Stubborn kid vs worlds former most stubborn kid

@shaggin (71664)
United States
October 28, 2020 4:19pm CST
My stepson is very stubborn. He takes medicine for ADHD. He also has Oppositional Defiance Disorder and without the medicine for the ADHD he is so defiant. When he takes his medicine for school days he is much more pleasant to be around. Virtual learning is not for him. He does the absolute minimal amount of work and doesn’t care if he fails. For weeks he sat at his house not doing any school work and his dad didn’t know. He was behind on 38 assignments. His father grounded him and sent him here daily to ensure he does his work. Well I noticed when checking his work that on khan academy he was just typing in anything failing the lessons and marking it as done. He needed to get 75% or greater per lesson so I told him he had to redo them. He refused and for maybe 4 days or more he has laid around not having tv or Xbox. Finally today he gave in and did the lessons. Worlds most stubborn former kid now mom wins this round. Photo is a neat building I saw recently in a cemetery while geocaching.
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@snowy22315 (169940)
• United States
28 Oct 20
He needs to learn to have some pride in his accomplishments, and to learn why it is important to do schoolwork. Maybe it seems unimportant to him, but it helps to make him a good citizen of the world, and somebody who knows what's going on.
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@shaggin (71664)
• United States
29 Oct 20
@snowy22315 he just doesn't care about anything. It is frustrating as a parent.
@shaggin (71664)
• United States
29 Oct 20
@snowy22315 those are the only things which is why he lost them when he wouldn’t do his work.
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@snowy22315 (169940)
• United States
29 Oct 20
@shaggin Not true..he cares about video games and TV apparently
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@LadyDuck (458006)
• Switzerland
29 Oct 20
Congratulations, you did a great job to teach to your stepson, I imagine that it has been hard.
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@shaggin (71664)
• United States
29 Oct 20
@LadyDuck thank you. It has been difficult. I will be very glad when he is able to go full days and get a better education. He just does not do well with this home school stuff.
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@shaggin (71664)
• United States
29 Oct 20
@LadyDuck I definitely agree. Hybrid is still going all through November. Not sure after that.
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@LadyDuck (458006)
• Switzerland
29 Oct 20
@shaggin I think he needs to go to a class to be more focused, home schooling is not for him.
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@kaylachan (57636)
• Daytona Beach, Florida
28 Oct 20
Kids like that need constant monitoring and encouragement to keep them on the right track so that they stay up-to-date with their studies. Just try to be patient with him, and look up ways to help him and encourage him so the work doesn't become this chore he wants done as quickly as possible.
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@shaggin (71664)
• United States
28 Oct 20
@kaylachan with this hybrid model they are doing the days he isn’t in school he only has about 4 hours worth of work to do if that. Yesterday was only 1 hour. If that doesn’t motivate him being able to get it done way faster then an 8 hour school day I don’t know what will
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@kaylachan (57636)
• Daytona Beach, Florida
29 Oct 20
For a kid with a normal brain, that would make a lot of sense. But with a kid with ADD/ADHD, getting them to focus on something for more than five minutes can be like pulling teeth.@shaggin
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@shaggin (71664)
• United States
29 Oct 20
@kaylachan that’s why he takes medicine and then he does good he just doesn’t want to have to do the work so he lies and says it’s done. I wasn’t medicated as a kid and teen and I feel like I learned nothing due to it. I couldn’t concentrate to learn anything. I’m glad he has medicine to take. When I first saw she didn’t do the 38 assignments he refused to do them and sat looking at the same screen for 3 hours before I said to just shut it off as it was wasting electricity to not do anything. He was just being stubborn. I think the ODD causes worse issues with him then the ADD.
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@Tina30219 (81540)
• Onaway, Michigan
28 Oct 20
Stubborn kid is right . I would have took more than tv and Xbox away for him doing this.
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@shaggin (71664)
• United States
28 Oct 20
@Tina30219 there wasn’t really anything else here to do to take away though
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@Tina30219 (81540)
• Onaway, Michigan
28 Oct 20
@shaggin That sucks.
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@sallypup (57858)
• Centralia, Washington
29 Oct 20
@shaggin Chores? He could get busy and wash windows for instance. Maybe he is sitting too much.
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@RebeccasFarm (86757)
• United States
10 Dec 20
This must be very hard on you Shanny. Sorry to hear it but you do your utmost best. You have more patience than me.
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@shaggin (71664)
• United States
11 Dec 20
@RebeccasFarm he’s been doing much better since then. He’s at his mothers now after his grandfather dying and I don’t imagine he will do much schoolwork while he is gone.
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@shaggin (71664)
• United States
11 Dec 20
@RebeccasFarm that’s very sweet. I have to try very hard sometimes to stay patient. My husband and my father are the most impatient people I’ve ever met in my life.
