What IS the message from the upset in Massachusettes?

United States
January 22, 2010 6:09pm CST
Is it that Martha Coakley ran a lousy campaign? Was it the flood of money for Brown at the tail end? Is it a message to Obama? Against Healthcare? Did the Democrats just stay home? Were they just depressed about the Patriots being out of the playoffs? Your thoughts?
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@Taskr36 (13928)
• United States
23 Jan 10
Well Democrats have turned many in this country against them by shutting out 40% of the people representing the citizens of this country. In effect, they're telling 40% of the people who pay their salary that what they want means absolutely nothing to them. Even if you shut out ONE senator your effectively telling 350,000 to 18 million people that you don't give a crap about them and that they deserve no voice in their own government. It's not just about health care, but about the totalitarian behavior by the democrats in congress and in the White House that are willing to dismiss their constituents and bribe their peers to be sure that nobody outside of their party is involved in the legislative process. Paired with that is the fact that Coakley was a VERY weak candidate with a horrible record both as district attorney and attorney general. We're talking about a woman who didn't even pursue a case where a police officer raped his own 23 month old daughter with a curling iron. The man wasn't tried and convicted until her successor took over as district attorney. I believe he is now serving 2 life sentences. Also, Democrats did just stay home. Democrats always have lower turnout than republicans since many are young, lazy and apathetic. That's even more evident in an off year election. In Massachusetts, 50% of the voters are actually independent and Scott Brown was very popular among them.
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@xfahctor (14114)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
23 Jan 10
It was a combination of things. TaskR covered it prett well so i don't have too much to add to it. Over all it was a message that people are sick of establishment politicians. they are sick of establishment republicans, they are sick of establishment democrats and they are sick of an ever growing and unconstitutionaly over reaching federal government. The message was simply this. Attention Washington DC, we have had enough, you refused to listen, so now we are comming for you to carry you out of the halls of government and deposit you on your assses on the sidewalk. this is the first shot in the peacefull revolution. I pray it follows through and works, because I don't even want to think about the revolution that may inevitably come if it doesn't.
• United States
23 Jan 10
How do YOU tell the establishment politicians from the non-establishment ones?
@xfahctor (14114)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
23 Jan 10
Pretty easy, since there are probably only 2 or 3 who aren't establishment politicians, lol. Dennis kusinich seems to be a fairly honorable fellow, I'm on the fence with Michell Bachman...she's a nut but doesn't seem to be too bad..of course Ron Paul is probably the best one in congress over all, hmmm...they are few and far between. I look to see if their ideals reflect those of the consitution and the libertarian principals we were founded on. Those who pass laws just for the sake of passing laws, those who seem to always be in lock step in word and action with the rest of the group think, those who seem to think they know better than you how to live your life, those who seem to only be after more power...those who have no intgerest in reading what they vote for, those who dont want YOU to read what they are voting for, those who take bribes from congressional leadership...those are the ones you want to purge from the system.
@Taskr36 (13928)
• United States
24 Jan 10
I agree with the three you mentioned. There are probably more, but I haven't been able to find any. The only thing I can say from what I've seen is that with the possible exception of Scott Brown, there are ZERO senators that are not establishment politicians including those currently serving their first term.
@artistry (4154)
• United States
24 Jan 10
...Hi there valentinesdiner, Two main messages, I think can be taken away from the Massachusetts race. Number one, you can't sit there and think a 20 point lead is enough to carry you to victory, unkess that 20 point lead is measured on the day of the election. Ms Coakley took the electorate for granted and they taught her a well deserved lesson. Work for the vote. She had 19 town hall meetings, reportedly after the primary and Mr. Brown had 60. Do we need to do the math? She didn't campaign, she put her name on the ballot and expected an automatic win because she was a Democrat. Nr. Brown worked his butt off, he wanted the seat, she did not act as though she did. Poor candidate, poor, pitiful result. Secondly, the Republicans have articulated the negatives against the health care bill better than the Dems have laid out the positives. So much so, that the people think the change will cost so much money it will break the bank. That is not true. The CBO(Congressional Budget Office) scored the bill, it will save billions of dollars over a ten year period and more thereafter. But does anybody know that or believe that, no, it has been drowned out by the right. Effective proganda. Lastly Masachusetts has it's health care system in tact, they don't want to pay for anyone elses', Mr. Brown led that charge, he was their hero, he won their vote. He has two years to prove they chose the right man, no pun intended. Take care.
@missybal (4492)
• United States
23 Jan 10
I'm going to have to say it's about balancing power. No one party should be in a super majority in my opinion. The Republicans and even more importantly the Democrat and Republican fiscal conservatives have had no voice in Washington. Considering the fact that the Democrat congress has passed a lot of very unpopular bills that the majority of people are against based on polls with nothing to stop them or even force a debate unless it's within their own party,(forgive my run on sentence) but there is an abuse of power of a greater extreme than we have ever seen in our government. When the president ignored the million plus tea party patriots in America and tells us he doesn't care what the majority of Americans think he's going to do what he thinks needs done he seals his own fate along with many of the Democrat politicians. This Congress has a 25% approval rating, Obama's is dropping as well. The people have had it... and it was the independent vote that really spoke. I believe also Brown received 20% of the Democrat votes. Those would be fiscal Democrats.
@clrumfelt (5427)
• United States
23 Jan 10
Ms. Coakley was going to be a rubber stamp in the Senate for liberal ideas and people are ready for CHANGE. Obama coming to town for her was another strike against her, and insulting people's sports and trucks didn't help either.