The Future of Money

@porwest (112802)
United States
September 24, 2024 9:05am CST
One of the ways I go about my financial pursuits is of course through saving and investing. The key here is how I think about my money in terms of its real value. Is $1 worth a dollar? That seems like an odd question to ask, right? I mean, sure it is if you only see money one way. As something to spend. When I think of a dollar, I think of it in terms of its potential future value, as opposed to its face value. And that helps me to better determine what to do with it. For example, I know that I can easily earn at least 6% on any dollar saved and invested. The real number is much higher, but 6% is just a good go-to number I know at minimum, my money will generate. Essentially, $1 spent, in my mind, has no real value. It's worth $0 after I spend it. But if I save it, it is worth at least $1.06. I might ask myself a simple question. "If I spend $100 a week on groceries, how much money do I need to save so that eventually, my groceries are forever paid for, and I never have to earn more money from a paycheck to buy them?" The answer, of course, is about $87,000 because at 6% that will generate $5,220 a year in dividends and interest. The point is not really to actually have my investments pay for my groceries. And getting to that saved amount can be tough. The point is to understand how I can make the value of my money greater than its face value, and how I can better use it to my advantage? The term I like to use is income replacement. The ultimate goal is to eventually replace my paycheck. You ask a simple question. "How much do I need to meet my needs in a year?" If that answer is $40,000, then my savings goal should be about $670,000 since that will generate $40,200 a year at 6%. Thinking about the future value of money as opposed to its face value helps us put the real value of money into better perspective. "I want to spend $50 on this thing I want or need, how much can I save so that the $50 I want to spend covers itself?" The answer is $835 because at 6%, that amount will generate $50.10. When it comes to having or wanting more money, sure, I can think about selling things like arts or crafts, or getting a second job, or doing surveys and gaming or whatever other thing. And I can still do all those things, and actually should do them. But I'd rather those second and third and fourth and whatever additional incomes be gravy. Not necessity just to meet my needs. When I can save my money in a way that it now works for me, I no longer have to work for it.
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@lovebuglena (52167)
• Staten Island, New York
24 Sep 24
You lost me on the math part. But I think we should all find ways for our existing money to make us even more money. And that means no money under the mattress, aside from maybe a little spending money. These days you can't rely only on your paycheck especially once you retire. My mom has worked in the same (brokerage) company since the mid-90s. She has a really good salary, however, when she retires what she will get monthly from her company is a joke. And she will have to pay for health insurance. Her friend and his wife on the other hand both worked for the city. Now that they are retired, they have free health insurance and their pension is really good.
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@porwest (112802)
• United States
27 Sep 24
Ultimately, no one should ever rely on pensions or Social Security to pay their way through retirement. Everyone should ensure their own futures and create their own money and reverse the odds stacked against them with intentional purpose. If they don't do that, they will suffer the consequences and really have no one to blame but themselves.
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@moffittjc (128831)
• Gainesville, Florida
28 Sep 24
@porwest Many of my fellow government workers are relying on their pensions to fund their retirement. I will also be collecting a lifelong pension, but I didn't want to depend on that entirely, so I invested heavily in retirement accounts, as well as my savings and investment accounts. And when calculating my future income needs, I didn't factor social security at all into the equation. But in the end, the income I generate from my investments, retirement accounts, pension and social security will be about double what my take home pay has been during most of my working years. And that's not too shabby of a way to enjoy retirement!
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@lovebuglena (52167)
• Staten Island, New York
27 Sep 24
@porwest it seems you can’t solely rely on pension and social security after retiring. Some don’t get any pension at all from their jobs when they retire. But what other options are there aside from a part time job? Not everyone can afford to invest money in stocks and such. And if you live off of your savings they will quickly vanish.
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@moffittjc (128831)
• Gainesville, Florida
28 Sep 24
That's a really great perspective on money, and it's current versus future value.
