Mad As A Hatter

@jaboUK (64361)

United Kingdom

March 14, 2021 5:40pm CST

You might think the phrase 'mad as a hatter' stems from Alice In Wonderland but I looked it up and it dates from 17th century French hat-makers. It seems they used mercury in the felt-making process and it gradually poisoned them. This caused them to act irrationally, and they also developed tremors, giving the impression that they were mad. I thought that was interesting enough to pass on to you.

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@Juliaacv (48447)

• Canada

14 Mar 21

That is interesting, and it makes good sense too doesn't it? Now I've got to log off and go and throw out all of my really old hats.

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@Juliaacv (48447)

• Canada

14 Mar 21

@jaboUK And I suspect that you are doing the same, we don't want to be accused of going mad do we?

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@jaboUK (64361)

• United Kingdom

14 Mar 21

@Juliaacv That wouldn't do at all!

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@jaboUK (64361)

• United Kingdom

14 Mar 21

Probably a wise thing to do

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@kaylachan (57698)

• Daytona Beach, Florida

15 Mar 21

Alice in Wonderland was one huge poem that just didn't make sense, and was never meant to. But, you can probably guess where the author got the idea from.

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@jaboUK (64361)

• United Kingdom

15 Mar 21

True.

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@rebelann (111189)

• El Paso, Texas

15 Mar 21

Oh wow, I never would have guessed that. Thank heavens people don't use mercury anymore, well, not like that anyway.

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@jaboUK (64361)

• United Kingdom

15 Mar 21

It's surprising that that's where the saying comes from, isn't it?

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@rebelann (111189)

• El Paso, Texas

15 Mar 21

Yes it is but then how many people today knows anything about hats and how they're made.

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@rakski (112925)

• Philippines

15 Mar 21

good thing I do not like wearing hats

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@jaboUK (64361)

• United Kingdom

15 Mar 21

Neither do I

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@rakski (112925)

• Philippines

15 Mar 21

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@MarshaMusselman (38659)

• Midland, Michigan

14 Mar 21

My hands shake mostly in the mornings but sometimes more. I don't know if that's similar to tenors or not but I hope no one thinks I'm mad, as in crazy mad.

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@jaboUK (64361)

• United Kingdom

15 Mar 21

What - you mad?? I don't think so Marsha (unless you've been swigging on the mercury

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@MarshaMusselman (38659)

• Midland, Michigan

15 Mar 21

@jaboUK other things can make one crazy but I think I'm fine for now.

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@JudyEv (325818)

• Rockingham, Australia

15 Mar 21

Thanks and that is interesting. I guess there were a few such occupations that had repercussions from chemicals.

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@jaboUK (64361)

• United Kingdom

15 Mar 21

Yes, people dealing with asbestos paid the price later on in life but the danger wasn't known at the time.

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@JudyEv (325818)

• Rockingham, Australia

15 Mar 21

@jaboUK They are renovating a bank in town and have found asbestos. It's certainly bad news as a disease.

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@AmbiePam (85520)

• United States

14 Mar 21

I had no idea. That IS interesting.

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@jaboUK (64361)

• United Kingdom

14 Mar 21

Thanks, I'm pleased that you found it interesting. I like finding out these little snippets of information.

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@allknowing (130064)

• India

14 Mar 21

These idioms and phrases do date back to ancient times. I am not surprised. Thanks for that.

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@jaboUK (64361)

• United Kingdom

15 Mar 21

Some sayings do have origins that it would be impossible to guess at.

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@Tampa_girl7 (48997)

• United States

14 Mar 21

You have taught me something new. Thanks

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@jaboUK (64361)

• United Kingdom

14 Mar 21

My pleasure Marie

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@Tampa_girl7 (48997)

• United States

15 Mar 21

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@TheHorse (205789)

• Walnut Creek, California

15 Mar 21

Were the effects irreversible?

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@jaboUK (64361)

• United Kingdom

15 Mar 21

Probably they were in those days, but I'm not sure. My research didn't throw up the answer to that.

