What would you do if your Boss told you~~~~

@marciascott (25555)
United States
June 1, 2009 4:05pm CST
That he will pay you an extras amount of dollars and then when it come time to pay, there is a decrepency? We had already discuss would I would be making. I gave him my bill and he tells me I can't count? I can count very well when it comes to money. We are going to have to get a good understanding if he wants me to continue to work for him, I believe he is getting Senile? The other girl quit with no warning I think I can see why? He is a retired Doctor and he wants me to take care of his Wife. Now would do you think about that? I was $45.00 short. I just started but he is going to have to get it together. How would you handle this?
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@SomeCowgirl (32271)
• United States
1 Jun 09
I would tell him that you had a conversation about this and then next time talk about pay increase comes about I would get it in writing, if not on a recorder with his permission of course. Money is a hard thing to talk about, especially when it comes to money due to a person. Give him the benefit of the doubt now but remember to be prepared for questions later.
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@marciascott (25555)
• United States
1 Jun 09
I am going to talk to him tonight and just tell him, I will work for you but we have to come to some kind of agreement, Jobs are hard to come by, I just starting working agai, the Lady I use to tsake care of went to a Nursing Home. so I have been out of work for a while. So I really need trhe Job. But he is going to have to get things strait, I will write up a contract and give it to him. I know he desn't want me to quit. He has been through a lot of girls. And I know that is hard on his wife trying to get use to everybody.
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@SomeCowgirl (32271)
• United States
2 Jun 09
When you put it that way I think I can understand the stand point of the husband and his wife. You writing up a contract and sticking in there is great though, I'm sure it's not good for them to have so many different people coming in to their home. Sorry your other employer went to a nursing home but I hope that you still visit her!
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@suzzy3 (8365)
1 Jun 09
You need a written contract so you can show him,if you think he is really trying to cheat you.sit him down and talk to him.or he could just be absent minded,get things organised write your hours down and show him.or wait for another opportunity to come along.All this must be awful for his wife people coming and going.You are talking a lot of money short be careful ,don't be taken for a ride.
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@marciascott (25555)
• United States
1 Jun 09
I did write the hours down and he told me I can't count. He paid me and I told him oh no this isn't right. Then he said well we didn't discussion what the paid was going to be for night shift. I don't think it is fair what he did.
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@marciascott (25555)
• United States
3 Jun 09
Jobs are hard to come by at the moment, so I will be there. untill I find something else, it really isn't that bad, we just didn't have good communication.
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@jayrene (2713)
• Philippines
1 Jun 09
i would tell him about the payment we had agreed at the beginning... that's really not nice when a boss does that. if something like that happened to me, i will tell him about the short, and say i need it... i will ask for a written agreement if he still wants me to work for him, that is next time if he gives me incomplete payment again i will show it to him to remind him of what we had agreed on. if he's still not playing fair, i will just resign.
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@marciascott (25555)
• United States
1 Jun 09
I think that is what happened to the Other Lady, she just quit all of a such, now he keeps mobing around saying, he don't know what happen why did she leave, I believe this is the reason. I am going to get a written ageement tonight he has round the clock care for his wife.
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• Canada
1 Jun 09
First of all, I'd get it in writing and signed by myself and the boss, before agreeing to anything. Then if something were to come up and plans were to change, I'd let the person know that I had a contract, and that we had an agreement. I would not allow myself to enter into such an agreement without first putting it into writing.
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@marciascott (25555)
• United States
1 Jun 09
I will be going to work at 9:00pm, I will tell him to lets get it in writing. He wants to give me what he wants to give me but it is not going to happen. He told me he didn't want me to quit, well I think he should get it together right now.
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@suzzy3 (8365)
3 Jun 09
You have got to live as well,things cost money look for somewhere else.x
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@sanuanu (11238)
• India
2 Jun 09
This is wrong. I have not been treeted this way in my life yet. Whatever I have been told, I got it on my salary day. I think you better should threaten your doctor that you will resign if he will not keep up to his words. I think since you are a good nurse, the doctors will be threatened and give you the money. If he doesn't better start looking for another opportunity!
