Do you think it is possible for someone to know they are dying

@venshida (4836)
United States
December 12, 2009 5:01pm CST
My dad is really sick. He has cancer. He had it twice before, and treatment was successful. Well, eight months ago his cancer returned. He started chemo, but his eating habits got real bad. He had no appetite, and refuse to eat. The doctor told him he need to eat or else he might die in a couple of months. He has refuse to eat, and is telling everyone goodbye. I don't understand. He lays in his bed ninety percent of the time. He seems to have given up. I think he should eat and try to live. How do you handle something like this? I know I need to accept it, but it is so hard.
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@swirlz (3136)
• Philippines
13 Dec 09
I think your father is just depressed. My father has had stroke 4 years ago that left him partially paralyzed. Up to this day, there would be instances that he would stop eating and just stay at his bed all day. We get really worried, but getting him enthusiastic works. Although, that would be a pretty difficult job. Goodluck. I hope things would work out fine.
@venshida (4836)
• United States
18 Dec 09
You are right, he was depressed. After I posted this thread, my sister took him to the doctor, and he was diagnose as depressed. He is now taking medications for this condition, and his appetite has increase slightly.
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@swirlz (3136)
• Philippines
15 Jan 10
Hey, thanks for the best response. It's good to know that he's recovering now. Have a nice day!
@carolbee (16230)
• United States
15 Dec 09
I know it's hard and I send my prayers. Could he be depressed? I do think people have that inner feeling when they know they are about to depart if they are mentally alert. Some give up and others just fight to the end. I don't think my parents knew since they both suffered from Alzheimer's disease. My mother-in-law was alert and think she knew it was all over. Thinking about you and your family, carolbee
@venshida (4836)
• United States
18 Dec 09
Actually my sister, and I came to the conclusion it was depression. We discuss it with his doctors, and he is now taking medications for his symptoms. He is not eating much, but he is trying.
@sid556 (30960)
• United States
13 Dec 09
Hi venshida, I'm so sorry to hear about your dad. I know how hard it is to watch someone you love fade away. Spend all the time that you can with him while you still have him. Life is so precious and you really just never know. It does sound as if he is just tired of the battle. I know that for some the quality of life is more important that extending the life and being on so many meds that they aren't enjoying it. Is it possible that he knows more than what he is telling you? Again, I am so sorry that you are going thru this.
@venshida (4836)
• United States
18 Dec 09
We always take him to the doctor, and my sister is a RN so we know what type of treatment etc. You are right about how precious life is, and we are trying to make every day count.
• Malaysia
13 Dec 09
Owh, I'm so sorry about your dad's condition, Venshida. I understand how you feel because we have been nursing our late grandma a few years ago and it's hard, but we knew it long before that her health was deteriorating. I think it's quite possible that someone knows that s/he is dying. When my late uncle was dying, he told her daughter that he needed to see all his family members before he passed away. Not to mention about my late grandma, great grandma... So, in times like this, what we should do is not to scold the sick person and force him or her to eat. We must let her/him feel that we give her/him the best of our attentions. Yes, it seems that your dad has given up hopes. Since the doctor mentioned that he needs to eat well, maybe you can seek out for the doctor's help to talk to your dad. How hard it may be to accept, there is nothing much you can do except to be there for him and be prepared emotionally for the worst to happen, but sometimes, miracles do happen. Just be strong in each passing day and I hope that you dad will recover soon.
@venshida (4836)
• United States
18 Dec 09
Thanks for the kind word, the doctor talk to him it did not work.
• Mexico
13 Dec 09
Hi venshida: it's really sad the situation you are telling us but i think that there's a moment when a person knows for a reason that it's time to say goodbye and i think we have to respect their decition. The only think you can do it's talk with your dad just to know what are his feelings right now and why does he want to go but as i say, you must respect his decition and don't try to make him change his mind if that's what he really wants. So sad, hope you are ok. I give you all my blessings. -Alvaro.
@venshida (4836)
• United States
18 Dec 09
It is sad, but you know it's part of life. I am spending as much time as possible with him. I think that is better than anything else in this world.
• India
13 Dec 09
hi Venshida yes i have gone through a same situation when my grandfather was ailing from Acute TB and i was seeing him die every day...the doctors had given him the ultimate the he wouldn't live for many days/his days are counted...
@venshida (4836)
• United States
18 Dec 09
I think it is terrible that a doctor tells you how much longer you have to live. It is really difficult seeing the one you love wither away.
@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
13 Dec 09
Hello Venshida I am sorry that your Dad is that ill Yes he should fight, but maybe he believes he has no chance no matter whether he eats or not I can only suggest that you keep trying to get him to eat but yes I believe People know when they are dying, well most People do and they will not say It has to be hard for you and I wish your Dad would fight and try to eat I really hope that he changes his mind and starts to eat, just keep trying that is all you can do Tell him how much you love him and that you want him to be around it might help I am so sorry you are going through this terrible time
@venshida (4836)
• United States
18 Dec 09
Well, he is still not eating, but he is excited about the holidays. I plan to cook all his favorite dishes this year.
