I wish this election was over and done with...

Australia
October 6, 2008 11:42pm CST
Perhaps then there might be room in the political forums for something other than endless debates on the probity of the four candidates, mudslinging from both sides, and boring party political rhetoric. As an Australian I am certainly affected by what happens in the US election, unfortunately, but unless it's something I simply can't resist, I don't feel it appropriate for me to be trying to contribute to something I have only an outsider's view and knowledge of. I would love to discuss politics. But I don't mean party politics, I mean discussing things like critiques of democracy, globalisation, environmental politics, alternative systems: you know, interesting stuff. Lash
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@fasttalker (2798)
• United States
7 Oct 08
I'm hearing you loud and clear! I have never wanted an election to just be over with more than this year. I get so sick of listening to the mudslinging I could puke! I wouldn't let your location deter you from jumping right in. From some of the things I've heard and read I think some of the people are from another planet! LOL Sad part is it is winding down now and it will only get worse for the next month. Have a good day!
@evanslf (485)
7 Oct 08
I wholly agree with you and wish this election circus had finished long long ago. That said, I have attempted to post things that seek to discuss deeper political issues (like for instance considering the long-term impacts, political and economic, of the credit crunch) but such posts don't seem to attract much attention on MyLot, perhaps they will be more successful when this partisan political atmosphere has dissipated somewhat after the US elections
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@xParanoiax (7005)
• United States
7 Oct 08
You've my deepest sympathy. Even me -- a political addict, am getting really tired of this election season. People always get a little crazy when an election is going on, but it's just...blah, this year. At least it'll be over soon...at least for the American election. I wish there were more discussion on the finer points of politics that you mention though -- environmental especially interests me right now. But globalization, localization, new ideas...all this stuff would be wonderful if we could focus on it a bit equally at least. But I suppose we'll all just have to wait til the elections are done. *sigh* Let people cool off. Find their sense again. Return to some semblance of reasonable-ness lol. We'll just have to count down the days, I reckon ^_^'
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• Australia
7 Oct 08
Well, once it's over I have in mind starting stuff on all those things, plus bioregionalism and grassroots democracy, I look forward to your input. Lash
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• United States
10 Oct 08
I look forward to your discussions!
@jahrock (111)
7 Oct 08
Well Grandpa, I think you should stop feeling sorry for yourself and jump right in with whatever aspect of politics you think would be interesting enough to get some response. Like you I am outside the US Election area, but one big lesson we have all learned in the last two weeks is how we are all so inter-linked and inter-dependent, with all the ramifications of the present fiscal crisis and the way it will continue to affect us all. Yes, the Americans have been keeping you and I amused with the very partisan way they have been approaching the build up to their elections in November, but come on! Surely that's the fire and brimstone that makes the whole thing work, especially on the levels of participation and true one-sided approach to two party politics! Are you really telling us that you are any less vociferous down there in Aussie land when you're in election mode? The real crisis for us here on Mylot comes when we have to strike the right balance between what we think makes sense, and which topics people will react to in sufficient numbers to make them viable. There's an old Yorkshire (I think) saying which goes..."There's nowt so queer as folk!" which sums up the problems we have, especially when we start what we think are great topics.....then wonder why we got not a single response, while reading others that got a large number of responses.
• Australia
7 Oct 08
Well, thank you so much for your condescension, I promise I will try to stop feeling sorry for myself. As for your question about us being any less vociferous, I assume you mean any less mudslinging, and yes, in fact we are, although no less partisan. But I live in a political system that is not entirely two-party, where minor parties often control the senate and have a very real say in legislation, so it's not a one-sided approach at all. To be honest, I'm not sure what point you are making with the Mylot reference - or maybe that is your crisis, in which case I sincerely hope you get it sorted. Lash
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@jahrock (111)
7 Oct 08
Sorry if you mistook my sense of humour for condescension...last thing I would think of doing. Your point seemed to be a desire for better political discussions on topics you mentioned, and I was simply pointing out that the Mylot experience is a challenge to find topics, not so much that WE think are great, but topics that will attract a good range of responses. Keep smiling!
