The Tower of Babel and the European Union...connected?

Thank you very much Debra, for the detailed explanations, the links you have given me to explore the same in greater depth, and above all, to help me look at it from both perspectives- Jewish and Christian. Genesis that is it! I will read the whole thing once again, from NIV and the Gideons.If you are curious to know from what background I am looking at it, I will post it next time round- if you are that is.

I am not trying to be mean here just pressed for time. Genesis is not a huge book...I'm sure you can locate the story easily enough. As for not being happy with the symbolism; yes...they are OUR scriptures and since this story is in the Torah, the Jews have first claim, so to speak. Why not go ask a Rabbi just what is meant?

http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/246611/jewish/The-Tower-Of-Babel.htm Conceit of the People It was towards the end of Peleg’s life that something happened which changed the social life of all men on earth. After the Flood, man had again begun to multiply and fill the earth. They all spoke one language and understood one another well. The generations of people before the Flood had been interested only in themselves; they thought of themselves as supermen and lived each one for himself alone; they used violence and force against their weaker neighbors, paying no attention to laws and rules. The new generation of mankind was different. They stressed the opposite code of living. The individual did not count for himself; he counted only as part of the community, and he had to subject his own interests to those of the group. Had they confined themselves to this kind of social life, all might have been well. But they overdid it. The tremendous strength that grew out of their organization and goodwill made them proud, and their pride made them turn against G-d. They decided to build a tower which was to reach to heaven, to make them equal to G-d, and at the same time, to make it possible for them to stay together. This symbol of their divine strength, as they thought, was to be built in the valley of the Land of Shinear. Their Punishment G-d decided to destroy their arrogance by destroying their ability to understand one another. He, therefore, confused the people by splitting them up into seventy different nations and tribes, each with a language of its own, (hence the name Babel, meaning “confusion”). When this happened, the project of the Tower had to be given up. The various groups migrated in different directions and settled in all parts of the world. The Tower itself was partly burned and partly swallowed by the earth. And from the Christian perspective: http://www.tribulation.com/towerbab.htm God had commanded the sons of Noah after the flood to go into the world and populate it. Genesis 9:1 The purpose of the Tower was to create a religous and governmental rallying point lest the people be scattered. It is the willfulness of mankind in wanting to be in charge, and his desire to rule over rather than be ruled by (the LORD) that is behind the building of the Tower of Babel. God nullifies the counsel of nations; He frustrates the plans of the peoples. Psalm 33:10

You know I agree with much of your sentiment, but deep research into Luciferianism/the Illuminati would show both strong Vatican involvement and the involvement of your Israeli friends. Are you aware, of the beliefs espoused in the Talmud regarding your Saviour and his mother? Sorry, I'm shaking my head, much of the very evil you are talking about is coming straight from some of those you are suggesting are marginalized. I won't go on with my many historical and cultural discoveries made over the past couple of years because I'm certain it would be picking a fight--one I don't want with one who is in most circumstances a potential ally and fellow spiritualist... But be willing to accept the possibility that you've been fed many lines of dung, and accept, if you need this metaphor, the power of Lucifer to be very beautiful and appealling... Be careful you don't side with evil in its beautiful presentation.

That our generation has entered into the last days is without doubt. All the signs outlined in Mat. 24 are happening everywhere. Famines, wars, frequency of earthquakes among others. There was an article I read about the comparative study made on the frequency of earthquakes decades ago and the present. Occurences of earthquakes before were few and far between but nowadays it is a daily occurence and the frequency continues to increase. The earth and the universe are not going to exist forever. Even changes in the sun's behavior is noted. Astronomical and planetary observations point to that fact that everything is moving towards to that end. Is it possible that this is what the Bible speaks of stars falling from heaven? We are observing too the intense heat we feel around the world. This is just a prelude of that day when not only heat but fire will actually burn everything of what we know today as earth. Then the Son of Man will come as a thief in the night. Cheers!

Hi manong. There is no actual picture of the Tower of Babel, this is true. The EU parliment building was based on a painting of the famed tower, an artists conception. You are right to see that it is from prophecy in Revelation that the connection is based. There are many things I see in the world that convince me that this prophecy is being fulfilled in our times. The main ones are these: Technology exists to 'mark' the populace and control their buying and selling. There is an strong, concerted effort to discredit the Christian worldview. An increase in knowledge unpresidented in history. The European Union, the proposed American Union and Asain Union...The push for a World Bank. The push for a world government. Increased anti semitism. Israel marginalized and demonized. Obama's rise to power out of nowhere, people willing to 'worship' him as a savior. Increase in weather phenomonom. Increase in earthquake and volcanic activity. Famines, and pestilence...manmade? Increase in war around the globe. Jesus said these would be like birth pangs....increasing in severity and intensity. Just a few reasons to wonder if we are entering the last days.

This was interesting from the first link: To conclude The European Union is a superstate that currently includes 27 countries (more in the future). The same faith awaits American and Asian countries, who are bound to unite under the same flag and currency to create other superstates. Those are the building blocks towards a Single World Government, a goal actively sought by the world elite. The EU Parliament is the first monument representing a superstate and reveals, through its intense symbolism, hatred of religion, plans for a New World Order and their subtle endorsement of tyranny.

The euro-med link was fascinating. I am of the opinion that lucifer has not one original thought, but uses half-truths and twisted truths of the Creator God to his own purpose. It all sounds so reasonable and right; brotherhood, oneness, love and peace. But in the end is tyranny and slavery. I can see clearly where anyone who will not bow down and worship the beast will be hated and killed as an enemy of 'humanity'. Thank you for the link and I am now ever more convinced that Revelation is being fulfilled every day.

You do well to pray David...so many are caught up in this day and age... in the rebellion against God that has characterized all of human history. It is becoming more flagrant and more determined as each day passes. I have a great site for understanding the book of Revelation if you are interseted. Let me know by message and I will send it to you. I encourage you to see it as a way to understand those of us who ARE 100% sure...

It would be nice for humans to actually get along well enough to pull it off - but we know that won't happen. So, yes...it would HAVE to be totalitarian. People don't want to accept that man is NOT basically selfless, instead, humans are basically selfish. Not to say that individuals cannot be or aren't capable of selflessness...only that the majority do not work for the benefit of all. Greed and lust and hate continue to be a major human trait. As for the symbolism of the building....I think they understood it. And I think that is why they chose it. Men down through history have tried repeatedly to 'rule the world' and our present problems and the threat of the new world order is just that. Except now we have the technology for it to be pulled off. Only in America is their denial of this NWO...even though our politicians have been using the term for some time.

I didn't say nor imply it was a sin. I was trying to show the connection between then and now. Those who would rule mankind...have not changed their goals or their strategies. What the sin is in this whole matter has nothing to do with the building. The building is a symbol of man wanting to rule...to have power....to subjegate his fellow man and rise to the status of a god.

Thank you Aliceinwebland.