Would you stop using Toilet Paper?

@ram_cv (16513)
India
June 29, 2010 9:58pm CST
In the western world on the one hand, there is a huge talk about paper less office to save the environment, but on the other hand the mornings can't even start without paper!! I am talking about Toilet Paper here. In India people generally wash up using water instead of wiping it off with Toilet paper. It reduces on a huge amount of wastage of paper and reduces the cutting of trees. Would you adopt this practice and stop using Toilet paper or do you still think you will continue with the Toilet Paper option? Cheers! Ram Go Green!!
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@Celanith (2327)
• United States
1 Jul 10
Well having grown up in the woods and hills, there are other options for using. Before Toilet paper there was Corn Cobs LOL. Just Kidding. Well maybe or so I hear but anyway. Native Americans used Mullin leaves for one. They are a weed that grows wild and leaves are very soft and even when dry are soft and there is moss. Also soft. Another option is special rags designated for this use and washable or not. Throw them out, seems an abundance of rags. Yes could do if need. Some European nations have something that washes your backside built right in. For some reason Americans have not utilized this good idea. Just my two cents. What a funny topic.
@Celanith (2327)
• United States
1 Jul 10
More thoughts on this. Okay you could use fern and broad leaf maple leaves too. Before someone invented disposable diapers most people in America used cotton diapers, rinsed the diaper that was dirty into a pail of water and threw the water down the toilet. They then washed the diapers with hot soap and water. I think we need to go back to that instead of filling our landfills with poopy diapers where flies crawl and maggots form and flies travel and come to your house and crawl on your plates. The bible says to use a spade or shovel and bury your offal. Wiping and cleaning water is good. In the woods like I said there are plants to be harvested and used if need that are not too harsh on the tush. However you need to know what plants to use. You would not want stinging nettles, poison oak, ivy or sumac or cactus LOL. But you could find natural things to use if put to the necessity of doing such. Again old cotton rags could be used, put in a pail of water and then washed with hot water and soap.
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@Celanith (2327)
• United States
2 Jul 10
LOL No I didn't say to use cactus "OUCH" I said you would need to be careful and not use them. Or some of the others. I think the Europeans use something in the bathroom called a Bidet or something like that. American's don't have these don't know why.
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@ram_cv (16513)
• India
1 Jul 10
Celanith... good alternatives... But cactus :) Anyhow I think the human race over the ages overcome this issue in many ways and and as you just pointed out options such as cotton diapers can be reconsidered. BTW, what is the European concept of washing your backside built in? I am not aware of something like that. Cheers! Ram
@dd1203 (34)
• Malaysia
30 Jun 10
we wash up... in my house we don't have toilet paper... not only we go green... we also save a lot...
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@ram_cv (16513)
• India
1 Jul 10
Exactly my point. Cheers! Ram
@ram_cv (16513)
• India
15 Jul 10
I do not use toilet papers as far as possible. I prefer to wash up most of the time and only if there is no water available resort to toilet paper!! Cheers! Ram
@dd1203 (34)
• Malaysia
2 Jul 10
have u started not to use toilet paper?
• United States
30 Jun 10
Toilet Paper - Sorry, but I could not go without toilet paper.
Sorry, but I could not go without toilet paper. That would be too disgusting for reasons I won't go into here. - Besides, trees are a renewable resource in the USA. When a tree is cut down to make a paper product here in the United States, a seedling is planted in its place. Trees are carbon sinks as well. There are tree farms devoted to paper products, very much like there are farms devoted to corn, wheat, and potatoes. We rarely use old growth forest for paper products, although sometimes old forests do need thinning to prevent forest fires that can devastate. - India and the United States have different needs regarding the environment and their trees. I cannot speak to how Indians should approach hygiene and attending the...um...business. I just know how I have to attend to mine, and what I've been told about the local trees here.
@Celanith (2327)
• United States
1 Jul 10
Also what many people do not understand is trees do die as well. They like all other things have a life span. Some trees live longer than other trees. White Fir for example has a tendacy to rot from within and you do not see this. Cedar trees live much much longer as do Oak. But they are indeed renewable. I know of people who planted trees 70 years ago and their son harvested them and that was some 30 years ago and the son planted more and they are going to be ready to harvest again in 25-35 more years. They grow fast in the Pacific Northwest and if Pine really fast there are some ready to harvest in 25 years.
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@ram_cv (16513)
• India
30 Jun 10
Sure. This is really a topic that affects an individual and each individual has the right to voice his/her opinion. Cheers! Ram
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@mommaj (23112)
• United States
30 Jun 10
This is a cultural eye opener and amusing. I guess it really depends on what you are used to. LOL I don't think I could ever stop using toilet paper. I have stopped using paper towels for a month or so. Now I just use a lot less of them. My husband couldn't figure out how to use a cotton towel instead. LOL Not using toilet paper at home would be okay. What would you do in public? Take your own wash rags with you. I am assuming you would still clean up with something. LOL I don't think an office can go completely paperless.
