Insurance and preventive care - they won't pay to prevent anything!

@mommyboo (13174)
United States
July 16, 2008 10:41am CST
Share your opinion! Do you think that insurance really cares about preventive care? They sure make a lot of noise about it, but then they won't cover this, they won't cover that, and you have to jump through hoops and try to provide documentation of medical necessity and they STILL won't cover things! The system needs an overhaul, only doctors should be able to say medical necessity, partnered by patients. Ins companies should have no say, no right to decide anything. The bottom line, if they really DID focus on preventive care which does include birth control by the way, costs would be lower in the long run. I also think that dental preventive care could be better by covering some things longer, fluoride for kids, sealants, more coverage available for ortho and/or surgeries if needed.
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• United States
23 Jan 09
The problem with no control about what's medically necessary is: I have a bad shoulder, and am a candidate for surgery. I could probably convince my doctor that the "Hot Rocks Massage", given by professional licensed massage therapists, at the Brown Palace Spa would help tremendously, and possibly help me avoid surgery. At the very least it will help me manage the pain. It only costs $350 for the afternoon, not including champagne or tip. Twice a week for the next several months should do it. Don http://mtnhealthinsurance.com
@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
24 Jan 09
Well, it still should not be up to insurance companies. They don't know 'medically necessary' from a hole in the ground, only a doctor would. Now a doctor might not be into using experimental treatments or something such as massage - but I have to say that I reopened a claim once from a car accident and I DID get chiropractic and massage care covered. My doctor wanted to do that first and if it didn't work, then he wanted me to go get physical therapy. The chiro and massage did the job and I slowly weaned off both and got the range of motion in my neck back despite working a 12 hour shift job on my feet on concrete. I did have to see an idependent doctor chosen by the insurance who examined me and did some tests, and I had to consult my regular doctor too who performed the same exam and tests and they both submitted their findings to the ins co - who happened to discover that the results were the same and both doctors recommended the same treatments. Fortunately I had kept ALL the info from when I had been in the car accident, including all the paperwork from the ER and the followups with my doctor so they were able to look at that and determine the claim needed to be reopened. I was actually a bit surprised, if my doctor had recommended physical therapy first, HIS office would have made a killing, and ins co are more likely to pay for recommended phys therapy than massage and chiro. I don't necessarily think that everybody is always out to get you, at least not doctors. I have billed and collected from insurance companies though and they will do ANYTHING to get out of paying anything.
• United States
16 Jul 08
I think it's very stupid that some insurance companies don't cover preventative care. Doesn't it make more sense for them to pay for the $100 physical every year rather than have to cough up a bunch of money for a procedure that could have been avoided or treated more successfully early? My insurance company lowered my copays to $15 for yearly checkups (including women's health screenings and BC), recently. I think they made a very sensible decision for everyone involved. The good thing about the preventative care is that, even if you don't have insurance or your insurance won't cover it, it's pretty inexpensive. My OB-GYN appointment, including all of the labwork, for the year was $125 and my BC is $115/3 months, without insurance. With insurance it was only $25. A yearly physical at my regular doctor is about $150, including all of the labwork, and they'll cut you a deal if you don't have insurance, even. Dental care is a whoooole 'nuther ballgame though! Sealants and fluoride, not to mention cleanings, aren't cheap, and a lot of dental insurances only cover a tiny portion of it. Then, once you get to a certain age, you have to pay for sealants and fluoride because the insurance doesn't cove it. Yayayayaa...
@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
20 Jul 08
If insurance does not pay for all the costs, or most of them, what is even the point of paying the money for the insurance in the first place? A lot of plans are only catastrophic, meaning that you pay a significant premium (sometimes more than $300 per month for a family) but you have a deductible of something like $1500. This means that on top of paying say $300 per month for the insurance, the insurance pays for NOTHING until you have paid at least $1500 per year towards medical bills! For a family who never gets sick or injured, this is ridiculous. Even having a deductible of $500 would be too much for me, I go see the doctor like once a year. For me, I need a plan that is reasonable (less than $100 a month for a family) and a small copay ($20 or less for a dr visit) and no deductible. Dental care I have found goes from excellent to poor as far as insurance. The plan we have right now is excellent, it pays 100% for preventive type care except for perio maintenance, 90% for most basic services, and 80% for major services, 50% or up to a certain cap for ortho. Some dental insurances pay almost nothing, so people cannot even afford preventive care, and by the time they manage to go in because something is terribly wrong, nothing can be done.
@arkaf61 (10881)
• Canada
2 Aug 08
You're right of course, but if it wasn't like this how could they make millions of dollars in profit? That's what matters, you see. Of course it makes more sense to prevent and they want us to do it, but at our own expense, not theirs. DOn't forget one thing: they couldn't care less about us. They're in a business to provide what shouldn't be needed in the first place, and they rule as they want because they can. It has been a long time since I felt any socialist tendencies, but I really don't agree with health insurance the way you describe it. Health - and education, by the way - should not be something that gets better the more money one has.
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
3 Aug 08
methinks they only care about covering their butts...
@baileycows (3665)
• United States
16 Jul 08
I know my insurance does. They pay for lots of preventative care preventions at 100%. However I never seem to take advantage of them.