degrees good or bad

@benny128 (3624)
March 19, 2009 3:10pm CST
I have friends that have degree's in bio sciences and geology, one even has one in molecular genetics (very posh) etc etc and they cant get jobs they are working in banks and mcdonalds doing cashier type jobs on minimum wage. They wish they had not wasted their tuition fee's, and got an apprenticeship out of school. I personally dont have any formal qualifications and have run a successful business for about 5 years so in my opinion degree's are not as important now a days. What is your view of degree's worth the money or not ?? and have you got people who have a degree but who cant find work in their chosen field.
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• United States
19 Mar 09
A degree is good and required for certain fields like medcine, law and education but others not so much. Personally when I graduated college in 04 I couldn't find a job in my field. I have a B.A. in Criminal Justice. There were 3 different degree plans to go under and I choose Legal Assistant. Most firms that I interviewd for wanted me to get a certificate on top of my degree. So I got my paralegal certificate in 06. Still on all the interviews I went on people wanted 3-5 years expirence. I finally got a job in 07 as a paralegal for a two small lawfirms(there a husband and wife who have work out of the same office but have kept there pratices separte) So I agree a Degree isnt everything an a College education certainly doesn't guarantee you a job. Most people will value work exiperence over a piece of paper.
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@benny128 (3624)
19 Mar 09
thank you for your reply I think degree's have been watered down as there are so many to choose from. Maybe if there was less choice they would be valued more.
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• United States
19 Mar 09
I do not have a degree myself but I do have an opinion on the topic. I have found that if you are not careful you can waste your time getting a degree and not using it. There are a lot of professions that count on the job training and experience as a better qualification than having a college degree. There are few exceptions but I believe they are mostly in what I call the professional area of jobs such as doctor, lawyer, nurse, scientist, etc. For the majority of jobs in the blue collar area I think a college education would be wasted. I personally went to college for a year until an eye injury took me out of classes as well as commission for a while and I just never went back. I started out taking computer programming and changed to their automotive department. I started taking evening and night classes and got a job in a garage for the day. I found that my on-the-job training helped more than the college courses. I admit that being ASE certified will help you get a job as a mechanic but you don't need it to get a job and you can take the test without having college experience. I personally know people that have received a degree from college but that degree had no impact on getting their current job. I am not saying that a college education is not important because it is, just be careful what field you choose so you can use that education.
@benny128 (3624)
19 Mar 09
totally agree with you well said, I think getting a job then doing a degree in the field of work that you are doing while you are in work is more beneficial than getting a degree then trying to find work.
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• Philippines
20 Mar 09
A degree is also good but it depends on the person itself if he wants to use his skills. I have some friends like yours that have degrees but don't work or works as a cashier only. I pity them Have you read the book, "Rich Dad, Poor Dad" by Robert Koyasaki? Its about the father of two friends...Robert's dad didn't reach college but earns a lot of money and can provide anything to his family... while his friend's dad is the opposite, has a college degree and had a hard time earning money.
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@benny128 (3624)
21 Mar 09
yeah thats me I left school with no qualifications yet I am 34 and semi retired and have ran my own successful business for 5 years where as I have friends who have spent 20k uk pounds on a degree and are earning min wage
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@pauline08 (101)
• China
20 Mar 09
When a thing is scarce, it is precious. Now there are so many people with degrees, but there aren't enough jobs for them, so only top of them can get a job. In some fields, you must have a degree. But in other fields, the degree is useless. So we can't say degrees are good or bad arbitrarily.
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• China
20 Mar 09
In china degree is really important, if you don't have a degree, you can't find a good job. But a lot of people got their job, can't find work in their chosen field, so do I.