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• United States
11 Dec 20
@shaggin You amaze me with your patience.
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@just4him (306113)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
30 Oct 20
I'm glad you won and he's finally doing his lessons. Nice picture. I agree, it is a neat building.
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@shaggin (71664)
• United States
30 Oct 20
@just4him if I don’t keep after him his grades will keep dropping so I have to ignore what he tells me when he says he’s finished and look through his work to see if it’s done. Frustrating but luckily each day there isn’t much work to look through. He is still failing science class but the grade is coming up.
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@shaggin (71664)
• United States
30 Oct 20
@just4him his dad should have been checking from day 1 like I said to him but for some reason he trusted him and didn’t check for 3 weeks until he asked me to check it one day and we saw he was missing 38 assignments.
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@just4him (306113)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
30 Oct 20
@shaggin I'm glad the grade is coming up on science. It's good you're looking through it each day.
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@maximax8 (31053)
• United Kingdom
29 Oct 20
He needs to gain more self esteem. I think that it is best to catch him being good and reward him. I think he finds the school work challenging to do. I wish him a bright future.
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@maximax8 (31053)
• United Kingdom
30 Oct 20
@shaggin Yes, he finds the work boring. Adding up, taking away and the mother tongue language are useful for adult life. My son is disabled and he finds times tables challenging to remember.
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@shaggin (71664)
• United States
30 Oct 20
@maximax8 I never could learn my times tables past 2.
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@shaggin (71664)
• United States
30 Oct 20
@maximax8 he doesn't find it challenging he can do it and get good grades he just doesn't want to. He finds it boring and doesn't think he will ever need this stuff in real life someday.
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• United States
29 Oct 20
sounds's though he's been catered to quite a bit. glad ya stood firm, but such's not yer place.
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@shaggin (71664)
• United States
29 Oct 20
@crazyhorseladycx well he is my stepson and my husband doesn’t want him staying home during the day because he won’t do any work. If he is here with me with me as his guardian I am going to make sure he does what the teachers assign. If his father has a problem with it then he can let his son stay home and check his work at night when he gets home from work to see if it’s been done. I told him in September to do that but he never did instead when 3 weeks later he had me check his work I saw he had missed 38 assignments so this is the situation now with him coming here and me ensuring he does what he is supposed to.
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@shaggin (71664)
• United States
30 Oct 20
@crazyhorseladycx we got married September 5th and went on our honeymoon for a week. He said he needed to give the land lord a months notice and that 3 weeks to clean out or houses to combine them wasn’t enough time so he couldn’t leave until November 1st. Then he called like two weeks back for a dumpster and it couldn’t arrive until after November so now he’s paying for another month to rent it just because of that. He had stayed home while his father works since he was 11. He knows how his son is so I don’t why he trusted him to do things without an adult around during this corona virus hybrid learning crap.
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• United States
30 Oct 20
@shaggin i'm so confused 't this point. does yer husband've custody 'f this young'un? if'n so, where 'tis he been stayin' 'lone whilst he works? i thought y'all lived together since yer married? his father 'tis responsible 'n should not've let such slide fer so long. no wonder said young'un 'tis defiant... i wish ya the best 'f luck 'n don't back down'n inch.
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@rakski (112925)
• Philippines
28 Oct 20
Congratulations, you won!!! My son at times is very stubborn too. But I can still bribe him to do some things he hates. Last time we were videoing school works with his African mask on, at the Endo of the video he was crying already.
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@shaggin (71664)
• United States
29 Oct 20
@JWMILLER yes very
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@rakski (112925)
• Philippines
30 Oct 20
@JWMILLER oh so so true
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@JWMILLER (3280)
• Westmoreland, Tennessee
29 Oct 20
Children can be difficult at times.
@sallypup (57858)
• Centralia, Washington
29 Oct 20
Wow. Is that for just one family, that building? Almost big enough to be a chapel. Sounds like the kiddo could use some counseling.
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@shaggin (71664)
• United States
29 Oct 20
@sallypup based on the little concrete carving on the left of it I think it is just for one family. It sure is pretty and large yes. I would love to see what is behind the doors. He used to go to counseling when he lived with his other but I don't think he has done it in many years. He just doesn't care about anything and there's nothing we can say or do that changes his mind. His lying bugs me the worst I cannot stand lies.
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@shaggin (71664)
• United States
29 Oct 20
@sallypup he does care how he lies to people, he doesn't care if he goes days without showering, he doesn't care if he ruins his things or other people's things, he doesn't care about his grades or if his clothes are clean or if they are covered in stains or ripped.
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@sallypup (57858)
• Centralia, Washington
29 Oct 20
@shaggin He does not care about anything but he plays video games? Find out what is on those games cause he cares about them.