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@ram_cv (16513)
• India
30 Jun 10
Yes, that is why this topic is quite interesting. If you come down to Asia people feel more comfortable and hygenic with water and soap. You go towards the west and people feel more comfortable and hygenic with tissue paper. There are no statistic available to prove either right or wrong :) But yes, it is a habit and I very much understand how difficult it is to change a habit that you enter from a very young age. Cheers! Ram
@mommaj (23112)
• United States
30 Jun 10
How true! Cultures are extremely different. Great way to handle a delicate situation.
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@Andyvil (793)
• Philippines
30 Jun 10
I actually use toilet paper and wash up at the same time.
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@ram_cv (16513)
• India
30 Jun 10
:) so then you can actually cut off on the toilet paper and after washing up use a towel!! Cheers! Ram
@airakumar (1553)
• India
30 Jun 10
Toilet Paper is an essentials for me. I cannot stop using it. Toilet paper is also very versatile. Toilet paper has many uses, some obvious and some not so much. You can use toilet paper to clean your eye glasses and your sunglasses. You can also blow your nose, stop a nose bleed and even temporarily stop the bleeding of a cut with the help of toilet paper. The most popular use of toilet paper doesn't involve your sunglasses or your nose. Most often it's just the toilet and you. It's not likely that you are and while in the comfort of your home you should have the comfort you deserve.
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@ram_cv (16513)
• India
30 Jun 10
Yes, toilet paper is no doubt versatile. But at least we Indians use water and a small piece of cloth for any of the above purposes you mentioned. It is easy to do and does not involve paper at all. Cheers! Ram
@mrcol1010 (209)
• United States
30 Jun 10
I personally would not because by doing that, you may be saving the trees and all that, but in turn you are poisoning the water supply. And all species need water more than trees to live.
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@grayxenon (1313)
• Philippines
30 Jun 10
care to elaborate? how will water supply will be poisoned? in my understanding you will wash and water is flush straight to the toilet.
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@ram_cv (16513)
• India
30 Jun 10
Exactly. As long as we do not excrete industrial waste, I think bio degradable waste will not poison water.. :) Cheers! Ram
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
30 Jun 10
I lived in a semi-desert area where water is precious. Who's to say that using water is less wasteful than using paper. Sand anybody?
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@ram_cv (16513)
• India
1 Jul 10
Sand would be interesting, but the side effects might be a bit too much :) But in places where there is a water shortage, I do not think there is any concern with usage of tissues. Human needs have to be catered to one way or the other. It is more at places where there is no shortage of water that we are talking about here. Cheers! Ram
@cream97 (29087)
• United States
30 Jun 10
Hi, ram_cv. I have to use toilet paper to wipe myself with and use for other purposes too. I could not just wipe myself with a cloth than to use paper. I need to use paper.
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@ram_cv (16513)
• India
1 Jul 10
Hmm... Can you at least try and see if your usage of paper is efficient i.e. as minimal as possible... Cheers! Ram
@geojb90 (470)
• Galati, Romania
30 Jun 10
Some toilet paper are made from recycled paper. Some people make the mistake of not recycling. Recycling helps save the environment and reduce the cutting of trees.
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@ram_cv (16513)
• India
30 Jun 10
Yes, that is true. Recycled paper reduces the amount of trees being cut, but the problem is that the recyclability of paper is much less compared to water and hence if we move towards using water, it has a much better and longer impact. Cheers! Ram
@geojb90 (470)
• Galati, Romania
30 Jun 10
I don't know, but I wouldn't give up using toilet paper. I find it more hygienic.
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@iwinagain (545)
30 Jun 10
I would continue using toilet paper because it's convenient and it's common to use toilet paper everywhere. If you are in a restaurant and you use their bathroom, it will be kind of weird to use their water to wash up your butt, don't you think?
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• Indonesia
30 Jun 10
I think it's different culture that we are talking here. In Western countries, you're only using toilet paper to wash, in Asia we usually have like bidets or toilet spray to wash and then we use tissue to wipe the water. But yeah it will be weird if you ask that in Western countries restaurant hehe
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@ram_cv (16513)
• India
30 Jun 10
Yes, difference in cultures is definitely one thing. The other aspect is that it is often difficult to change a practice as basic as washing a bum that you do at least once everyday all your life and changing that habit, so that reluctance or skepticism is definitely understandable, but believe it is not as clumsy as you think it is :) Cheers! Ram
@slovenc1 (2089)
• Slovenia
30 Jun 10
I don't think i could get used to using water because you spend more time that way and people do say we should save water too. So maybe it would be best to use what's around you... if you have loads of water and less trees use water, otherwise use paper. Oh i forgot we use water anyway to flush.
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@ram_cv (16513)
• India
1 Jul 10
Exactly the point, water is used anyway to flush!! Cheers! Ram
• United States
9 Jul 10
I'd rather use a bidet and one or two squares of toilet paper to dry. Then I'll wash my hands. I hate having to use too much toilet paper.
