Bad advice to members

United States
June 5, 2010 10:04am CST
Ok, I have to say it, I have seen a few people here lately posting some really bad advice the last one was just a few minutes ago when someone said a member had posted a duplicate post, well after looking at every single post about it, that they had a thread to, I didn't see the slightest bit of it being duplicated. I hate to say it but I am seeing more and more of this lately, I feel as though many of the members are saying things like this to newbies just so they will have there accounts deleted, and yes they are reporting them for these posts, which if Mylot would look, it isn't a duplicate. I think that members that are falsely reporting like that should have there own accounts either debited of 10 cents, every time, or after 3 times ban them. Are you getting tired of seeing people falsely reporting others, or even giving bad advice to new members, many of us have been here long enough to know, what is real and what isn't, Can you tell when someone is giving out the wrong info to a new member? Should we tell them they are wrong?
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@mafra4u (284)
• India
6 Jun 10
Newbies like me need good advice here, not bad! And i was lucky to get befriend some experienced mylotters as soon i joined here which has helped me a lot. It has made me understand how the whole system works. Although i have a long way to go, i think i am getting the hang of things, finally :)
• United States
6 Jun 10
You were very lucky, I also hope that no one gives you any bad advice here. I know many do, and it's not a good thing when that happens. Welcome to Mylot by the way.
@mysdianait (64064)
• Italy
6 Jun 10
Mafra is in good hands Those helping new users who take time to listen to the advice, are lucky too. Not always are our efforts appreciated.
@zralte (4186)
• India
5 Jun 10
OK, pmbhuntress09, I know you are posting this discussion about the response I have given to goldie77 on the topic of Readbud which is here. http://www.mylot.com/w/discussions/2329685.aspx It is a duplicate topic. It does not have to be word for word for it to be duplicate. Not every one writes the same way, the wordings might be different, but the gist of it and the questions are the same, then that makes it duplicated. For your information, I didn't report that to the admin seeing that the discussion starter is a newbie. I should, but I didn't. And if the discussion gets deleted, I don't get paid either. I am just trying to help her not violate the guidelines and may be help her earn more. Nothing more, nothing less. I could have just leave it as it is, thereby, not wasting my time. And I would have very much prefer it if you have discussed this matter with me in private messages. I am all for making myLot better, and if I give bad advice to anyone, I apologise. I am just trying to help.
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• United States
5 Jun 10
This is only one of the discussions and replies I have seen today, no yours is just a part of the problem, its not a duplicate, I hate to say it but you need to realize that just because someone else has an experience as some other member, it needs to be word for word to make it a duplicate. They were not even asking the same questions. Read all before coming to a conclusion. Look up trolls here on mylot and see how many different posts there are about them. Also look up the word Mylot and see how many posts there are about that word. Believe me they are not duplicates. 4 discussions were reported this morning. all of which I had left comments on, and they have already been deleted. None of which were duplicates, or even spamming. yet they were reported already. This is wrong when folks go in and say something is copied, or that it is a duplicate, because when they report the discussions, Mylot doesn't check to make sure, and we all lose cash.
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@mysdianait (64064)
• Italy
5 Jun 10
pmbhuntress I think you should go and read thw activity of our admin GoAskAlice before stating certain things as certain. When the users report a topic, a response or a comment, admins check BEFORE deleting and delete if there is indeed a violation. If there is not then they ignore the report. I was on some of the discussions that were deleted where you also responded and indeed ALL of them were deleted because each question could have found an answer in the FAQS. I knew that when I responded and was not in the least surprised to see notifications arrive. Last but not least, in the Guidelines we are told: "Make sure you search for existing topics before starting new discussions" http://www.mylot.com/o/guidelines.aspx
• United States
5 Jun 10
Yes, and have you done like I said Mysd and checked how many topics there are about Mylot? There are so many topics on it that its pitiful, and truthfully even if we check and our answer isn't there and we still post it, as the same name as some things, Yet worded different, then is that a violation? Not that I know of. Because it would be different. If they are now checking every post, then it sure as the heck has changed since last year.
