I just can't sleep

I just don't force myself at all. I would usually just watch tv or read a book until sleep catches up on me.

When I can't stop my mind from working and keeping me awake, I lay down, close my eyes and think of the color black. With nothing to keep me awake, I soon fall asleep. Every time something comes into your mind, just think of the color black. Eventually your mind gets tired of fighting and you'll fall asleep. I had to do that a lot of the time when I was working and something upset me.

I have never had any trouble sleeping. Do something and when you feel tired go to sleep.

Force to close my eyes and put my phone away

I am in the same boat . Fell asleep around 5am and woke up at 11am . I feel whenever I take a nap during the daytime it becomes really hard for me to fall asleep at night

I'm the same way honestly, once I'm up past a certain hour my brain just refuses to shut off. Putting the phone and tv away for a bit and just laying in the dark sometimes tricks my body into it. Hope you get some rest soon, being wired at 4am is rough.

I have a weird sleep cycle. I am also a night person. If I stay up too late I try to just stay up. Then try to not be too strenuous during the rest of the day and go to bed early.

I have been sleeping pretty well lately Maybe this can help

Do you feel tired in the end? I go through phases when I have trouble sleeping and after a few days of that I'm exhausted! Last night I slept from 11:30 until 6am and that was pretty good although I'm still tired. The night before I slept from 11:30 until about 2am, then I just woke up for no apparent reason and could not get back to sleep, so after a while of lying around getting annoyed I got my laptop, sat up and did some work until 4:30 am. Then I felt sleepy so I did sleep soon after that and all too soon it was 6:45 and time to get up.

I guess none of what I've said so far has really answered your question though. What happens if you actually go to bed at a 'normal' time?

Vince went to a course on sleeping once. One of the things they said was that if you're lying down relaxed that is nearly as good as sleeping. The more you worry about not sleeping the harder it is to go to sleep.

I am more sleepy in the afternoon after lunch. I knock off by 2 am even if I am not sleepy. Thankfully, I am soon asleep. When I was working, I had something going in my mind but now I keep it blank. Worrying leads to more worries. I know you don't have to worry much.

Maybe you could try walking and yoga. It is said that they help with sleep. I've heard that drinking chamomile tea can also help too. I have no problems going to sleep. Sometimes I go to sleep and don't even know I am sleep.

Only naughty girls are up at 4am

I’ve been up since 2:40am, and at 4:40am, I’m still awake. I was hoping to go back to sleep, but I’m not sure if I can. I’ll certainly try, but I have another doctor’s appointment this morning so at least I’ll be ready for that. Sometimes reading helps me sleep, or I pray, and fall asleep doing that. Hopefully, you caught a few Zzzs.

I don't have trouble falling asleep when I go to bed but then I often wake in the early hours and can't sleep again. I try all the usual things - go to the loo in case that's keeping me awake, sometimes have a glass of milk or a banana because both contain nutrients that can help promote sleep. Sometimes I'm too hot, even though I don't feel really hot but just a bit warm, and I find that if I get up and walk about a bit until I've cooled down then get back into bed, what was uncomfortably warm before now just feels cosy and I go back to sleep...