you are what you eat...

@jb78000 (15139)
February 23, 2010 12:23pm CST
...or rather judged by what you eat. humans view animals in odd ways sometimes and i have noticed that big meateaters (tigers, eagles) are admired, little carnivores seen as sneaky (foxes, weasels) herbivores seen as thick (cattle) and animals with a diet similar to our own, omnivores, generally disliked but admitted to be bright (rats, pigs, other primates), scavengers (e.g.vultures) are often seen as repulsive. of course this is an exteme generalisation but why do you think people do this?
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@urbandekay (18278)
23 Feb 10
Anthropomorphisation, thinks I all the beast urban
@urbandekay (18278)
23 Feb 10
Well, what I mean is that it is a human tendency to impute human qualities on non-human things. Primitive cultures imbue the wind, chance, volcanoes, springs and other things with human personalities. Even in the modern day we personalise cars, ships and trains and some even do it with their hoovers, washing machines and computers. It should come as no big surprise then that we do the same to beasts. That's what I meant, perhaps it adds something, perhaps not, no concern of mine. Having said that, sheep are particularly stupid all the beast urban
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@jb78000 (15139)
23 Feb 10
urban you sometimes make sense and then you are rude elsewhere. in this caes you are spot on.
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@jb78000 (15139)
23 Feb 10
urban, i have nothing against you but why do you feel that adds anything? apart from showing than you have been spending way too much time in politics central and have picked up their english.
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
23 Feb 10
I'm a fish. I eat big fish, little fish, frogs, small reptiles and nasty fishermen's spinners!
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@owlwings (43915)
• Cambridge, England
23 Feb 10
Does that make you a cannonball? I mean, a fish eating fish ... and I don't doubt that you like a bit of crumpet (called 'pikelets' in some parts of the country).
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
23 Feb 10
I always thought that a pikelet and a crumpet were slightly different things. No idea what the difference is though.
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@jb78000 (15139)
24 Feb 10
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@zed_k4 (17589)
• Singapore
23 Feb 10
Sure, we are always judged by what we eat. That's for sure, Jb.. when someone's not eating well, some would think that perhaps diet, a broken heart or a suffering a sickness. When eating a lot, either being happy, stressed, also perhaps suffering from a broken heart and plainly addicted to food. We even judge people by the food they eat. Some, not all.. like well, so and so loves eating ice-cream from the restaurant only and not anywhere else. Yikes, why that's so.... or you have instances like so and so only buys groceries from this supermarket, to get discounts always. Sometimes animals have it better than us humans..
@zed_k4 (17589)
• Singapore
1 Mar 10
Assumptions on food.. so true. I used to have a thin friend but he can really eat.. if you know what I mean..
@jb78000 (15139)
1 Mar 10
well i know we make assumptions when somebody is eating more or less than they usually do. i think this is reasonable though - if somebody is hardly eating anything or is guzzling their way through litres of icecream then something is probably wrong. we make other judgements about diet too though - for example somebody who eats only the same things all the time might be seen as boring.
@jb78000 (15139)
2 Mar 10
me too. i am pretty small but do eat an awful lot, just because of hunger though. if i saw most people eating what i eat i'd be tempted to ask them what was wrong... incidentally my brother is taller and although not skinny not in the least plump and he eats enough for a small army. every hour on the hour. genes we think.
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@wmraul (2552)
• Bucharest, Romania
23 Feb 10
First of all, I doubt vultures are seen as repulsive. In fact it was used often as symbol of greatness or something on many flags and arms ... On the oter hand, if I like to eat grilled wild boar filled with bear ribs and tigers back legs muscle ... how am I ?
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@jb78000 (15139)
23 Feb 10
somebody banned for life from that zoo?
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@Torunn (8609)
• Norway
23 Feb 10
I'm a cup of tea? The tea's quite OK, but I'm not sure I want to be the cup. It's bright yellow with a two very ugly lemons painted on it ... Maybe we want to do the same with animals as we do with people, make nice little sterotypes for them so that we know what to expect. As for herbivores, once you've tried to make a bunch of sheep get of the road, you don't need any stereotypes anymore. White, fluffy, stupid things. No wonder they get eaten when they let them run free in the forrest.
