The total contempt Obama has for the US Constitution
By ParaTed2k
@ParaTed2k (22940)
Sheboygan, Wisconsin
May 1, 2009 1:12pm CST
If anyone out there still holds on to any hallucinations that Prs. Obama holds anything but total contempt for the US Constitution... read this...
"In a Sept. 6, 2001, interview with Chicago Public Radio station WBEZ-FM, Mr. Obama noted that the Supreme Court under Chief Justice Earl Warren "never ventured into the issues of redistribution of wealth and sort of more basic issues of political and economic justice in this society," and "to that extent as radical as I think people tried to characterize the Warren Court, it wasn't that radical."
He also noted that the Court "didn't break free from the essential constraints that were placed by the Founding Fathers in the Constitution, at least as it has been interpreted." That is to say, he noted that the U.S. Constitution as written is only a guarantee of negative liberties from government -- and not an entitlement to a right to welfare or economic justice."
Don't lie to me anymore about any supposed love that Marxist in Chief has for the US... his own words tell all we need to know about the pinworm.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122515067227674187.html
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11 responses
@Anora_Eldorath (6028)
• United States
1 May 09
I won't lie, I think that people will say what they want to about him, just like they would about anyone else in power. I voted for Obama, I like him, I think he's doing a good job with what he was left with, and I'm willing to give him the time to work on issues. I don't believe he's Marxist, or Communist. I don't believe America is Marxist or Communist. I do believe that Capitalism has hurt this country. I agree that the Constitution doesn't say "Everyone should be well off". It states that men have the right to the pursuit of happiness. It doesn't say it would be handed to them. I'm glad we've made addenments to the original Constitution, because the original one was written only for white male landowners. I'm glad women were given the right to vote, that african americans were given the right to vote. And I'm very thankful they added in the Bill of Rights.
Namaste-Anora
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@Citychic (4067)
• United States
2 May 09
Sorry but I gotta agree with you Anora_Eldorath, simply because you've made very valid points in everything here that you've mentioned. Personally speaking I'm not one to get involved in politics because it's so controversial. So many people are trying to find fault with what Obama is doing. Well that's to be expected......but very few are willing to step up to the plate. So if anybody out there think they can do a better job, I'm sure that Obama would have no trouble letting you have his position but you might have a little fight on ur hands if you have to deal with Michele, lols. There are so many things that go on behind the scenes that most of us couldn't possibly fathom. So why should people knock a man that's trying to make some sense of the Rat race that Bush has left us in?
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
2 May 09
I notice you didn't say anything about Obama's open and outright contempt for the US Constitution. Do you have anything to say about that?
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
2 May 09
It's not about what the constitution refers to in wealth and such. It's not even about Obama being a socialist. It's about the fact that he clearly doesn't understand the purpose of the supreme court and wants them to overstep their authority by forcing wealth redistribution. For a guy who's supposedly this brilliant constitutional lawyer, he sure doesn't sound like it.
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@bobmnu (8157)
• United States
1 May 09
All you have to do is look at what the man has done:
1. Told AIG Exec they could keep their bonus and then sends his ACORN Goons out to harass them at their homes, and bullies them on their bonus. He didn't say anything about John Edwards who also took a very low salary and huge bonus to avoid SS and medicare taxes.
2. He told the banks that he had no interest in owning the banks,but now wants to exchange Preferred stock for common stock(voting control).
3. He releases the CIA memos and says he will not prosecute the parties, then says maybe, now wants to go after the people who gave legal advice.
4. The a\American People were to be given 5 days to review bill on line before he signed them. Not even congress got to read the bill.
5. He told us the pork stops here. Now it does it stops with him and he gives it out.
This man can not be trusted. What is he hiding by sealing his Birth Certificate, Medical Records, Education Records and his billings from the Chicago law firm. All we know about the man is what he has told us.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
2 May 09
Yup.. "by their fruits ye may know them". His fruits prove him to be a piss poor role model for anyone who enjoys freedom.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
2 May 09
I almost feel sorry for you guys on the right! It's got to be killing you that President Obama will soon get to make his first Supreme Court appointment, although it's not likely to change the make-up of the court very much. My feeling is since the conservatives are going to fight tooth and nail no matter who he selects he might as well go for broke and pick a full-fledged liberal. Bush proudly picked the most conservative justices he could find and that was his right, he'd won the election. Now it's the left's turn.
Annie
@bobmnu (8157)
• United States
2 May 09
Excuse me but the Democrats held up for 8 years some judges and refused to let them come up for a vote. Senator Kennedy said it was the president duty to appoint a moderate judge that they, the Democrats approved. A lot of this started when Judge Bork was nominated and the Democrats went wild. When Justice Thomas was appointed the Democrats did everything to smear the man. When Justice Ginsburg (who was allowed to say I will not comment on a case that might come before me, and was allowed to not answer)appointed the Conservatives were upset but President Clinton had the privilege to appoint whom he wanted and the Republicans approved her almost unamiously. When President Bush tried to appoint the Democrats tried everything to block the appointments, including demands that they state under oath that they would not overturn Roe vs Wade.
I assume that the Republicans will not like the choices but will go along with the President without the name calling and smears the Democrats are famous for.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
2 May 09
Yet again you are holding Obama up to such high standards. Do you really want him to be like Bush Annie? Either way, you ignored the constitutional issue that was being discussed and don't seem at all concerned over what the actual role of the supreme court is.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
2 May 09
How does that have anything to do with Obama's open and outright contempt for the US Constitution? You said a lot about people on the right here, but we aren't the issue in this discussion. Do you have anything to say that is on topic?
btw, Obama is president and has every right to name whoever he wants to replace Justice Souter.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
1 May 09
I brought that up maybe 8 months ago. I'm pretty sure Kennyrose started a thread about it too. Nobody on the left cared. They didn't want to know anything about Obama that wasn't about how young, cool, and great at speaking he is. When you're dealing with fanatics, nothing will change how they feel about him.
