The Virgin Mary: a raped girl or a Mother Godess?

Personally I never really gave it much thought about Mary. I don't pray to her because she isn't the one that stated she was the way to God. I find it strange those that do, it's a real head scratcher to me. Is it related to pagan beliefs, oh yes, but so many other Christians things are as well, it's not the first by far.

Ok, the Catholic church looks at Mary more higher than the Christian church. In the Christian church Mary is looked at as the mother of Jesus. We worship God. NOT Mary. For Jesus to die for our sins he had to come to earth and be born and God chose her. Mary was NOT a product of rape. She was a virgin until she was with Joseph.

Not only in Christian religion Virgin Mary became mother by spiritual blessings of God, in Islam or Muslim religion too virgin Mary became mother by spiritual blessings of God. In Islamic religion Jesus is known as Hazrat Issa (Alaihe Assalam)and Allah or God ordered to believe Issa (A) as a prophet who got the devine book. So there is no confusion about Virgin Mary was holy and became mother by wish of God as God shown whole human that He is supreme power and can give bring baby in this world without father. He is sole and alone for worship.

i beleive in the words of the bible that mary was a virgin until the birth of Jesus!however I also believe we are not to pray to her for there is only one way to accecss God and that is through his son Jn.14:6 Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. ((No one))) comes to the Father except through me. ) note it says no one not even his mother nor the saints so to pray to them is futile!

Like just about anything having to do with religion, there is a lot of literature as well as speculation about Mary. As you say, most Christians believe she is the mother of God in Jesus. The idea of her young age (in her teens) comes from the history of the times, because most Jewish girls were betrothed at that age. I don't believe she should be worshiped as a goddess, but certainly revered for her role in history. I think God used her to help elevate the idea of women at a time when culture put them as second-class citizens. The worship of Mary as a goddess is probably related to pagan worship. What I find fascinating are the many stories about miracles connected with her statues and with her appearances to individual people, like at Fatima and Lourdes, just to mention two.

The concept of Mary the Queen of Heaven, or the mother of God didn't appear untill after Constantine. And in fact many of the titles and atributes go way back before Christianity, many other cizilisation had mother goddes, mothers of god and even the title of Queen of Heaven. I find it interesting that the first centry writers are totaly silent on this as well as the Appostals. You would think that Paul the most prolific writer would have addressed the position of Mary. So in their silance I can only come to the conclusion that she had no exalted position, Only that of given birth to the Christ. And the fact of her being a vergin whether it ment she was a young woman between the ages of 12-14 or was a literal vergin, Why could she had not been both? People must realy free their minds abit. A vergin haveing a baby is very easy to do. How? Atrifisial insemination is always a possibility. Go back and read the story again. It helps to understan a few of the hebrew sayings, It says the sprit of the Lord "overshadowed her" Overshadowing was a term of copulation. Where the Man would lift his robe and from behind the woman cover her with his garment. Now if this would have been phisical then she could not have been a vergin, so this had to be metphoricly speaking, the angel telling her that some how the seed of the Lord would enter into her. This could not be done "spirituly" if had to be a phisical seed, as a child could not have been made with a spirtual seed. What is flesh is flesh and sprit is spirit. So the only way the seed could enter her phisicly without the act of procreation would be artificial encimination. Now the fact she was chosen was a great honor, but did not make her the mother of God, indeed she was the mother of Jesus, but God or The LORD was his father so how could she also be the mother of the father? She was also the espossed (ingaged) to Joseph, So she was not even the wife of God or the LORD, therefor she can not be Queen or Goddess, She could have no possition at all in the higharchy of heaven only the Phisical moter of Jesus on earth. Now it is writen or hypophisised that Jesus was the result of a rape of his mother by a roman soilder, although again even if this did happen there is no evedence of this. Even though judia was occupied at this time by romans, one charge against a soilder for the crime of rape still would have had strong consiquences aginst that solder. Much myth has been made around Mary, even when faced with historical writings of the bible, And other writings, some still have trouble letting go of the myth of Mary,

The only time I have sw anything in the image of the virgin mary has been in Catholic churches and Catholic beleiveing countrys. There are also scientis beleive it was artifical insemination

Missak,I truly wonder if you are really 22. If you are, my dear, you are most certainly an old soul. The thing that I most love about you is your tenacity. You post the most thought-provoking posts, you don't espouse a right or wrong answer, you state some what appear to be well researched facts; and then you sit back and take HOLY crap from so many people just for asking for their opinion. This is but yet another in your series of questions that I doubt any one person is able to answer Factually. There may be those who can answer it according to the belief system of their Chosen Path; and for them, it is their Fact; but that doesn't proclaim it a Universal Fact. Whatever role Mary, The Virgin Mary, Mother Mary has in your personal life, it IS the true one for you. Although I am pagan, I adore statues of all Mary's and their babes and have since childhood. Just because I was drawn to them didn't make me Catholic, it just made me drawn to a beautiful, mystical woman, that I somehow felt could be called upon to help with healing. Even today as a Reiki practitioner, I still find myself silently calling out to Mary from time to time when I have been working on someone during a particularly difficult emotional session. I envy you, young sister. I only wish that I had been burdened with seeking the type of knowledge you have at your age. I believe that you are one day going to come to some astounding conclusions.~Donna

