Dec. 25th is always celebrated as Christmas day is it Biblical?

@mobhomeir (7565)
Philippines
November 17, 2008 6:23am CST
December 25th is always celebrated as Christmas Day or the day when our Lord Jesuschrist was born. This is always celebrated by some christians. If you believed in the Holy Bible as an authoritative book of christian believers, why is it that we can't find any verses in the Holy Bible describing that date (Month of December) coinciding the season (that might had )of Bethlehem, which is where our Lord Jesuschrist was born.Part of the story at the bible behind Jesuschrist's birth was; ..there were shepherds pasturing their sheeps when they saw a stars that guided them to the place where actually Jesuschrist was born,and there were the three kings who brought gifts to Him.. If we study well the real season Bethlehem whixh is a part of Jerusalem, December month to January are coldest part of the year. During that months they could not do their pasturing of their sheeps because of the cold weather.. have you analyzed that? In your point of view, whats really the birthdate of our Lord Jesuschrist? If we consider December 25th is the real one, it would might be contradicting the real scenario of His birth place against the climate if it was December 25th...what can you say about this...
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@jlamela (4909)
• Philippines
18 Nov 08
I am a devoted Catholic and adhere to the teachings of the Universal church. December 25 is being set to commemmorate the birth of Jesus Christ, you cannot find it in the bible because there are traditions in the christendom that no exact date where it happened. Christmas day on December 25 was being set by Pope Julius III and All saint's day on November 1 was set by Pope Alexander IV. The events of our Christian life are being arranged by early Theologian scholars and Popes according to chronological order or what happened first and not necessarily according to that exact date. Our gregorian calendar is set by Pope Gregory XVI so there are chances that whatever happened before is not exactly the same as we celebrate it today but what is the most important thing is that we celebrate and honor it by heart. It is not a thing to argue for, whatever the mystery and miracles that happened before is beyond the understanding capacity of our human brain, the most important thing is we take them by heart and believed them, if we continue arguing with our faith, it is like that we kept on asking what is the first to come: an egg or a chicken. It is not our duty to analyze the seasonal change that happened before christ was born. Solemnities and days of obligations are being set by early Popes so that we, as followers have specific dates to look upon. In Catholic religion, we have Catholic digests and Vatican Council II books to read on for some clarifications in Christianity issues.
• Australia
18 Nov 08
No, those dates were not set in chronological order of what happened, but to parallel and hopefully overcome the pagan festivals set for the same dates. Lash
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@mobhomeir (7565)
• Philippines
18 Nov 08
Roman Catholic is another group of Christian believers propagated mostly by Spaniards. We are talking here of DECEMBER 25 being celebrated by some christian believers as the birthdate of our Lord Jesuschrist. The question is it BIBLICAL? I mean can this be found in the Holy Bible? You commented it with the suport of some Popes, Theologian scholars etc etc without even mentioning just a few words based on the bible. Im sorry to say, but I think you are a better follower of those popes and your theologian scholars.You have proven to us that these all were made by them not from the bible. You even mentioned All Saint's Day. Who were these popes and theologians? They are just human beings. Those theologians and popes of yours are responsible of this December 25 and even November 1 deceiving our grand grand grandparents, from so many generations that passed to us.I was also a devoted catholic before because I did not know the real truth, but now that i've grown enough and was given a knowledge of the whole truth, would I still be following those WRONG belief being made by those popes and catholic theologians? No way. I am a truly christian therefore I will follow what the Bible says because it is only in the bible where the teaching of our God and our Lord Jesus Christ being written for the followers to follow..I am sorry mam but in your statement you are not maybe a christian follower.. its enough with you if you can celebrate and honor it in your heart....
• Australia
18 Nov 08
I would have thought mainly Roman popes, the Spaniards came 1000 years after the foundation of the Catholic Church. Lash
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• Australia
17 Nov 08
In many pagan traditions, the winter solstice (22-23/12) celebrated the birth of the sun-god, and when Christianity was trying to pacify the pagans they made many Christian festivals coincide with the old Pagan ones in the hope that the Christian ones would take over - as they did. Halloween (All Hallows Eve) coincides with Samhain, which is a pagan festival in which the veil between the worlds (human/spirit) is at its thinnest, a time of great fear for the pagans that the fairies might steal their spirits, and so the Christian festival reflects that fear with its trick and treat. There are many others. The Christians also built a lot of their churches on pagan holy sites. The other thing they did was to take the pagan image of the horned Lord, a God of the hunt and of ecstasy (like Pan) and turned it into the horned devil, a quite different kettle of fish. This "demonised" one of the main pagan gods, as was its intent. Lash
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@mobhomeir (7565)
• Philippines
17 Nov 08
Thank you so much sir. I am a christian but different from other christian beliefs, traditions and customs. I learned something from what you commented. Happy mylotting...I really appreciated it..Keep it up..
• United States
18 Nov 08
hi! Christians, especially early christians, believed all 'the gods' were demons/fallen angels leading mankind astray.. But I think of them as attributes of God, but some as attributes of not God.. (Just my opinion mind you.) I think there was/is much wisdom in all/most indigenous beliefs, and I only hope no one minds all of us sharing these days.. Pagans celebrated (and celebrate!) life and life's renewal.. Christians see (their) God and Christ as life and renewal.. The Christian bible says "God is love". It all shouldn't be that big of a problem, it's human nature that makes it that way.
@Paula1966 (1102)
• United States
18 Nov 08
Logically, it was easier to convert early peoples to Christianity if you didn't take away their revelry. Hence, insertion of a celebration that took place at the same time as their winter observance.
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• United States
18 Nov 08
Heck yeah.. And after all, isn't it God who made the solstice? Instead of God stealing it back.. maybe it was stolen from him in the first place!