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
2 May 09
So all these people supporting Obama don't give a crap about the constitution either. A couple just give the "Obama is doing a great job" crap and one couldn't help but pull the "But Bush..." Not one of them addresses the real issue which is the constitution. Why don't people on the left care about the constitution. It seems that the only time they reference it is when they want terrorists to have constitutional protections.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
4 May 09
I have NEVER called you a fascist or anything even remotely similar so I could do without the unfounded accusation.
Obviously no document is 100% perfect. However, it is the basis for law and government in this country and as the PRESIDENT he promised to honor and uphold the constitution. If he did not wish to do that, he shouldn't have taken the oath of office, plain and simple. It's not the president's job to pick and choose when he follows it, nor is it his job to change or modify it.
@miamilady (4910)
• United States
4 May 09
Just to keep things interesting and at the risk of being called a fascist once again, I have to wonder...isn't it possible that the Constitution, might perhaps be an "imperfect" document? Just like everything else that has ever been written?
@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
2 May 09
I am absolutely dumbfounded at some of the comments I have read in this thread from otherwise intelligent and educated people. Do you guys genuinely understand the roll and function of the supreme court at all? Seriously, do you? Cripe, I don't know whether to be disgusted or frightened or just laugh at how pitiful some of the comments sounded.
@bobmnu (8157)
• United States
2 May 09
The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States, and Treaties made, or which shall be made, under their Authority; to all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls; to all Cases of admiralty and maritime Jurisdiction; to Controversies to which the United States shall be a Party; to Controversies between two or more States; between a State and Citizens of another State; between Citizens of different States; between Citizens of the same State claiming Lands under Grants of different States, and between a State, or the Citizens thereof, and foreign States, Citizens or Subjects. This is the role of the Supreme Court as amended by the 11 amendment.
Here is a link to the US Constitution http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#Am11
It might be good for some of you to read it especially Sections 8 & 9 the powers of Congress and Amendment 9 and 10. Congress has not red this section of the constitution nor have some judges. It might be good to have all public officials read the constitution.
It would also be a good idea to have it taught in our public schools instead of how great socialism and Communism s as an economic and political system.
@miamilady (4910)
• United States
4 May 09
It is being taught in our public schools. I'm not sure if it is being taught in ALL our public schools, but my son is in the 7th grade. He took Civics this year and they covered the Constitution - The Amendments (focused on some more than others) and some Supreme Court cases.
@laglen (19759)
• United States
2 May 09
I looked through some responses and of course it scared me. I did notice a trend. The responses for Obama did not explain why it is ok for Obama to crush our Constitution. They just say that yeah they support him. Putting everything else aside, what the heck does the Supreme Court have to do with redistribution of wealth!?
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
4 May 09
I really don't think his minions care about the constitution at all. They'll use a line or two when it suits them, but basically they worship Obama and want nothing to do with a text that doesn't support his agenda. It's like telling a Buddhist they should follow the Quran.
And the answer to your question: ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
4 May 09
I am a Canadian and I checked into the candidates when the election was on, well because you are our trading partners, and though some things that we do influence laws down there, what you also do down there influences what goes up here. A leader who wants to emphasize with someone because he is poor and black with no regard to who is right is not just. It is just as wrong to steal if you are poor then if you are rich. And when someone favors a class of people who are poor, black, same gender loving, etc. pretty soon there are those who are not in that category who before loved their fellow man, start to have prejndices against tham
The reason your forefathers said "all men are created equal" was so that justice be done equally. It is not happening now.
@Adoniah (7513)
• United States
2 May 09
The problem is, more than 50% of Americans still don't get it. They do not see the true face of Congress or Obama. They think that everything is going to turn up fine. They want Congress and Obama to keep on Keepin on.
They do not see that we are becoming a Commie state and that at any time the Chinese and the Arab Emerites could walk in and call our debt since they have bought up most of our paper. They apparently do not understand what it means to Nationalize the Banks and businesses. They do not believe that the Gov. wants to control the farmers. The do not know that it takes more than a gallon of oil to make a gallon of ethanol. That ethanol in the tank ends up polluting the earth more than oil and that it uses more oil than a car. Was this maybe the car and oil companies idea?
Obama thinks its a really good idea. He wants all farmers to put some of their fields into corn just for ethanol. Of course, corn depletes the soil and only grows well some places and is the worst crop for ethanol, but so what. Of course, we are starving the third world countries and raising our food prices so high that our poor are suffering too, but who cares, Congress and Obama don't.
Shalom~Adoniah
Obama thinks its a really good idea. He wants all farmers to put some of their fields into corn just for ethanol. Of course, corn depletes the soil and only grows well some places and is the worst crop for ethanol, but so what. Of course, we are starving the third world countries and raising our food prices so high that our poor are suffering too, but who cares, Congress and Obama don't.
Shalom~Adoniah@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
5 May 09
It's ironic, Obama states who he is and what he's about; it's his worshippers who want to remake him in their own image.
@veromar (1453)
• Argentina
2 May 09
Look. They're all the same. The US has been going down this same path for decades. Are you all just now waking up to it?!?! Do a little research. Check into "Project for the new American Century". You'll see both sides involved. Personally, the whole "democratic" system utilized in the U.S. is a scam and "we the sheeple" perpetuate it by not asserting our Constitutional rights. We don't utilize the "by the people, for the people, of the people" foundation we have been given since the birth of the country. If we get screwed by our elected leaders, it's our own fault. Stop your whining, get off your duffs and DO something. Exercise your constitutional rights while they still have meaning.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
2 May 09
You support Obama's contempt for the US Constitution?