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@DianneN (246720)
• United States
29 Oct 20
Happy he gave in and began his work. Cool building!
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@shaggin (71664)
• United States
29 Oct 20
@DianneN me to boy is it frustrating dealing with his stubbornness. He wasted days he could have been playing video games just to be so stubborn.
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@shaggin (71664)
• United States
29 Oct 20
@JWMILLER I was also that kind of kid but I had no effective punishment. I got beat and would go right back to doing what I was doing or not doing etc. I needed to have things taken away from me like going to play with my friends and television etc. My parents weren't very good with discipline.
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@JWMILLER (3280)
• Westmoreland, Tennessee
29 Oct 20
@shaggin Sometimes people do things that are not in there best interest.
@cintol (11261)
• United States
1 Nov 20
I hear you on that, good job for getting him to do the work, sometimes you gotta be tough with them. We have two in this house with the same diagnosis of ADHD and ODD, they are definitely hard to deal with. We are hoping the youngest one will start on medication soon.
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@shaggin (71664)
• United States
1 Nov 20
@cintol he was god awful when he was younger and didn’t have medicine. He has grown much calmer now but the defiance is still bad without medicine and he can’t concentrate on his school work without it.
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@shaggin (71664)
• United States
1 Nov 20
@cintol right that’s good to know what to do and how to prepare
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@cintol (11261)
• United States
1 Nov 20
@shaggin I understand, my grand daughter was like that as well, she is on meds too and we know when she doesn't take them. Now we are going through it with the 6 yr old, her brother, that my daughter is adopting. At least we have a clue as to what to expect this time around.
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@FayeHazel (40248)
• United States
29 Oct 20
Wow. Good motivation though
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@shaggin (71664)
• United States
29 Oct 20
@FayeHazel you mean by losing the Xbox and television etc forcing him to have nothing to do should motivate him?
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@shaggin (71664)
• United States
30 Oct 20
@FayeHazel even losing them it took him about 4 days to give in he sure is stubborn.
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@FayeHazel (40248)
• United States
29 Oct 20
@shaggin Yes, if those are the things he really likes, then I think he'd be motivated to get use them back by doing the schoolwork
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@CarolDM (203454)
• Nashville, Tennessee
28 Oct 20
Cool building. Sounds like you have a job on your hands.
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@shaggin (71664)
• United States
28 Oct 20
@CarolDM yes very different then how my kids are with their schoolwork.
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@shaggin (71664)
• United States
29 Oct 20
@JWMILLER yes for sure.
@JWMILLER (3280)
• Westmoreland, Tennessee
29 Oct 20
@shaggin Success with distance learning seems to depend a lot on children's personalities.
@ricki_911 (21625)
• Toronto, Ontario
28 Oct 20
How old is he? I have ADHD and can be motivated with a routine. Sounds like he just needs someone to supervise him
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@shaggin (71664)
• United States
28 Oct 20
@ricki_911 he is 14. He made his own routine of sleeping playing video games and not doing school work lol. He lies and says everything is done then I check and see it’s not so he definitely needs supervision.?
• Midland, Michigan
29 Oct 20
I was going to ask if you were the former stubborn kids but finally got that sentence. Well good for you for the win that is.
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@shaggin (71664)
• United States
30 Oct 20
@MarshaMusselman I was wild and so stubborn .
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@Courtlynn (66921)
• United States
29 Oct 20
good, glad he's being punished for not doing his work. Alot of parents arent doing that and its a shame.
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@shaggin (71664)
• United States
29 Oct 20
@Courtlynn it's tough to deal with because my kids do all their work. I never have to check their work and make sure it's done they do it all on their own. It's very frustrating to me how bad my stepson lies.
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@Courtlynn (66921)
• United States
29 Oct 20
@shaggin its how he was raised unfortunately.
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@thelme55 (76476)
• Germany
28 Oct 20
I am glad he gave in and is working now on his school assignments.
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@shaggin (71664)
• United States
29 Oct 20
@thelme55 me too now I just have to check his assignments careful as he likes to say they are done when they aren't.
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@thelme55 (76476)
• Germany
29 Oct 20
@shaggin Yes, you have to check them.
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@Hannihar (129445)
• Israel
29 Oct 20
@shaggin I am glad that you got through to him in 4 days or more. Is he all caught of now?
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@shaggin (71664)
• United States
30 Oct 20
@Hannihar yep. He is still failing Science but hopefully now that he has his medicine and is doing his work his grade will improve. Last week it was a 22 this week it’s 50 so while failing it’s still improvement.
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@Hannihar (129445)
• Israel
30 Oct 20
@shaggin I hope the medicine will help his grades improve more and more.
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