I am very poor

Australia
February 2, 2009 7:01pm CST
Yes I am very poor that my kids somethimes go hungry to bed, I dont have money to pay my bills. I cant afford formula for the baby nor could I afford diapers. Oh and by the way I smoke a packet a day, drink like fish, have mobile (with credit on it) and have computer and internet. I come across this situations so much that its starting to piss me off. I had to go to centrelink (which is like social security) to show them that my son started school and when my baby is due. Outside and inside there were lots of people waiting. I have absolutly no problem with people geting money from social security (I am one of them but I recive carer payment for my disabled son). What gets me is how they complain that they dont get enough and on my way in I had to pass about 10 of them with smokes in their hands with phones ringing all the time (one even had a bottle of wiskey in the pram) and when their turn comes they complain how they are starving. There is also this documentary about this family. This lady had 5 kids smoked all the time and drank a lot. They had nothing at home of value. She made sure she had enough money for beer and smokes and what was left was for everything else. Her kids had nothing to eat and the amount of fights and abuse in that home made me cry. What is your solution to this? Do you think its fair for parents to put their need infront of the kids? Does it make you angry seen how some people can afford smokes but not food?
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@Kenzierou (108)
• Indonesia
3 Feb 09
No one in the world shall abandon their children, even animals don't do that. Family things should always come first. If one can't commit to do that than he/she shouldn't have kids. Since children gets hungry even only sometimes, it should be a great motivation to start quit smoking and drinking for good. It can at least save some money for family's primary needs.
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• Australia
3 Feb 09
That is my point if they use the money that they buy 1 pack of smokes they will save some $15 with that money a child can have at least fruit and vegetables for a week.
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@bamrahkirti (1819)
• India
3 Feb 09
It is very bad on the part of parents if they are fulfilling their comforts before providing for their children's needs.I think people have become selfish even towards their kids.Smoking and drinking are the habits which ruin a person's life or a person can pursue these bad habits if he has extra money at his disposal but if his children are going without food and he is drinking and smoking ,i think it is disgusting. The government should take the custody of children from such parents and these children should be sent to foster homes so as to save them from mental agony and physical tensions.
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• Australia
3 Feb 09
The thing is who knows if they have food or not maybe they are using their kids as an excuse for more money.
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• United States
3 Feb 09
I agree wholeheartedly. Too many parents are irresponsible and not up to the task of raising a child.
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• Australia
3 Feb 09
that is so true
@Amberina (1542)
• United States
3 Feb 09
What they should do is get cards, one card for food and only food, one card for bills and only bills, and a card for gas for the car. No cash No checks no money handling just plastic cards that the food store accepts for food and the bill places accept for bills and the gas station accepts for gas no money is to be givein in change. And if they decide to sell their cards for cash they get them taken away, to make sure they have the right person trying to spend the cards they need to have account numbers and show ID even sign a paper showing the same signature that's on the card. If they want real money for smokes an drink they can collect cans and maybe get a job or something make them WORK for their habits.
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• Australia
3 Feb 09
They were planing something like that but I dont know what happened I belive that any change is better than what we have now in Australia.
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@uath13 (8227)
• United States
3 Feb 09
I bet if you looked in the parking lot there'd be a bunch of nice pricey cars there too. That's the way it is here. They drive a BMW into the parking lot then ask for handouts.... meanwhile I work my a$$ off & can barely keep my rust bucket running & couldn't get any kind of help because "I make too much".
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• Australia
3 Feb 09
At one point we were very rich as well. I could not place my son in child care because of his disability and bad experience at child care. I could not work because I had to care for him. We only asked what was legaly right and nothing more.
• Philippines
3 Feb 09
yes violeta. how irresponsible to be a parent like that. as a parent you should be a good example to your kids and give the best for them. they should be the priority in that manner.. children will respect their parents and love them for they see how their parents work so hard just to give them the best though life is hard.
• Australia
3 Feb 09
In Australia we have something called baby bonus that parents got for each baby in 1 payment. It was found that many women (expecially young mothers) would have a baby so they can get the payment. Now its changed (I dont know what the findings were as to how true it was about those mothers). But now we are going to get the payments over the period of 26 weeks. So for handfull of people we are all going to have to deal with this. I planed to use my $5000 to store the umbilican cord blood from the baby and now we cat as we have to pre pay that.