@topffer (33297)
• France
5 Jun 10
Only an honest member will give you a response in a box here. He/she may be wrong : everybody can make an error : you know who he/she is and you are able to give a comment and to discuss. What I don't like here are trolls, tagging a discussion without saying a word with "reported" or "guidelines violation" -- Have you noticed that your discussion has been tagged "guideline violation" ? -- when violation of guidelines are not evident at all.
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• United States
5 Jun 10
I am sure someone reported it already. The reason why is because they don't like any of us discussing that someone may be wrong in giving advice, now give it a bit and my discussion will be deleted I am sure of that. They just don't like knowing they have done wrong things. Oh well, I figured some idiot would report it and tag it. I suppose that is all I need another old troll hanging around. This is why I quit Mylot for close to a year, because some members don't like being wrong and they will report anything they don't like.
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@TexLadyPj (1329)
• United States
5 Jun 10
Herro topffer Oh yes, one of discussions was deleted, said violation of guideline. I am very careful with my started discussions and my comments. I admit the FAQs are extensive and learning them at first read is next to impossible. I have started reading one section a day so I don't violate discussion rules by accident.
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• United States
5 Jun 10
I don't l like being proven wrong, but I would never give out bad or inaccurate advice. I don't understand why people would do that. It doesn't take away their own moneu if another membr earns more than them. It's pathetic to know that people do that on here. I haven't seen it and I hope I never will. My first reaction to this place iras 'wow, MyLot is such a friendly place!'
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@kafueenu (1073)
• Philippines
6 Jun 10
I really don't understand why some members wish harm to other members by giving wrinf or bad advices. It is really not right. We all went through the newbie stage, and we know how hard it is to not know anything in mylot, you are right those people should be punished accordingly.
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• United States
6 Jun 10
I hate to say it, but many think they know the rules better then others, and when they start telling lies, that is when things go bad. If you look back you will see where I actually told Alice that older members told me last year we had to have a question in every post otherwise it wasn't in the guidelines. I hate to say it but that is what 3 senior members had stated last year. Now we find out the truth. That it's false information. It is stuff like that, that royally ticks me off. I also bet 10 to 1 the members that gave me that info are laughing about it now.
@mysdianait (64064)
• Italy
6 Jun 10
Did they tell you that there has to be a question or that there must be something to discuss, with or without a question?
• United States
6 Jun 10
Mysd, it states there has to be a question, some wheres in the whole discussion otherwise there is no discussion. Which we are now finding out was a bunch of hog wash. It also makes me wonder why 90% of the discussions do have questions? Maybe because so many people believed that bull.
• India
6 Jun 10
hi friend i wnt say only onething there is bad in every where, so please ignore the bad opinons and tak the good opinons. where there is a good there is a bad
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• United States
6 Jun 10
Yes, there is good and bad every wheres. Its just weeding out the bad from the good, which can be a problem in life, usually though its the bad ones that seem to have a huge following behind them.
• Philippines
6 Jun 10
i my self made a double post sometimes but in one topic only and i report it to mylot for them to delete it, as a member since mylot amin can't read all of our post all the time then we have the responsibility to report any violation but mylot is not that stupid to just delete the post without checking it, before they delete it they will of course validate the report and if they found out that its ended violated then thats the only time they will delete it. so if its really a duplicate post whether in the same topic or not then they will delete it, thats why its very important to us to just avoid those topic that almost the same as the others.
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• United States
6 Jun 10
Please look at the post above yours, since that is not really what was being discussed here, we are talking about other members saying that every post out there is most likely a duplicate because its about Mylot, or neobux ect. Just because a discussion has to do with something that has been posted before, it does not make it the same discussion, because every one of us has our own words that we use to describe our own experiences.