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@catdla1 (6005)
• United States
2 Jun 09
The other girl quitting may or may not have had anything to do with money. Plus, you can't be concerned with what happens to some one else, worry about you. Is this the first time this has happened? From the amount, I think he may have transposed some numbers. I would tactfully bring it to his attention that you think this is what happened. I'm sure he's under stress with an ailing wife. If he insists that the amount is correct, ask him to show you how he arrived at the amount. You can soften the request by saying that it might be your own error. As he shows you what he did, either you will see his error (and hopefully he will too), or you will see where you calculated wrong. By the way, did you ever get a new car, or did you end up fixing your old one?
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@marciascott (25555)
• United States
3 Jun 09
I just found out that, He pays more during the day shift, if I am working night shift he pays me less, but he should of discuss that with me at first, don't wait till you get ready to pay me and then tell me that. I think that was wrong. Don't you? No the Motor went out, My Husband and I are going to pick up a Car today, around 1:00pm. It is a very old Car but I will have transpertion. It will do untill I can get better Car. I just found out that we will be working 12 hr. shift, days pay more and nights pay less. I would rather work days if that is the case, he should of discuss that with me at first, don't wait untill you pay me and then tell me about it that wasn't fair at all.
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@catdla1 (6005)
• United States
3 Jun 09
I agree with you on this one. Night shifts usually pay more, I've never heard of them paying less. Most people who choose a night shift do so because of the extra money (shift differential) for it. Perhaps this miserly retired doctor should cover the night shift himself.
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@marciascott (25555)
• United States
3 Jun 09
I do get to sleep though that is why it is cheaper at night, so I guess I shouild complain, I am lucky to have the Job.
@coffeebreak (17820)
• United States
2 Jun 09
Get it in writing at the git-go! NEver again will I accept someones "word" on a business transaction. Anything with money is a business transaction to me. Granted friends are a little different, but non -related... never never never. I was at a job and the boss had a contest each month...prize was a 3 day cruise to Ensenada Mexico. I won it. Included in that was friday and monday as paid days - 1/2 day on friday as the ship left at 6pm and all day on Monday as the ship didn't release passengers until noon on monday. So I went and come back and about 6 months later was doing some time with my vacation time I had built up and I had my days... but she had hers... according to her.. the Fri/Mon were NOT paid days off...I either used my vacation days or got docked the pay. She said she had expected me to be there half day both days. I told her, no that wasn't the deal with the contest, and if it was.. why didn't you say something about it when I came back? Of course she didn't answer that and just said..use your days or be docked. I wrote out right then and there the numbers of days I had at the beginning and noted which ones were used for what activity and then had her sign the paper agreeing to how many vacation days I had left for the year. OF course.. she just initialed it with really careless set of initial that if I didn't know her writing, it could have been said that wasn't her writing. But me.. the trusting person I am... nah, that won't happen! A year later I quit and turned that in paper to be paid for my outstanding vacation days, again, her days were less than mine.. I turned in that paper and she said.. no, she didn't initial that - that's not her handwriting.. she would have wrote out her name,not initial a document like that. She, of course, had no recollection of having even had that conversation with me! OF course, I lost 2 days vacation pay. Now.. it is in writing and FULL signatures! IF you want to keep the job at the salary he is paying... write and sign. If not, then you will have to quit. But remember.,.. the State Labor Board in your city ( protects employees from crappy employers!) ... if he doesn't pay you what you agreed on... you take that written contract of what he agreed your salary would be and copies of your check stubs showing he didn't pay you that agreed amount, and take it to the Labor Board and they will get you your money...been there several times..works very well.. if you have documented proof.
@marciascott (25555)
• United States
2 Jun 09
Well, that wasn't right, I know from now on I will get things documented. he swears up and down that he told me what he was going to pay me for night, he ask what I charged I told him. He has 12 hour Shifts. if you work days he pays you more money, if nights the pay is less. I am beginning to understand it now though. there is really nothing to do at night but check on his wife, most of the time she sleeps all night, I thought about it after I talked to him. that I guess it does makes since that he pays me less, because I do get to sleep, as long as I am seeing about her. And she sleeps all night most of the time. I was upset at first, but after I talked to him last night he explained everything. By the way he pays me Cash.