• Australia
3 Feb 09
In the last line I ment cant not cat SORRY
• Philippines
3 Feb 09
oh... here in phil. there's no law like that. if you're going to build a family you should do it on your own and the expenses is all yours. except those that are employed and there are some health benefits for the entire family,,, just like that. but government here really has nothing to do with somebody else's family. they are aware of the existing problem but they dont give much attention to it. that is why you have to make other way to survive .. anyway that's the way life goes. right.. dont depend on others. and if you start a family. start it when you know you're stable
@lisa0502 (1726)
• Canada
3 Feb 09
I am someone that does not have alot of money. We are on government assistance due to personal circumstances. I make sure that our bills are paid with the money and that my kids always eat well. I am a smoker, but I tell you that I would go without food for myself to support my habit before I would ever make my kids go without. There is no excuse for these people not to feed their kids or make them go without. I mean sure they can go without some of the luxuries but not the necessities.
• Australia
3 Feb 09
I am with you. When I smoked I would go without smoking for days if we were runing low on money. I am all for government assistance God knows that some people need it and you never know what toomorow will bring any one of us could need it.
• Indonesia
3 Feb 09
no, no, noooo. you should just quit smoking. you need to be aware that you're not afford to have that luxury of smoking. It's all in your head, if you think you want and need to stop smoking, you can and you will stop.
• Malaysia
3 Feb 09
i am with you, except for the smoking part. if you could give up on smoking i am sure you have so much more for the family...
@Ithink (1973)
• United States
3 Feb 09
People like this actually make me sick, We had 7 children and 2 are still at home along with raising our 2 year old granddaughter. The children had always and will always come first in their needs. That is what parents are suppose to do, take care of their children, make sure they have all their needs filled. Personally I would think about turning them into Children Protection, as that is no way for children to be treated or raised. FOOD should always come first, especially before cell phones, drinking and cigs!
@Ithink (1973)
• United States
4 Feb 09
Who would give them more money??
@worldwise1 (14893)
• United States
4 Feb 09
I think you sound very judgmental, violeta. Everyone has something that they feel they really need to get by. Is it right to let your kids go without while you indulge in whatever it is that makes you happy? NO! However, most parents are conscientious enough to want the best they can afford for their kids. The poor are always going to be with us, but even poor folks need something to get them through their day. I don't subscribe to the view that all poor people should be made to live a deprived and needy existence. I am poor but I have learned to be selective about my needs and wants. A person doesn't have to wear sackcloth and ashes just because they don't have a lot of money.
• India
4 Feb 09
Yes I am very poor that my kids sometimer go hungry to bed,I dont have money to pay my bills . I cant afford formula for the baby nor could I afford diapers.Oh and by the way I smoke a packet a day,drink like fish,have mobile & have computer and internet . I come accross this situation so much that its starting to piss me off.I had to go to cyberlink to show them that my son started school and when my baby is due.Outside & inside there were lots of people waiting.
• Australia
4 Feb 09
and your point is????????
@cutepenguin (6460)
• Canada
3 Feb 09
It upsets me. I think kids deserve to be a priority, not just something that gets fed after the parents wants are paid for.
• Australia
4 Feb 09
They deserve but in many cases they dont get what they need.
@thedaddym (1737)
• United States
3 Feb 09
Yes it does make me sick too. I came from a poor family, and I worked really hard to get my self in to a better situation. It drives me nuts to see people who do not do the same and who bring children in to this world only to look out for their selves and their own needs, and all the while taking money from people like me who has worked hard my entire life. I am not saying that it is bad to ask for assistance if you need it, but this should not be a way of life for people, it should be a temporary hand up until you are able to pull yourself up and provide for you and your own. The exception being disability everyone else is physcially capable of improving their own situations.
• Australia
4 Feb 09
The system needs to be changed in Australia that is 100% right but it will be a long time expecially with the curent economy. I just wonder how many young lifes would be stuffed up.
• India
3 Feb 09
dont worry this is the journey of our life and every one can face it.do good jobs save money and use your opinion that you become good job maker.
• Australia
4 Feb 09
Again read the whole post not just the first few lines I AM NOT POOR I put my self in that position to make a point.