@Hatley (164736)
• Garden Grove, California
6 Jun 10
hi pmbhuntress09 there are a few who think they must police thingswhen mylot admins sees duplicate posts they just naturally delete them. these happen to all of us at times and i just hit the exclamation point and write out that I accidentally had my response duplicate twice so please delete one of them and they always do it. How in the world do you know who is reporting whom as these are private and too mylot has the final say so so if something is deleted its not because of some nefarious persons at all, mylotadmins reads all reports and decides for themselves what is good and what is not so no I do not seeing anyone falsely reporting anyone.If I see someone insulting another poster I will report it as we are told to do that but I do not report duplicates at all as this happens often and is a glitch of my lot itself. do not think mylot does not have final say over any reports so do not worry about it at all.I would be very careful to be sure before you tell someone that they are giving wrong info to a new member otherwise it can just stir up a lot of animosity as nobody likes to be told they are doing something wrong if they are not. mylot admins should be the one to do that type of thing,I would not do it as it seems really rude.I am busy enough jus minding my own discussions and responding here and there.
• United States
6 Jun 10
Many seem to think that duplicate means just that when a post gets double posted, well it can mean that or when someone actually copies someone else post word for word, but that wasn't what the discussion was about it was about people stating that posts are duplicates because they are about the same topic. In other words if I posted something about Mylot and my experiences with it, they would say its a duplicate because there is like 500 other posts about Mylot. This does not make it a duplicate. In fact its far from it. Since every person out there has a different experience. As I stated prior, I have read 4 discussions lately about energy saving bulbs, but they are all different, they are not duplicates.
@TexLadyPj (1329)
• United States
5 Jun 10
Herro pmbhuntress09 Hey, learned how to spell it without looking. Going to add it to my spellchecker, tehe. I'm not sure what people are defining a duplicate post. When I go searching for a discussion to respond to, I sometimes see two posts, one right after the other, same wording, same person. That is a true duplicate post, other than that, I wouldn't say it is duplicate because it may be worded differently or the discussion may have different words and start a different line of thinking for my response. I did go and read the FAQ's with more attention to detail and found out what the +, -, ! means and will start using that system. Prosperous mylotting
• United States
5 Jun 10
Some days, Mylot messes up and yes you will see a duplicate word for word the same. Luckily I have never had that problem, now on the other hand one friend on my list posted the exact same discussion 7 times and just changed the title every time, I had to report it 6 times, but still to me that was wrong. But word for word it was the same discussion. Some people in here think that just because someone starts a discussion about the same programs, or about the same types of things including TV shows, that its a duplicate, they don't read the other ones that are about the same thing to make sure they are not word for word the same. As I already said above if you look up the word Mylot you will find hundreds of discussions, does that mean they are all duplicates? No because each one is slightly different. You should always know what the +,-,! means this way you know how to use them, just be careful with the -, it can hurt you. Mike, found out that the negative that some were using actually made there own star drop, so most of us don't even use it.
@sulynsi (2838)
• Canada
5 Jun 10
Good grief! My head is spinning. I always HATE discussions about what can be done and what can't be done. Its exhausting. I feel compelled to read them, but frustrated when I'm done. Seems to me, regardless of what the rules are, rules are broken all the time, and not just by newbies. I've been around for about a year now, and as you can see from the number of posts, I do more reading than actual posting. I have seen plenty of instances where rules are rubbery for some and fragile for others. I have no intention of listing examples, I usually just smile to myself and move on. The only time I ever "reported" anything was when someone was being abusive to someone else.
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• United States
5 Jun 10
Thank you for that reply, that so sums up what I also have noticed over the past almost 2 years around here. Seems to me that some do get away with breaking the rules, especially when they are very well known, and when they have some push with other members. Where as the newbies get caught doing the same thing either they are banned or there discussions are deleted, this is why I read more then I reply. Because in a way I have to laugh, its just a bit funny watching as to whom gets to keep a discussion up and whom gets theirs deleted. I agree, abuse should always be reported.