@coffeebreak (17820)
• United States
2 Jun 09
I can see that night would be less work..ergo less pay. but still... just take the blame yourself and say "oaky let's write this out so we make sure we both understand" or something like that. Never know when a miscommunication will happen again. Even pull a calendar page and write the night vs. day shifts and something like blue is nights and pink is days and the amounts for each... tell him it is so the last thing you have to be thinking about is the schedule... you just want to make sure your attentions are on his wife. I have done that too -- play the stupid card to cover myself in the future. Better safe than sorry!
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@stephcjh (32328)
• United States
2 Jun 09
That would make me so mad if that happened to me. I would write down your hours each day you work and then have him initial it each time. He cannot short you if he already singed that he knew you worked those hours or days.
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@marciascott (25555)
• United States
3 Jun 09
Of course it would make anyone mad, I believe that is why the other Girl quit because of the Money thing. You just don't do that to people.
@KrauseHome (34983)
• United States
2 Jun 09
Sounds almost like someone I tried working for around 15 months ago. I was offered a job to live in the home, and help take care of the husband, cook, etc. for him until at least when his wife came home. She had had major surgery, etc. and was in a Nursing home for a bit. I ended up only getting about 1/4 of what was originally guaranteed upon, and was regretting ever trying to help them out for sure. Hope your situation ends up better for you, or you might end up having to leave it as well.
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@marciascott (25555)
• United States
2 Jun 09
No I don't think I will leave. He pays me in Cash. and I kind of like my hours, 3 or 4 with 12 hours shift. So I had a taalk with him everything is fine now.
@Polly1 (12650)
• United States
2 Jun 09
I would discuss with him how many hours he wanted you to be there and how much he was paying per hour. Make sure you keep track of the days and hours that you spent working. Maybe you can both have a calender and make sure they both match up for each day. Good luck Marcie, $45 is alot of money.
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@marciascott (25555)
• United States
2 Jun 09
I had a good talk with Doctor last night. so everything is Ok, It is just that I know what to expect now. I just got off this morning, I am working 12 hr. Shift, maybe 3 or 4 dys a week. Have a good day.
@JoyfulOne (6242)
• United States
5 Jun 09
I don't know, but I think this is one of those times I'd make sure and get it in writing, especially if his memory is poor. That's a shame! Maybe you can have another one of his family members present and then come to an agreement with them there and get it down in writing and signed and dated. At least that way you'd have proof to show him when he forgets. That's rough when that kind of thing happens! I do hope it works out for you though.
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@marciascott (25555)
• United States
9 Jun 09
Yes, it is a shame, but I think it will all work out, I had to go to work last night form 6:30 to 9:00am I just got off this morning, Like today I gave him my bill it goes you worked such and such of hours, I said yes you are right. He pays me Cash which is good.
@marciascott (25555)
• United States
9 Jun 09
Yes, I meant to tell you I take care of his Wife, they leave in Shaker. It is a very easy Job. and his wife is so sweet, she will try to help you. she can't talk they are from Eypt.
• Philippines
2 Jun 09
wow is that a joke! if not, thenit's the craziest thing that i have ever heard. I hope i don't experience that in future work, because it might lead to abuse of the employer if such proposal is allowed. if he's a retired doctor he should be taking care of his wife instead of you, it's his job for christ sake!
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@marciascott (25555)
• United States
2 Jun 09
He can't take care of her, he is a Senior Citizen. and he has round the clock care with her. He take care or his wife very good though. As far as having the help that she needs. thanks for your input.
• Philippines
10 Jun 09
You should tell your employer to stick to the agreement. Otherwise, pack your bags. If you rendered the service that was due him, you should be paid what you deserve. You can always contact your Labor Relations or report this to a government agency that handles labor issues.
@skysuccess (8882)
• Singapore
2 Jun 09
marciascott, I believe a letter of appointment stating your job scope, remuneration and compensation is the least your employer should have given you in the first place. You may ask him for it and till then you will need to do your clock-in as required according to the establishment's protocol, so that if there is a dispute there will be a clearly stated proof of work hours. Please do take special attention that the letter is drafted with the legal and recognized by laws of your local labor authority and workers' union. Anything short or vaguely accepted and signed on your part will make you liable for any unrepresentable disputes. So do be careful before you place your signature on that letter document. Take care and have a good day at work.