@lelin1123 (15595)
• Puerto Rico
13 Dec 09
You don't say how old he is, but I believe when a person is sick they know when their time is coming to a close. I feel they sense it and that is when they start to give up. The appetite is a big clue. Once they lose that its hard to regain when you are that sick. He probably is feeling there is nothing else left and just wants to speed the process. I think losing a child and or a parent is the worse thing that we all have to go thru unfortunately. I think about this all the time when it comes to my parents knowing that they have lived a long life and their time on earth is limited. Its scary thinking about it. I just hope I will be able to handle it when the time comes. I think pray and being there for him is all you can do at this time. Best of luck to you and your family at this time.
@venshida (4836)
• United States
18 Dec 09
How true, he feels there is nothing else left. He say it all the time.
@xannebull (1793)
• Philippines
13 Dec 09
I am so sorry to hear this sorrowful event in your life venshida, i know how hard it is seeing your loved one dying especially your father. I think that he is suffering enough and he'd like to give up because of the sufferings in his body. He didn't mean to not liking to eat food because he looses his appetite anymore. You just have to pray with all your heart and ask GOd to help your father alive.
@venshida (4836)
• United States
18 Dec 09
Yea , we pray a lot for him. What help is taking him for walks etc. He perks up a little bit.
@kaylachan (60552)
• Daytona Beach, Florida
12 Dec 09
I think what is so hard is that the person is making the concious decision to die. They have already lived a real good long life, and feel there is no other reason to keep going. You can only go through treatment and remission and relapse before your body says "I've had enough". What is happening, and I know this is hard to here, but I'm going to say it anyway. Is that your family member doesn't want to go through the ring of treatments. They are tired of the cycle of cancer, remission, relapse, remission, relapse. It would continue until eventually his body gave out, or not. He is ready to get everything over with he wants to go on. Think for a second of what might be going on in his body. Its worn out its constantly fighting this battle. He knows this. I was so angary at my dad when I was told about him developing lung cancer. i was even more angery when he refused treatment. But, I understood not right away at first, but I understood. He had been terminally ill my entire life batteling one thing after another. A year before he lost his wife, my mother, to her own problems, and he was ready to join her. He had done the hard part, see me get through high school and he knew that he had raised me enough to protect me from my sisters. He didn't have to do it anymore. I eventually understood and i respect it. This family member has simular reasons even if you don't like them.
@venshida (4836)
• United States
18 Dec 09
Well said, reading your post helps since you have experience a similar situation.
@honey023 (57)
• Philippines
12 Dec 09
Hi good day!!! I think it is possible. All people will die, let's just accept the fact. We know its hard and very painful. But, let me ask you this, do you still want your father to experience the feeling of chemo even if he cannot handle it anymore? Or just let him rest!!! Just treasure the moments that you and your father are spending now, because im telling you that you're gonna miss that one!!! Tell everything your father must know so that in the end, you will became free!!! Godbless
@venshida (4836)
• United States
18 Dec 09
Treasure the moment is key, and it is what we are doing now.
@fsll518 (304)
• China
12 Dec 09
I think everybody can have that kind of feeling when their "time" is coming, but some people just try to neglect that feeling. Some people are more rational (like your father) and try to arrange things. The best policy is try to let him feel you all treat him nicely and you all want him to be alive. He became pessimistic or giving up maybe because he doesn't want to become a burden to the whole family. Then you just need to show you are happy to serve him and see him getting better everyday. Does he listen to doctor? If yes, then maybe let the doctor convince him to be cooperative.
@venshida (4836)
• United States
18 Dec 09
Well, you are right he does not want to be a burden, but he said the main thing is the constant pain.
• United States
12 Dec 09
Yeah I really do think some people just know. They know they are releasing their bodies to the fact that they are going to die. Maybe they need to do it because it is more peaceful for them that way. We will never really know until we are there ourselves. A lot of times I don't think it's just that they're giving up, I think it's that they're accepting the inevitable so they don't have to go out fighting. Wouldn't you rather the last expression on his face be one of peace and not angst? That said, it's probably a THOUSAND times harder for you to lose him than it is for him to let go. He has been fighting mentally, physically, emotionally, against this thing ravaging inside his body. He is probably tired. You, on the other hand, are losing someone you love, that you have probably had to be strong for. You are the one who will be left in this thing we call life. It is SO okay for you to grieve and shake fists at the sky, even while your dad seems to be in another world entirely. It is going to be a long road for you, but you will make it, even if it sucks. I hope it eases up for you.
@venshida (4836)
• United States
18 Dec 09
You are right, we understand that but it is hard.
• Canada
13 Dec 09
yes take it lika man! spend time with him
@venshida (4836)
• United States
18 Dec 09
Take it like a man, don't quite get it. We are spending time with him.