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19 Mar 09
Yeah, I went to Uni. as a mature student. At the time, student grants were still available, I had some money saved up (at the time!). Student loans had come in, but at that time, they didn't have to be paid back, unless one was earning a high income (over £25,000 per year - pounds sterling - over $35,000 US). So I naturally got a loan to top up my living allowance grant. At that time, tuition fees were paid by the local education authority, as long as your parents weren't earning too much - as I was a mature student that didn't come into the equation. As to the question, yes, personally, going to Uni was worth it. I didn't get a job in what I trained for, but it certainly helped to get my current job. The life experience there was very enjoyable too! The picture is very different today. The universities and government between them have made it very expensive, what with high tuition fees as well. Today it has been on the news that Universities want a huge increase. I think that with the credit crunch, many would be students will do anything they can to go to Uni. and won't be put off by massive debts. I guess that if they don't earn enough money they could always go bankrupt!
• China
20 Mar 09
i agree with you
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@benny128 (3624)
21 Mar 09
thanks for your comment, I have a lot of friends who have degrees in gelogy and science's and they are working min wage i at fast food restaurants so I guess its personal choice
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@nikky28 (1578)
• India
21 Mar 09
A degree is important to people who want to be employees and can't start their own business. If they are looking for job security and want to minimize risks, I would suggest that they have a degree and follow the traditional method of making money. If you can stand on your own legs and can take risks and are a street smart, I think a degree is a waste of time and money. People who earn more money are usually business men and investors, so I think that people who are ambitious can do really good on their own with or without a degree. I have always believed that experience is the best teacher and not academics.
@benny128 (3624)
21 Mar 09
saying that I have alot of friends who have degree's and think they have wasted their money and time. To give you just one example one of my school mates done a bio-science degree and cost him in excess of 20k uk pounds, he is working in mcdonalds earning min wage, and employers wont touch him I think theres far too many people being accepted onto a degree course that the market is flooded. I also know school mates who did a degree because they didnt want to work, not saying everybody is like that but I think theres a far few who do a degree instead of going out to work.
@snow8515 (170)
• China
20 Mar 09
In my opinion, there are many factors influencing whether your degree help you in your career. Maybe you have studied and researched in fields of quite advanced technologies and gotten high degree. However, there have not been formed a macro-economies or marchet in these fields. And if you are not interested in research in laboratory, there are difficulties looking for careers in such fields.
@snow8515 (170)
• China
20 Mar 09
In China, there are many examples that students graduted from famous universities such as Peking University and Tsinghua University live on selling pork, taking care of children. Finding a good job needs good chance. But I consider it be a waste of persons with ability if those people who obtain high degree don't work in such fields.
@spalladino (17927)
• United States
21 Mar 09
It depends on what the degree is in and if it will translate into a decent job. As your friends have learned, some degrees turn out to be worthless pieces of paper in the real world. I have degrees in computer technology and I continue to self teach in order to keep up with the advances in my field. My skills can translate into a variety of good paying jobs...if there were any available down here in the middle of nowhere, Florida where I live.
• China
20 Mar 09
In recent serval yeas ,degree's is not very important in china.The important is one's abilitys.But some Forgien enterprise were Concern about degree's.Such Use,Japan,etc.
@tjdas83 (178)
• Malaysia
20 Mar 09
Yeah it's pretty common now that people with a degree of a certain major, don't tend to work in fields of their major. I have many friends, including me, who eventually start working in different fields of their major. But I don't regret going to uni and getting my degree cause the experience itself is fulfilling enough. I learned a lot more than just the academic side of uni. It does color-up your resume when you mention that you have a degree. Because they know the experiences and dedication it takes to obtain a degree and they appreciate you much more. I think it's money well spent.
• Taiwan
20 Mar 09
Maybe it depends, if you run business by yourself ,i think it's not so important to get degrees,but if you want to hunt for a good job in famouse companies, it's too important to have enviable degrees.I graduated from a common college and i studied the courses of another famouse university and got its diploma but no degree.It's obviously hard to find a good job for me .Although i really learnt more from that university but i have no degree!Some companies will choose resume according to whether you own a degree at first!
• United States
20 Mar 09
A friend once told me "Your degree isn't worth the paper it's written on", and that saying has stuck with me all these years. A degree really is just training. It doesn't denote good or bad. In my industry some teachers are really awesome and others are horrible. I think your life and career are what you make of it. Though I agree more jobs today require more education, I think you are just at risk for layoffs, and the what not. I also know many people who have become very successful who do not have degrees at all. Namaste-Anora