@ram_cv (16513)
• India
10 Jul 10
Anything that reduces the usage is a good sign. Cheers! Ram
• Philippines
30 Jun 10
In my group of friends (girlfriends), all of us agrees the fact of washing thoroughly with water, clean with soaps and wipe with clean cloth, so i can't see any role of toilet paper there. But of course it is only applicable in your own place, when your in a different place like in a working environment, you really have to bring or at least look for a toilet paper unless you want to feel wet all the time.
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@ram_cv (16513)
• India
1 Jul 10
I think places outside your control, you really cannot do much, but even if you take care of it at places within your control, it is really good enough. Cheers! Ram
• United States
30 Jun 10
i can see the point of not using toilet paper to cut down on trees and expense but i don't think i could go without it....
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@ram_cv (16513)
• India
1 Jul 10
At least maybe you can start reducing the usage. I have seen some who use too many tissues at one go!! Cheers! Ram
@bmorehouse1 (1028)
• United States
30 Jun 10
I'm all for saving the environment, but I put my foot down about not using toilet paper. I had a relative who went to a foreign country for 2 months. They did not use toilet paper in that country. She came home with a horrible staff infection. I always think of that and cannot even think about not using toilet paper! Like someone else pointed out there is toilet paper that is made from recycled paper, so that would be an option. Sorry folks, but toilet paper it is!
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@ram_cv (16513)
• India
30 Jun 10
:) But if you see some other responses the people used to using water and soap, sometimes develop rashes with Tissue paper :) So I guess it is a question of what we are used to. But it is a topic that is so personal that everyone will have a say :) Cheers! Ram
30 Jun 10
well before i am used to using toilet papers but when i grew up i stopped using it but instead i am using water and soap as an alternatives. with that idea i can save money as well as saving mother nature. not only that, it is more hygienic for me.
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@ram_cv (16513)
• India
30 Jun 10
Fantastic. Cheers! Ram
@rkamurugy (279)
• Brazil
30 Jun 10
I use toilet paper and i don't know if use water instead paper is good or bad, a many people said before water is not a easy resource and we need to use it wisely, in some answers you said that we got a lot of water and water is easier to replace but that is not true at all, some places has lack of water, so i think we need to use things wisely. We can use recycled toilet paper for example. I recycle paper, plastic and glass here, unfortunelly i am a exception. And one question what would you do if when you go to bathroom after you do everything you need you notice that there is no water????
@ram_cv (16513)
• India
1 Jul 10
I definitely agree with the usage of toilet paper at places that have a shortage of water. After all human needs have to be catered to. I am only talking about places where there is no shortage of water. Most of the developed nations do not have a shortage of water as they now have figured out ways and means of getting the water. Cheers! Ram
@sagar21 (1579)
• India
30 Jun 10
No To Toilet Paper - Say No To Toilet Paper
yep....ANOTHER WASTAGE TO WIPE OUR A$$.... may be they will stop it when TOILET COMPUTER comes.......!!! Telling lots of silly excuses....actually........I think such people are just lazy... I think it was the most absurd invention....and many innovations made till date..... Toilet paper manufacturers are running out of synonyms...for "soft"... Actually this plush U.S. toilet paper is made by chopping and grinding trees that were decades or even a century old!!!!!!!!! So now what is it really a menace to environment...???? Yes it is........ .....what to say.....??? SAY....NO TO TOILET PAPER...USE WATER...GO GREEN thanks for the topic...... have a great day/night.........
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@ram_cv (16513)
• India
1 Jul 10
Toilet computer!! LOL!! Keep them coming :) Cheers! Ram
@SkylerD (85)
• United States
30 Jun 10
Yeah it would be nice to save the paper that we use in the bathroom, but i don't think i would ever stop using toilet paper. I don't think cleaning yourself with paper is wasting it. I guess you could say the people in India are wasting water that they use to clean themselves. Many third world countrys have alot less water than they do paper. I think they are just two different forms fo hygine, nieather one better than the other. However i think ill stick with toilet paper :D
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@ram_cv (16513)
• India
1 Jul 10
Water is more recyclable than paper. More percentage of water can be easily recycled and re-used back in circulation. Anyhow water is used for flushing after use, so the additional small amount does not really impact much. Cheers! Ram
• Philippines
30 Jun 10
there are other means of helping the environment and reducing the use of paper. but not using toilet paper? i totally disagree, toilet paper is very useful, maybe i can lessen the use of it but cutting it off is hard.
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@ram_cv (16513)
• India
30 Jun 10
Lessening it's use is a start. I think gradual reduction is the best way to slowly get accustomed to the idea. Believe me I think giving up on this is going to be more difficult than asking smokers to quit as smoking is a habit that person gets around his teens and after a decade or so people ask to quit. But here is an habit that we have entered from a very young age and it is an almost involuntary action :) Cheers! Ram