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@porwest (112802)
• United States
28 Sep 24
I try my best to help people see what money is really worth, and how much MORE money they would have, even if they wanted to spend the proceeds, if they saved it. Too many people have this idea that if they save money, it just goes away. Even to say to someone, if you take all of your myLot money and put it into a high yield savings account, it will yield $2.40, which doesn't seem like much, but it's 15 day's worth of myLot payouts they don't have to "work" for. Put away $500 and you can use the $20 a year it generates to do whatever you want with. Save $5000 and you can use the $200 a year for whatever you want. Money simply makes money. I will probably never get through. But it won't stop me from trying. lol Granted, now that the Fed has lowered rates these yields will become less. But the point still stands true nonetheless, and of course stock market returns make these yields much higher, but I am more cautious to recommend laymen entering that area without also making sure to guide them to some good learning tools.
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@moffittjc (128831)
• Gainesville, Florida
28 Sep 24
@porwest I think the message of saving and investing will probably need to be kept on the most simplistic terms for the majority of readers here and on other sites you discuss money. It's probably best to keep it simple for most people. I think the hardest part in this whole thing is not that your readers don't understand or agree with you on saving, investing and making money, it's overcoming inertia and getting started. I think that's where most people falter.
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@porwest (112802)
• United States
3 Oct 24
@moffittjc Starting is the hardest part, of course. But so is knowing and understanding that it actually makes a difference is also hard for a lot of people. Too many people are caught up in this false notion that the system is rigged against them and no matter what they do it won't matter, therefore they simply give in to that idea and don't bother to even try or understand it. It's sort of like a man of few words. It's not that he's necessarily dumb. He just never pulls out a dictionary to expand his vocabulary.
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@LindaOHio (222285)
• United States
25 Sep 24
We are bleeding money; so this scenario doesn't work for us! lol Have a good day.
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@porwest (112802)
• United States
26 Sep 24
Bleeding money is often a good reason to find ways to generate more. But obviously I am not encouraging you to do that. You need to have your money secure at this stage.
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@dgobucks226 (37621)
28 Sep 24
You lost me a bit, but I did pick up on the grocery prices. Of course, you know if Harris gets in, you may have to recalculate your figures as the costs will rise again. Sorry to throw politics into it. Potential socialism is a scary thought to me! Captain Kirk had an interesting view of money.
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• India
24 Sep 24
Loved the presentation of the Future of Money. I would also add inflation into that equation . We should save and invest money. And the returns percentage should be greater than inflation rate. I would also go with stocks or mutual funds or real estate which would potential give me good returns compared to the risks involved. I also agree we should work on whatever possible and get the money to either help in cutting down our expenses or growing our savings. I too work on surveys . The redemption of those points including ones from bing helps me to goodies for home.
@porwest (112802)
• United States
24 Sep 24
That is one of the BIGGEST parts people miss. The cost of inflation and how it impacts what we actually earn on our savings and investments. In order to make money, we must make money faster than the cost of things go up. Seems like a no-brainer, and yet, MANY people fail to understand this. If I desire to make 5% on my money and inflation is 3%, I need to actually earn 8% in order to achieve my 5% goal. I also agree that stocks and real estate present the biggest opportunities to accumulate wealth and grow our money. I advocate those things all the time. I think what is important, as well, of course, is to fully understand the markets and how they work, and how they can not only maximize their returns, but mitigate risk and even cancel out certain losses. For example, if a stock is going down but you still think the stock has a strong potential future upside, you can sell shares short and employ options strategies to obtain more shares at more desirable prices or sell options to gain premiums. As for any money I earn online, I do not spend any of it. It all gets added to savings and investments, and in that way the money I make from these things today will continue to make me more money tomorrow. If I simply spend what I earn online it is worthless. If I save and invest it, it becomes quite valuable. At some point it even accumulates to an amount that offers a nice side income that CAN be spent. I have done this this way for so long that currently the dividends and interest earned on prior online earnings now surpasses what I earn in new money each month. That never would have happened if I'd simply spent the money.
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