@sulynsi (2838)
• Canada
5 Jun 10
I am a "rules" person. I like guidelines. But I'm also realistic and I am aware that there is no such thing as an original thought. Its all been said, done, experienced yada yada. The concept of making sure no topic is copied or repeated is so absurd, particularly on the internet. Certainly no one should plagiarize. That's a definite no no. Mylot would shut down in a few hours if no topic could ever be repeated. But then, a lot of fabulous dialogue would be lost. If I didn't happen to be around to put my two cents in when the "original" discussion happened, or I didn't happen to be the lucky one who typed it in first, I'd miss out. Ridiculous. Seems to me, too, that if someone is pontificating about rules, their words are a little hollow, when they not only shortly thereafter start a discussion about the same topic as someone else, even borrowing from the STYLE of a very popular member, to get noticed! (it worked too, don't ya know?) (ok THAT one REALLY burned me!) and don't bother asking me who, cause I ain't telling tales outta school, but those that think no one notices, I NOTICED. I confess that I have given into temptation on occasion and joined in the playful banter of long time members who are flaunting rules left right and centre. I enjoy myLot. I try to stick to the rules the best I can, but I'm not going to do what I did the first months I was here and tippy toe around terrified of "the man", worried that I'm committing a mortal mylot sin.
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• United States
5 Jun 10
I personally use to do just that tip toe around. I hate to say it but it doesn't help, they always seem to find you and still pick at you. So now, I have come to realize that if people don't know my humor or me, they may take things the wrong way, but if they don't like it they know what they can do with it. All we can do is try and stick to the rules the best we can, if they still think were doing something wrong, the heck with it, at least we tried. I also always make sure that I have one or 2 places where I can go, and blow off steam if needed, that way, I don't reflect my feelings in here, otherwise I would get a big boot in my back side.
5 Jun 10
I didn't see yet any post who giving bad advice. Why some body do something like that, they don't have nothing if they report some body . If I will see person who talk someone wrong advice I will say to stop doing this, if not I will report this person who lie to admin
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• United States
5 Jun 10
I saw a man on here the other day telling someone they could easily make $10 a day here at Mylot just posting discussions, I hate to say it but that won't ever happen. I can't make that type of cash here and I hate to say it but even the older members here can't make that much just posting discussions. I also have seen some folks, actually report a discussion because there is one link in it, even if its not a referral link and tell the newbie its spam, this just isn't right.
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@topffer (33297)
• France
5 Jun 10
You can't earn $10 a day at myLot just posting discussions, but I am quite sure that the top referrers are making more than that without posting everyday : http://www.mylot.com/w/community/refer.aspx
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5 Jun 10
Maybe somebody say about making 10$ when posting and make task, then I think it is possibly. I saw task were was pay even 4$. Or maybe that person make about 1000 post a day hahah
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@redhotpogo (4029)
• United States
6 Jun 10
There are alot of false reports on mylot, and the problem is no one is going to investigate to see if the reports are true, they're just going to take action. I don't know how many non adult related topics I've seen marked "mature content"
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@mysdianait (64064)
• Italy
6 Jun 10
The 'mature content' tag is automatically added when the myLot script detects certain words. Unfortunately when we are discussing chicken recipes for example, it cannot understand that there is nothing mature about a chicken, unless it is an old hen maybe, and the 'mature content' tag will appear in just the same way as it would if we were discussing the upper part of the female anatomy
• United States
6 Jun 10
LMAO, I so know. I have a friend with the first name that starts with a D and ends with a K and they think its a bad word. He got so ticked off, that he couldn't put his real name in his profile info, that he quit before he even started. The problem is that the word isn't bad its a mans name for crying out loud, if we are brought into this world with that name, there isn't much we can do to get rid of it. It is strange though how it thinks that is a bad word when you are talking about chicken yet they allow the Boobies word for the same thing and that isn't mature content. Then use that in a sentence for chicken and its just so darn funny.