@greysfreak (1388)
• United States
7 Oct 08
I am right there with you! I have been sick of the election since like February or March. Because of the childish antics and fighting between the candidates. This election has me to where I don't even know what side I'm on anymore. I definitely think it's very divisive. I used to think I was far left in my views, because there are some issues that I lean left on. But now I have come to realize I'm really more independent. I've come to that conclusion because the attacks really do turn me off, and the fact that I am about half and half on the social issues in particular. Anyway, I agree.. I hope that once this election is over that this political interest can turn into and interesting place to come and discuss social issues and every other political issue out there--but without the immaturity that comes from partisanship. I know that I am open to hearing everyone's opinions, but it seems that during and election season, logic goes out the window. And that is sad, logical thinking is more important now than ever! I hope that you will feel more comfortable putting in your opinion now and in the future, because you are right, as an Australian you are affected by what happens in the US, the whole world is--considering the US is supposed to be a leader in the world.
• Australia
7 Oct 08
I won't comment on your election issues because I simply don't know enough about them. But that said, I am violently opposed to extreme conservatism in whatever form, and that includes left-wing dictatorships which are equally conservative. So I will be hoping for Obama to win as I was hoping desperately for out current Labour Prime Minister to remove the ultra-conservative Howard from office, which he thankfully did, even though my own vote went to the Greens. Our voting system is radically different to yours, so that comment wasn't as contradictory as it might sound to an American. Lash
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@stealthy (8189)
• United States
7 Oct 08
I wished it was over a year ago. I sometimes wonder how people in other countries view the coverage of the process given that the top three TV Networks, ABC, CBS and NBC in the US are very biased towrd the liberal Democrats. Does that translate into bias in your country for instance and can you tell?
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• Australia
7 Oct 08
Kennyrose, I doubt that you and I will ever see eye-to-eye on political issues. I would class as radical liberal, about as far to the opposite end of the scale as I could be from you. I'm pretty radical even for a lot of liberals lol. Australia is a country which alternates between conservative and vaguely left-wing (Labour) governments, although it would be true to say that both sides have shifted sharply to the right over tha past twenty years or so. The things you dislike so intensely I see as the basic core of good government, but I think the American Right's view of these things is a bit exaggerated - to the point sometimes of seeming hysterical (and I don't mean funny). Regulation to protect the less aggressive or less able citizens from exploitation is not a communist plot, it is simply an attempt to govern for the overall good of ALL the people. Lash
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9 Oct 08
Not me. For the first time years people are talking and debating and generally acting like concerned citizens. The bad aspects of the political process are just something to wade through. This is democracy as it was meant to be. People getting active I mean. :)
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@soooobored (1187)
• United States
7 Oct 08
I completely agree with you. I get along with conservatives and liberals alike here, as while I'm liberal in most views I do hold a pretty strong conservative streak (in politics as in life!). I guess its because I see both sides I'm hyper sensitive to the mudslinging. I don't endorse either candidate fully, but it is just my nature to try to protect debate from unfair accusations and irrelevant discussions. Some of the worst I've seen has actually come from the liberal side, discussing McCain and Palin's personal lives as though it were a relevant issue to the election. Which I find totally absurd, one of the major reasons I identify with democrats is because I view them as the party that doesn't rely so much on the candidates morality, or religious affiliation! (Not to say they would endorse candidates who are known criminals or jerks, I mean they don't presume to force their own morality on an entire nation ) Hopefully when the election is over MyLot will see discussions again like you mentioned. One of the reasons I'm so fond of MyLot is it's a great melting pot, people from all over the world contribute equally, and I'm sure we can all learn a lot from the posters here!
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@sharra1 (6344)
• Australia
12 Oct 08
Yes I will be glad when this election campaign is finally over. I am also an outsider but I am totally sick of the hatred that is being spread by one side against the other. It has become so bad that I wonder if Obama actually wins will he survive to take office.
@youdontsay (3503)
• United States
7 Oct 08
AMEN! I'm so sick of the campaigning b.s. I think they should limit campaining to one month before the primaries and one month before the election. And I think all the primaries should be in the same month rather than stringing it out for half the year. The original structure was for an era when communication was slow. With this information age there is no good reason to take so long to get to an election.
• United States
7 Oct 08
me too I hate politics and anything talking about them because it's nothing but drama and mostly lies no one can claim that they are the best until they show it and I haven't seen crap in years that would ever add up to the promises they make.