@remrick (202)
• Philippines
18 Nov 08
christmas is celebrated on the 25th of december as a matter of tradition... The exact birthdate of jesus is not mentioned in scripture... perhaps because it doesn't really matter exactly when he was born... I personally don't believe he was born on dec. 25 but i still celebrate christmas to remember what God did for me and for all of us... It doesn't matter to me when it happened, but WHAT happened... :) I seem to remember that "in the sixth month" Mary was told she was going to conceive. I don't know what that means in the context of Hebrew culture but maybe you could check that out in Luke. If we assume that Mary conceived around the time she was told about it, then you could work your way 9 months from that time to arrive at an approximation of what month jesus could have been born... :)
@1corner (744)
• Canada
18 Nov 08
Was gonna post separately to this discussion, but I share the same opinion with remrick. Dec. 25 is, by tradition, the day chosen to celebrate Christ's birth. The Bible didn't specify his birthdate because it's secondary in importance to the fact that He was born. One can celebrate his birthday any day of the year, if one wishes. Easter was the same thing. The Bible does say all that happened around the time of the Passover. So, if we look at the Jewish calendar, that would have been in the month of Nissan, i.e. early April in the Gregorian calendar. About Mary conceiving in the 6th month, the preceding passages were focused on her cousin Elizabeth's pregnancy; hence, it was during the 6th month of Elizabeth's bearing John the Baptist, Christ's cousin, that Mary began to bear Jesus, and not the 6th mo. in the Jewish calendar. Tells us there's a 3-month age gap between the cousins (John and Jesus).
@1corner (744)
• Canada
19 Nov 08
correction: sorry, not 3 months, but 6 mos. age gap between John and Jesus. The 3-month gap is between Mary's visit to Elizabeth and her conception.
@iZoran (111)
• Serbia And Montenegro
18 Nov 08
As already mentioned, december the 25th was chosen as the recognised birthday of Christ in order to take importance away from the Pagan festival. Now was Christ a Carpenter, a teacher or a fisherman? Apparently all three, however some favourite theories of mine include Christ really being a craftsman rather than carpenter (it checks out!) fitting him nicely into the role of Mason or freemason. Being a fish man rather than a fisherman, making him a Pisces. How does that fit in with your pasteurised sheep theory?
@mobhomeir (7565)
• Philippines
18 Nov 08
I think you better read first the bible, the whole scenario of our Lord Jesuschrist's birth.
@iZoran (111)
• Serbia And Montenegro
18 Nov 08
Yes I have read the Bible at least a dozen times. I don't understand your comment, could you perhaps make it clearer?
@phoenix25 (1543)
• United States
17 Nov 08
I have read various things that suggest that Jesus was not actually born in December. Some of it has to do with star placement and I believe some hints in the bible as well. I believe the reason that December 25 became the celebration of Jesus' birth has to do with Pagans. Most religions have a winter celebration that occurs around December/January. Christianity decided to celebrate Christmas at this time to encourage Pagans to convert to Christianity...so that they would have a winter celebration to celebrate that was similar to their own winter festival.
@mobhomeir (7565)
• Philippines
17 Nov 08
yes...thank God you are not one of those being fooled around as far as christmas day is concern. You're right thats PAGANISM..and million of us still embracing that tadition...happy mylotting..
• India
23 Nov 08
Dec 25 is a stolen Pagan festival. It is actually the feast of the Roman Sun God, which the Christians stole because they did not know when their fictitious hero was born. Nobody knows about the birth of JC. Nobody even knows if he truly existed or not. There are no contemporary evidences for the existence of JC. So, when you are celebrating Christmas, you are celebrating a Pagan feast. Even the decorating of the Christmas tree is a Pagan element. Cheers and happy mylotting
@patms1 (525)
• United States
18 Nov 08
Historians have said time and time again that Jesus was not born in December. The reason we celebrate the birth in December is because that date was also the date of a pagan holidays. By bringing them together it made is easier for the new Christians to except the teachings. There are many things in the christian religion that are based on old legends. By doing this it made people more willing to except the faith. I have come to realize that I must decide for myself what I will except and what I will discard.
• Philippines
18 Nov 08
I've heard of some cntradictions on when the real Christmas day is.You have a point when it came to the shepherds.Well some cult here in our country said that the real Christmas day is on October 15.
• United States
18 Nov 08
My point of view is that we don't know Jesus' birthday. We celebrate on December 25 because of Christianity adding a pagan feast so they could attract more Christians. I always like the thought of Jesus being a Capricorn, that means we have at least one thing in common. But it may just be the date that we celebrate.
@dong1970 (1573)
• Philippines
18 Nov 08
I don't think so,It is not stated on the bible.as far as i know this is a festivity from pagans and christians embrace this day and this can be called a pagans tradition.
@psalmist (109)
• Philippines
18 Nov 08
according to the bible jesus christ was born during cold season. it did not mention what month or date... i have not read in the bible about christmas.
• United States
17 Nov 08
In terms of origin, Christmas has little to do with Christianity. In fact, it is the result of incorporating pagan celebrations around the winter solstice into a set of practices acceptable to a new and growing faith. Early Christianity had many competitors. Pagan celebrations attacted a great deal of attention. The early church fathers needed to compete--hence Christmas. It was, to a degree, a matter of marketing. . . .
@randis1 (112)
• United States
17 Nov 08
Judging from what we know historically about events surrounding the birth of Jesus as the gospels portray them and as they coincide with writers like Josephus, we know that Jesus was probably born sometime in the spring to summer months. December 25th was adopted as his date because, at the time, there was no known date of his birth and, as somebody already pointed out, also because of the pagan customs of the day.
@rholex (4)
• Philippines
17 Nov 08
nothing in the bible says that december 25 is christ birhtday...