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@owlwings (43915)
• Cambridge, England
23 Feb 10
Sheep don't inhabit forests ... maybe you knew that. There is a sheep behind every tree ... watching ... watching and waiting ...
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@Torunn (8609)
• Norway
23 Feb 10
Oh they do, they shouldn't, but they do. Sometimes I wonder how they avoid getting stuck in the spruce ...
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@Torunn (8609)
• Norway
23 Feb 10
You're a white sheep? My guess was multi-coloured with flashing lights ... Or are you one of those white sheep lying down in the middle of the road and refusing to budge when a car comes?
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@pandaeyes (2065)
23 Feb 10
The way in which they gather their food is the key I think. The fierce big cats seem brave and strong as they go in for the kill. The cow just stands in the field chewing on grass not bothered about running away. Mice are little and scuttly and secretive because they would rather be the hunters than the hunted. The snake is stealthy or clever and surprises the prey otherwise it would avoid the slitherer in the first place. We I think are seen as industrious and forward planning .
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@jb78000 (15139)
23 Feb 10
nice points pandaeyes it is all to do with how you see another. of course big cats slink up on their food people fight bulls, because male animals often fight, bulls are cattle mice are naturally prey animals who run but will defend the little mice aggressively we are seen as dangerous by all the rest i think.
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• India
24 Feb 10
I think people categorize animals in this way coz in our own lives and societies we behave in exactly the same way with our fellow humans. People who are good at frontal attack, who are merciless, who tear apart the weak…are admired, the weak are always thought of as dumb and no-good, the poor are looked down as parasites and simply wished away while the scavengers (yes, you have them too, in many poor countries including my India) are to be kept at a safe distance (as if they spread some contagious diseases) though acknowledged as a very important and integral part of society in cleaning up our mess. And then you have the grand omnivores…yes very clever and resourceful but not liked at all…just like human nature…never appreciate openly somebody who’s resourceful enough to make a meal out of scraps….be jealous but don’t admit and admire.
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@jb78000 (15139)
20 Apr 10
i think that is definitely part of it
• Australia
23 Feb 10
Take two . . . first one wiped out. I must remember to copy before posting! I do admire your way of thinking and the interesting discussions you post, but I don't have a clue on this one. I can't say I've ever pidgeon-holed animals in that way. I admire lions and tigers for their majesty and eagles for their amazing flight abilities. I'm not sure what attracts to gorillas, but it could well be their human-like qualities. Some animals are just "cute" and some are hard to define the attraction - or detraction. Of course, there are some people who want to pidgeon-hole or compartmentalise everything in life - but why do we call them pidgeon-holes?
@jb78000 (15139)
25 Feb 10
i think with gorillas the attraction is partly because they are seen to be peaceful
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
23 Feb 10
OK if you're a rabbit, does that make you a cannibal? Bad Dawn... I have no idea, maybe it goes back to our hunter gatherer days...
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@jb78000 (15139)
23 Feb 10
i am a rabbit dawn. i don't eat meat, including the meat from other blue rabbits. i have plenty of ideas, all burble, but am actually interested in what other people/dragons/small fluffs think.
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@catdla1 (6005)
• United States
23 Feb 10
When I first read your title, I thought, "Woohoo, I'm a cookie!". Then I read further. I think that people's viewpoints on other creatures varies, depending on the personality or nature of the person who is classifying them. More aggressive people could share the viewpoints you list. Others may see the big meateaters as frightening (because they themselves may be eaten), little carnivores seen as cute (because they are not a threat), herbivores as gentle (deer, rabbits), respect (and agree on the intelligence) of omnivores (most of our pets, dogs and cats are omnivores), and scavengers are often seen as delicious (lobsters, clams, catfish, etc). Respect for the animal kingdom varies (including how we view other people), giving us Adolph Hitlers and Mother Theresas, big game hunters and PETA members. It's those who happen to fall at the extremes that are the most noticeable.