@mysdianait (64064)
• Italy
6 Jun 10
You might be interested to read what admin Alice had to say about the 'mature content' tag: http://www.mylot.com/w/discussions/2219127.aspx?p=9
• Iran
6 Jun 10
Yes, you say right. I warn those who are wrong is a good job.
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• United States
6 Jun 10
Yes, leaving warnings is always a good thing, of course many of them get ticked off, if you show them they are wrong, or even tell them they are wrong. That is when problems start happening, so its always a make sure you don't mind getting bashed deal.
@Cutie18f (9564)
• Philippines
6 Jun 10
I think that if such reports are made, all of us would appreciate it if Mylot admin would take a look and see for themselves whether these reports are true or not. And yes, I am with you in your suggestion that members who make false reports to admin should also be penalized or banned from the site. That way, the site will be rid of such members.
• United States
6 Jun 10
I fully agree that something needs to be done, if they think that they can report something that is not a duplicate, or even yell almost at the discussion maker, when its not a duplicate, that something needs to be done with said member. I actually discussed a bit with Alice on the last page about last year and what I was told, according to her it was false information, so this just goes to prove that many members usually senior ones, tell you wrong information.
@skysuccess (8882)
• Singapore
6 Jun 10
pmbhuntress09, In the first place, I do not think you could see if your post(s) has been reported to the administrators here. I feel that it would be wrong to assume that because the post is deleted would mean that it being reported. Sometimes, it is being deleted because it is a clear violation of the guidelines here. The administrators are working round the clock to ensure this and I have every confidence that they are doing it and a great job too. So, I do not think you should be overly concerned to the point of getting yourself all worked up or discouraged here. The administrators and "veteran" members would always be around to step in and help out. If it your post(s) is being removed, then just accept it that it has infringed the very guidelines laid down here. There's no false reporting or whatever negativity you might have construed in your mind. Have some confidence with yourself and the admin here. Now, if you do spot some bad or wrong advice being given, then by all means - speak up and speak out. I just do not see the point of a blind leading another blind to fall off a steep cliff. Point the error out and correct it! Besides, isn't this what, discussion is all about?
• United States
6 Jun 10
We are discussing people giving bad advice, including duplicate posts, which are not duplicates, just because one title has to do with what someone else had to write about yet, its completely different then all the other posts about it. So if I write about my experience with Mylot is it a duplicate of someone else discussion about there experience? I think not. I believe that if we can only have one discussion about Mylot, then this site would have closed up nearly 3 years ago. The same thing for any other discussion topic.
@sid556 (31006)
• United States
5 Jun 10
I have not seen any of this at all. I would say though if you do see it then in all fairness it would be right to let mylot know. I don't even know how to tell if someone has been reported.
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• United States
5 Jun 10
sometimes you can tell if they have been reported, because the people add violation in the keywords.
@Itulung (107)
• India
6 Jun 10
OH... i m also a new member... But I never came across such a thing... Anyway.... its a precaution for me.. thanks to you..
• United States
6 Jun 10
Welcome to Mylot by the way, I hope you enjoy it here. Yes many of us need to watch the advice that we get from others, it seems to me that way to many people give out really bad advice,and by keeping an eye out you can see who is doing just that.
@mysdianait (64064)
• Italy
6 Jun 10
If the advice is accompanied by a link to the source where it can be found then there is no confusion whatsoever.
• Saint Lucia
8 Jun 10
Ye but the thing is most people in general just give bad avdice. They are judgmental
• United States
11 Jun 10
They sure are, and the worst part is that even after a year some people will say they never gave bad advice to anyone even though they did do it. If you say something about it, they will so go off on you, so I have learned now, its best to keep my mouth shut and just ignore them when they make stupid comments about how people should do things. I have met some folks that have denied giving any bad advice for many years, and I hate to say it but they are really hurting them selves rather then others.