@sol_cee (38223)

• Philippines

15 Mar 21

Interesting! I always think of Alice in Wonderland when I hear that expression

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@jaboUK (64361)

• United Kingdom

15 Mar 21

It's the natural thing to do.

@Dena91 (15860)

• United States

14 Mar 21

I have read about that before. It is interesting how the phrase came to be.

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@jaboUK (64361)

• United Kingdom

15 Mar 21

It was new to me, but interesting to know.

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@spiderdust (14741)

• San Jose, California

15 Mar 21

I've heard about that! I have an annotated copy of Alice in Wonderland, and it mentions that the phrase "mad as a March hare" comes from the strange behavior that people observed in hares during their breeding season, the peak of it being in March.

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@jaboUK (64361)

• United Kingdom

15 Mar 21

I've heard of the March hare one too, and have in fact seen hares 'boxing' each other in the fields.

@CarolDM (203452)

• Nashville, Tennessee

14 Mar 21

Oh my, I never knew this. You always have knowledge to share.

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@jaboUK (64361)

• United Kingdom

14 Mar 21

I doo like to look up the origins of phrases, some are quite surprising.

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@CarolDM (203452)

• Nashville, Tennessee

14 Mar 21

@jaboUK I do as well. I also enjoy the backstories of songs.

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@LadyDuck (458233)

• Switzerland

15 Mar 21

I knew that the mercury used by hat makers caused them to act irrationally, thus the character in Alice in Wonderland. I never heard in French "aussi fou qu'un chapelier" (as mad as a hatter).

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@LadyDuck (458233)

• Switzerland

15 Mar 21

@jaboUK I think so, mercury was used in England by hatters since 1750, so I believe that the "Mad-Hatter Disease" was well known when Mr Dodgson wrote Alice's Adventures in Wonderland in 1865.

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@jaboUK (64361)

• United Kingdom

15 Mar 21

Do you think that Mr Dodgson knew that when he wrote Alice?

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@DianneN (246899)

• United States

14 Mar 21

That is interesting and makes sense unlike my car emissions testing.

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@jaboUK (64361)

• United Kingdom

14 Mar 21

Yes it does make sense. Did you reply to me on your post about the emissions? Must go and have a look.

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@just4him (306354)

• Green Bay, Wisconsin

15 Mar 21

That's very interesting. Thanks for sharing.

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@jaboUK (64361)

• United Kingdom

15 Mar 21

It's good that you thought it interesting, thank you.

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@jaboUK (64361)

• United Kingdom

17 Mar 21

@just4him So do I.

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@just4him (306354)

• Green Bay, Wisconsin

16 Mar 21

@jaboUK I enjoy learning about phrases I've heard all my life.

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@nela13 (55700)

• Portugal

20 Mar 21

I like hats but I don't use it often.

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@jaboUK (64361)

• United Kingdom

20 Mar 21

I never wear one myself.

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@jaboUK (64361)

• United Kingdom

21 Mar 21

@nela13 No, but I have a hooded jacket for the winter.

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@nela13 (55700)

• Portugal

21 Mar 21

@jaboUK Really?! Not even during winter or under the sun?

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@Rashnag (30598)

• Surat, India

15 Mar 21

That is interesting. Thanks for sharing. Take care

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@jaboUK (64361)

• United Kingdom

15 Mar 21

I'm happy that you found it interesting, thank you.

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@Rashnag (30598)

• Surat, India

15 Mar 21

@jaboUK your welcome dear

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@lazydaizee (6738)

• United Kingdom

15 Mar 21

Thanks for the information. Has mercury been banned now? I know that it was used to make barometers in the past and that is why you should not lay a barometer down in case the mercury leaks. I also think it was used in the making of mirrors.

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@jaboUK (64361)

• United Kingdom

15 Mar 21

@lazydaizee That I don't know - surely either of them would be poisonous in the mouth?

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@jaboUK (64361)

• United Kingdom

15 Mar 21

I think mercury has been phased out in the making of batteries and barometers but I'm not sure what else it's used for.

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@lazydaizee (6738)

• United Kingdom

15 Mar 21

@jaboUK Was it also used for fillings at the dentist, or was that lead?

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