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@catdla1 (6005)
• United States
24 Feb 10
That would be an interesting pole-type email. Thankfully the answers don't have to start with the first letter of your last name. Yet. I'll be watching my email...lol
@jb78000 (15139)
25 Feb 10
rabbits are fierce
@jb78000 (15139)
24 Feb 10
i could make up a psychological test on this. describe the following animals in three words. tiger, dog, pig, antelope. minutes of fun
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@Sandra1952 (6047)
• Spain
23 Feb 10
I eat rabbit paella. What does that make me - apart from your natural enemy, of course.
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@owlwings (43915)
• Cambridge, England
23 Feb 10
The early names for Spain apparently derive from a word meaning 'Land of the Rabbit' (or something similar), so I can understand people making paella of rabbit when no fish is available.
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• Spain
23 Feb 10
Hello, Owlwings. That's interesting - I didn't know that. I do know about paella, though, as it originated in Valencia. The original paella, like a lot of Spanish food, was peasant food. Rice has been grown in Valencia since Moorish times, and they used to put rabbit, duck and snails with it for protein. Nearer the coast, they used fish, but the seafood paella people associate with Spain is actually something that was developed for the tourists. Spanish mamas tend to use rabbit and pork in their paellas. In our village, they make a giant rabbit and snail paella for our patron saint's festival, I can't bring myself to eat the snails, though. Our favourite local restaurant does a different paella every night as the first course. Last time we went, it was paella negra, with squid and squid ink to turn the rice black. Delicious!
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@jb78000 (15139)
24 Feb 10
poor little squiddies
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• Philippines
24 Feb 10
Well, we like stereotyping, I don't really know why, but that's human nature I guess. We tend to judge people, things or even animals in the way they are living their life, or how they look, or what kind of job they have..
@jb78000 (15139)
2 Mar 10
it is easier to understand the world if you put things in categories, which makes sense. it can get silly though and this is when you get stereotypes.
• Australia
23 Feb 10
Uhm I dont know I never really thought about it that way... but I guess reading what you are writing here makes sense. Maybe, human can relates to this animals. For example, little carnivores are viewed as sneaky, but in truth they really are sneaky. They have to be, otherwise they wont have chance to get meals as they have the disadvantage of being small. big meateaters are admired.. picture it that you are a tiger, you are strong, powerful, dangerous. If you are human with this characteristic, wouldnt you be admired too at some point ?
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@jb78000 (15139)
25 Feb 10
i think some people understand animals only in human terms. in fact we probably all do this to some extent.
• India
24 Feb 10
Yes ......Some naga sages eat flesh of human beings in Himalayas, they look like a wild animals.....I saw the recent telecast In TV, National Geographic chaneel about this. Some holy saints eat only fruits or vegetables, they look like a holy man.
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@jb78000 (15139)
9 Mar 10
well at least they do not look like holy carrots...seriously i think very ethical holy people will probably look like that on a vegan diet, but a bad person on the same diet would look rather different.
@hora_fugit (5862)
• India
28 Feb 10
What I know is I'm vegetable and I'm banana cause I eat those things. A good idea? Big meateaters..well they look big and strong. Don't know about sneaking ones, but they DO sneak as far as I have seen (courtesy Discovery) My knowledge is limited, so is veg supply here (rubbish!)
• India
7 Apr 10
I prefer to be vegetable. makes life simple.
@jb78000 (15139)
9 Mar 10
i am not sure you can be a vegetable AND a banana. make your mind up. personally i think better to be a banana, less crunchy but yellower, and sweeter
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31 Mar 10
a combination of fear, superiority, logic and instictual applying of our own human values to animals. big carnevores can eat us so we are afraid and as such respect them. little carnivores are working against their own size and are rarely seen catching their prey, so logically we see them as cunning and 'sneaky'. cows generally do little more than stay still, fart, belch and eat - what in a person we would generalise to an unintelligent slob. omnivores are like us and therefor we unconsciouslly consider them equal to a degree. this makes them rivals and we naturally dislike them whilst respecting their intellect. scavengers are like the typical scroungers of society who don't work, talk horribly and swear a lot, get into fights and rely on the rest of the country to pay for them to live. these are the sort of people we do not wsh to associate with and this view is passed on to animals such as vultures (obviously i'm stereotyping here, not all people who accept benefits are scum and most have genuine reasons and problems that i accept).
@jb78000 (15139)
20 Apr 10
so it's partly to do with our real relationship with these animals and partly projection then