Can anybody explain this conundrum?

@indexer (4852)
Leicester, England
July 21, 2021 5:11am CST
As a keen observer of the American political scene - from across the Pond - I am struck by what seems to be a strange contradiction from the Trump camp. On the one hand, the former President, as part of his campaign to convince America that he was the best President of all time, is keen to take credit for the development of the Pfizer Covid vaccine - this would not have happened without him, according to Donald. He is therefore the miracle-working saviour of his nation! Yet, on the other hand, commentators on the far right, who all claim to be fervent supporters of Donald Trump - even to the extent of believing all his nonsense about having been cheated rather than voted out of office - are telling everyone that they should exercise their right NOT to be vaccinated! How can you have it both ways? How can you be fervent supporters of the best President since Washington and yet refuse to take advantage of one on the most important miracles for which their new Messiah was solely responsible and takes all the credit? I don't see how it all adds up!
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21 Jul 21
Thanks to him for speeding up the CCP covid19 vaccine. But thanks also for allowing Americans to allow themselves the freedom and their RIGHT NOT to get the jab. Compared to the Biden door-to-door get-vaccinated covid19 vaccine campaign. That's a bit tyrannical, don't you think?
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@topffer (42156)
• France
21 Jul 21
@indexer The French Declaration of Human Rights was saying in 1789, "The freedom of some ends where starts the freedom of others." I think it was inspired by John Stuart Mill. You can justify many things with this, including global vaccination and prohibiting the use of phones when driving, but not your seat belt example, as one endangers only himself when he does not wear a seat belt. The seat belt was imposed in many laws under the lobbying of insurance companies.
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21 Jul 21
@indexer If these jabbed people (because they believe to be 'most vulnerable' and got the shots) and trust the covid19 vaccine so much, why are they so afraid to get infected again if they had been vaccinated or 'protected'? And even though they are vaccinated, why are they STILL.so afraid that the 'protected' glorified covid19 vaccinated will infect the unvaccinated?
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21 Jul 21
@topffer Mandatory vaccination is unconstitutional.
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@NJChicaa (115913)
• United States
21 Jul 21
It doesn't add up. Trump's people aren't so smart.
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@mythociate (21437)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
21 Jul 21
It STARTS with that whole 'Trinity' thing---One Creator, but Three Persons, All the Same Level of Power, but 3 ... get `em all confused like that, and they'll go along with whatever's "good" at the moment
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@mythociate (21437)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
22 Jul 21
@TheHorse Agreed. They both just parrot after their leaders.
@TheHorse (205214)
• Walnut Creek, California
21 Jul 21
But, as I've mentioned, I did some internet research of the average intelligence of Democrats and Republicans. They are essentially the same.
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@LadyDuck (457342)
• Switzerland
22 Jul 21
I thought to this, they consider Trump like a God, HE considers that he made the most important miracle offering the vaccine, in the beginning "to Americans only" and they do not want to profit of this miracle. Weird!
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@xFiacre (12612)
• Ireland
21 Jul 21
@indexer they will tell you it was only the votes that didn’t add up!!
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@TheHorse (205214)
• Walnut Creek, California
21 Jul 21
Incredible, they're still trying. I got a SPAM email from Trump this morning, still claiming that the GA election results were rigged. He's still begging for money.
@Fleura (29096)
• United Kingdom
21 Jul 21
You expect these people to be logical??
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@TheHorse (205214)
• Walnut Creek, California
21 Jul 21
I do not.
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@porwest (78761)
• United States
21 Jul 21
The difference is that the right is comprised of critical thinkers. I appreciate the fact that Donald Trump's policy allowed for the fast tracking of the vaccine. Something had to be done to steel the nerves of a clearly corruptly panicked public, and that was the thing to do it. The opposition to the vaccine for some is more about the fact that it WAS fast tracked, and is therefore not really fully vetted and tested. I am not an anti-vaxxer, for example. But I trust vaccines more that went through the full process. A vaccine takes about 3-5 years to be fully vetted and tested. This one took 3-5 months. The question becomes what problem or problems does the vaccine CREATE as opposed to what problem it solves?
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@indexer (4852)
• Leicester, England
21 Jul 21
The point is that vaccination cuts the prevalence and spread of the disease, even if there is not a 100% guarantee that any one person will not either suffer from it or pass it on. There is also the undoubted fact that vaccination reduces the severity of any subsequent infection, thus meaning that sufferers make far fewer demands on the health service, which can therefore make inroads into the backlog of other work - cancer treatment for example - that is causing many problems at present.
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@TheHorse (205214)
• Walnut Creek, California
21 Jul 21
What side effects did you experience?
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@TheHorse (205214)
• Walnut Creek, California
21 Jul 21
@indexer Very true.
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@TheHorse (205214)
• Walnut Creek, California
21 Jul 21
It does not.
@S4mmyboy (3266)
• Mumbai, India
24 Jul 21
Well I simply don't know who is right. The Republicans or the Democrats. All I can see is that Mr Trump has equal support as much as his haters