@ladym33 (11012)
• United States
3 Feb 09
You bet it makes me angry. I know cigerettes are addictive and all that and blah, blah, blah, but if my kids were starving I think I would find a way to quit. Heck if my kids were starving I would be out collecting cans, and bottles, and giving blood, working three jobs, dumpster diving for recyclables what ever it took to keep a roof over their heads, food in their mouths and clothing on their backs. My children are my responsibility I chose to bring them in to this world so they are what I must take care of. Honestly I don't know why some people have children, and if they do have children, and don't want to or can not take care of them then they should give them up for adoption and let someone who is capable and would really love to take care of them. There are wonderful people like my sister and her husband who would love to care for a baby but they can not have them, then there are all these idiots having children and treating them like crap. It makes me sick. Even if you don't have kids don't complain about not having any food to eat while you smoking three packs a day. You could eat for several days if you shop wisely on what those cigeretts cost. I have volunteered a couple of times at our local food pantry and when I was there I saw people coming in with their kids, the mom's were wearing designer clothing, and the kids were all wearing official licensed sport jersies. Those things are expensive. Here I am volunteering to help these people and donating food for them, when they are wearing clothes that I would not dish out that kind of money for. They are either scamming the system, or just not spending their money correctly, and taking food from people who really need it.
• Australia
4 Feb 09
Do you know why some of them have kids. To get more money and I have heard it so many times "why bother working when I have 6 kids and I get as much as I would if I work". There is little you can say to that but God help us all. Nice eg to those 6 kids.
• Philippines
3 Feb 09
quit smoking, quit drinking and get a job.. its good you know that your poor.. and its about time to move and work to be rich.. right?
• Australia
4 Feb 09
My dear I will just tell you to read the whole post before you answer. I am not poor far from it I was making a point if you read the whole thing you would have got it.
@gemini_rose (16208)
3 Feb 09
You are right, so very right, not everyone but certainly a lot of people put their needs over those of the rest of their family. Unfortunately though it is those that usually complain about it and then get given every benefit going while genuine people who put their families first get nothing but the bare minimum of help. I have often had this annoying discussion with my hubby, I used to have a friend, she had the same amount of children as me and a partner, neither of them worked. My hubby busts a gut going out and working all the hours he could yet we had nothing and they were loaded!! True she was always buying designer clothes for her and her kids, always had proper ciggies while we smoked rollies and always had a purse stuffed with money while I would have to write a list of everything I could buy and just a few pounds in my purse. The one thing I will say in her defence is she did always put her children first. But I have known a lot of people who live like the rich on benefits yet complain they have no money for their kids because they have spent it all on themselves first.
@subha12 (18472)
• India
3 Feb 09
it is really bad. they are just taking the undue advanatge. they are smoking, drinking and have cellphones. still they re taking money s they say they are starving. it piss me off.
• United States
3 Feb 09
NO! I think it is disgusting for a parent to put smoking and drinking in front of caring for their children. There are a lot of parents out there that get their nails done, buy clothes, shoes, purses, etc with the child support money! I do not agree with that either because most of the time their children look like they barely have anything and the momma is wearin PRADA..........what????? That makes no sense to me. If a woman and man come together long enough to bring a child into this world they should damm sure be ready to take care of that child or children. Those children did not ask to be here and I hate to see any child without enough to eat or drink. I am pissed off just thinkin about it!!!!!!!!!!!!
@AmbiePam (40409)
• United States
3 Feb 09
I know what you mean. I sure do. I know quitting smoking is hard, but when there ar children on the line? It isn't impossible to overcome. And I see parents with camera phones that do 100 different things, but they are in line for help. And it doesn't mean they don't need the help, but please, let the help get to the people who need it. I don't know if all parents can be counted on to put the money towards their children, and not themselves.
• Australia
3 Feb 09
Few years ago my son went to a playgroup that was held (or we rented the place) from a community organisation that helped people in needs. Few weeks before christmas there was a notice that parents can put their names and age and gender of the kids to have christmas gift. One of the mothers (her husband owned a buisness and she worked as well and just got a brand new car) asked me if I put my name down. I had no idea what for and I said sorry what do you mean. And she said go put your name down they are giving the kids brand new free toys. I said I might not have much but I think I can buy my son a gift and let that present go to someone that deserves it. So to answer your post yes I belive people like that exsist and its sad when they do that.
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• Philippines
3 Feb 09
That is sad to hear. To think that a mother should care about her child. She should have thought of her childrens sake first before thinking of her vices. She would not realize one day that her children is already gone. Or may be she had an unforgettable past that is why she destroys her life. We never know. Only her knows why and the answer.
• Australia
3 Feb 09
I think both parents should be equaly responcible