I was once a Catholic and a faithful to the doctrines of the Trinity, Mary and other unique Catholic symbolisms. When i was in high school, while studying in a Catholic school, I began to be subscribing to different free magazines and literatures of other Christian faith, and that was where i realized that the Catholic Church, while claiming to be the true church, is never following the teachings and doctrines of Jesus Christ as could be perused in the Bible. The idea of Mary being the mother of God and the mother of us all is one of the greatest satanic deception ever devised. Now, don't get me wrong on this. I always respect other faiths and religious inclination. I thoroughly believe in religious tolerance. I believe in freedom. This is my own personal conviction. And you all have the right to believe whatever you want to believe.

well back then any woman was considered a virgin right up until the birth of her first child. and there's certainly a lot of Mother Goddess parallels, but not surprising, as Jesus Christ is one of many dying and resurrecting Sun Gods. there's more I've come across, mostly associated with Sea Goddesses, who often have names that resemble Mary. (from the same root as Marine, I expect)

I just know one thing...A fact has one explanation.. So many explaination just to prove mary was virgin so many explanation too prove she was goddess!!! Isnt it strange? When You lie and somebody asks you question U lie again to cover it up...third question,again one lie to cover it up..lies goes on compounding...there is no reality only lies and the result is so many lies just to cover up the first lie.... However, if its a fact u have just one explanation!!! I belive in this simple funda.....

I don't think that Mary was raped because she was willing to carry baby Jesus. And raped is when one is not willing to do others bidding. I never pray to Virgin Mary tho I'm a christian not Catholic but I don't have anything against Catholics. I believe God chose Mary so she could fulfilled the words of God that Jesus will be born from the line of King David. And some says Joseph was the descendant of King David. But it turns out that Mary also the descendant of King David. I saw a movie called 'Mysts of Avalon' where the earth mother statue was worshipped and finally no longer believed by the people and the people worshipped another female statue which was Virgin Mary. Generally it's a very good movie. One of my favourites but I doubt if Virgin Mary is the same as Earth Mother tho in early years of Catholics adapted many of the pagan beliefs into the church.

If you believe it, then its your truth! In reality, the whole story is Myth, Never happened! There no true History in the bible, Absolutely Nothing, has been proven be Historical truth. If you feel protected by any of this Myth, thats Great. God Bless you!

I think it is easier to belief that she was abducted by aliens and when she came backto earth she became pregnant and thus the powers that jesus has. Besides they saw a light from the heavens and heard angels singing (aliens tokin in esp) and flyin discs and all. Just that people didnt have the notion of aliens or what not back then and decided to label jesus as God instead. Ok...here is the disclaimer. This is not what I personally believe. But throws a new angle to the line of thought doesnt it? :p

Read the bible..ok? Also ..if someone insulted your mother or made little of her; how would your father feel? Think carefully what intention you had in placing such a topic and remember one day who you will have to stand before.

i guess we have two storys here , the lie or the historical reality. The lie is that the young child Mary was impregnated by the holy spirit, mmmmmm the reality is that she was raped, possibly by a Roman centurian , glutimus maximus, biggus dickus? who knows? blessed be

I have always thought of Mary as the first Christian because she had to believe she was carrying The Messiah.I don't think she was raped.I can see Mary being a spiritual mother of Christians. She is the mother of Jesus. Didn't Jesus consider mankind his brother?It fits.I think it is great that there were and are Christians that worship her.

do you have bible man read it. It says in the bible & I believe it too that Mary become pregnant through the work of Holy Spirit.This is because man cannot attain heaven unless he satisfy the requirements of the Law of God.So God came in the form of a man, to save him from his sins.It is nothing wrong in this case.Unless Mary is not virgin people will say He is the son Joseph.If you have bible please read Matthew chapter 2 and Luke Chapter 2

I think the animals will respect the blessed people of God but not human like you. Dont you have any weight in your tongue to utter such words. You have food, shelter, clothing, and whatever a human is blessed for that is why you talk with such pride. God Almighty forgives but also he can deprive all these things in a second. I have visited some of the natural disaster places like floods, tsunami in Sri Lanka. I spoke to some people, they are in a daze and so frightful, some people said it was good because it washed away the dirt and brought fear to the hearts of mankind, though these very people suffered. Please dont miscalculate your thoughts for money at somebody who was blessed by Almighty God. Your learned, but you cannot try to twist and turn things which is securedly in the hands of God. Watch out your steps a straight road may turn out to be 1000s' of steps which you will not be able to climb nor come down.

TO the one who asked that whether we muslims pray to Mary? No we don't, we only consider her as the mother of Jesus and we consider Jesus as aprophet of God and nothing more than that