You can do anything with statistics

@JudyEv (382104)
Rockingham, Australia
February 3, 2022 4:33pm CST
The photo has nothing to do with the post. I usually avoid buying into anything about COVID-19 but with so much misinformation going around over here, I thought I’d put forward a few points. Within a certain period in New South Wales, Australia, 215 double-vaccinated people were admitted to intensive care, compared with 55 unvaccinated people. You might be recoiling in horror and think that vaccinations are failing the community. However, if you convert these figures to percentages, 0.1% of double-vaccinated were in intensive care compared to 1.5% of unvaccinated cases. This changes the scenario somewhat. It means a 1 in 1,000 chance of being admitted to intensive care if you're double vaccinated, versus a 15 in 1,000 chance if you're unvaccinated. In Queensland, the unvaccinated make up only 8% of the population but 20 to 30% of COVID-19 deaths. I don’t want to get into any debates one way or the other but please, think about what you are being told. Don’t just grab some figures and run with them.
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@wolfgirl569 (135784)
• Marion, Ohio
4 Feb 22
They like to give us the numbers tat make it seem worse here too it seems
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@kareng (80243)
• United States
4 Feb 22
Yes, they do!
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@kareng (80243)
• United States
5 Feb 22
@JudyEv I totally agree with you.
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@JudyEv (382104)
• Rockingham, Australia
4 Feb 22
It's very wrong of people to do this. Very misleading.
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@kaylachan (84810)
• Daytona Beach, Florida
3 Feb 22
I have to admit, since this is constantly evolving, It's hard to know what numbers are accurate and what are not. All I'll say, which is what I've always said, it's your life. You need to chose how to live your best life possible. No one can do it for you.
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@kaylachan (84810)
• Daytona Beach, Florida
4 Feb 22
@JudyEv Yep. I love how the internet makes the world so much smaller, but anyone can post anything. I take everything I hear with a grain of salt. I know what risks I'm taking by doing so, and that's my right and my choice.
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@JudyEv (382104)
• Rockingham, Australia
4 Feb 22
Yes, I agree completely. It's hard to know when you are being fed the correct information or when you are not.
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@rebelann (117238)
• El Paso, Texas
4 Feb 22
You're so right. I personally don't do flu shots and have no interest in getting the covid shot which works for me.
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@JudyEv (382104)
• Rockingham, Australia
4 Feb 22
Fair enough. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
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@RebeccasFarm (91297)
• United States
4 Feb 22
Yes you are right..statistics often mean diddly to me.
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• United States
4 Feb 22
@JudyEv And they do
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@JudyEv (382104)
• Rockingham, Australia
4 Feb 22
You can make them say just about anything.
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@DWDavis (25797)
• United States
3 Feb 22
Your post brings to mind the quote often attributed to Mark Twain. "There are lies, there are dam* lies, and then there are statistics."
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@JudyEv (382104)
• Rockingham, Australia
4 Feb 22
I think Mark Twain had it all figured out.
@LadyDuck (502491)
• Italy
4 Feb 22
You can play with the numbers as much as you like and make people believe what you prefer they believe. Misleading news are popular in Covid era.
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@LadyDuck (502491)
• Italy
4 Feb 22
@JudyEv I think we do not have correct numbers right now, as not all cases are reported. Also about reactions to the vaccine, only the more serious ones are reported.
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@JudyEv (382104)
• Rockingham, Australia
4 Feb 22
Vince came across another example tonight. Five children had quite bad reactions and someone was ranting and raving about it. But, if you go back to the article, they are five out of 650,7000 children so, while it is sad, the numbers are negligible really.
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@kareng (80243)
• United States
4 Feb 22
Good point!
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@kareng (80243)
• United States
5 Feb 22
@JudyEv Also in the media these days. It's a crying shame really!
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@JudyEv (382104)
• Rockingham, Australia
4 Feb 22
People are quite underhand sometimes about what they post.
@JudyEv (382104)
• Rockingham, Australia
5 Feb 22
@kareng The media should be unbiased and give true facts but they don't always.
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@xFiacre (14789)
• Ireland
9 Jun 22
@judyev I never did get the hang of statistics. All I know is that I’ve not got covid. Or Monkeypox.
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@JudyEv (382104)
• Rockingham, Australia
10 Jun 22
I haven't much about monkeypox here but I know we have a few cases in the eastern states at least. There is something to be said for being somewhat isolated from the rest of the country.
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@LindaOHio (222417)
• United States
4 Feb 22
We have had two shots and one booster. Interesting statistics. I still think you have a better chance of staying out of the ER and Intensive Care if you are vaccinated. Beautiful picture.
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@JudyEv (382104)
• Rockingham, Australia
4 Feb 22
I agree with you completely. We've had our two shots and our booster now too.
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• Northampton, England
4 Feb 22
Its bit narrower on age groups , like the retired. If you are at risk Omicron could still pick of the straglers
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@JudyEv (382104)
• Rockingham, Australia
5 Feb 22
Yes, that's true. And any new variants will create their own statistics.
@JudyEv (382104)
• Rockingham, Australia
6 Feb 22
@thedevilinme I'm starting to wonder if at some stage it will have an (visible) impact on the world's population.
• Northampton, England
5 Feb 22
@JudyEv in the at risk groups it 35% vaxxed on ICU wards in the UK
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@CarolDM (203396)
• Nashville, Tennessee
4 Feb 22
I have never believed the numbers they tell us in the US. So many reasons why. Just stay safe Judy.
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@JudyEv (382104)
• Rockingham, Australia
5 Feb 22
Thanks. We'll be doing our best as I'm sure you are too.
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@CarolDM (203396)
• Nashville, Tennessee
5 Feb 22
@JudyEv Yes all is well now thank goodness.
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• Belews Creek, North Carolina
3 Feb 22
Misleading use of information is pretty popular these days.
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@JudyEv (382104)
• Rockingham, Australia
4 Feb 22
It certainly seems to be. As I said to Anna: Vince came across another example tonight. Five children had quite bad reactions and someone was ranting and raving about it. But, if you go back to the article, they are five out of 650,7000 children so, while it is sad, the numbers are negligible really.
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@Faster16 (3248)
• Indonesia
4 Feb 22
numbers are everything, therefore if anyone manipulates numbers oh it's too much
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@JudyEv (382104)
• Rockingham, Australia
5 Feb 22
It's hard to know what's correct and what isn't nowadays.
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@Faster16 (3248)
• Indonesia
10 Feb 22
@JudyEv you are absolutely right
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