Shopkeepers not to report thefts?

@derek_a (10874)
July 23, 2010 5:04am CST
I read in the news today that police are telling shopkeepers not to report thefts of under £20 in the UK. Do you feel that theft is theft and should always be reported? And could this mean that young people will now start thieving more from the shops and stores because they know that nothing much can happen to them?
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@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
23 Jul 10
How loopy is that? I mean, newsagents have a tough job making any money as it is without giving the kids free rein to nick as many sweets and treats as possible. I mean, one could nick quite a few of those before reaching the £20..and why £20? How have they come up with that figure? Bizarre to say the least! Well, I suppose the cops can just drive around instead of catching criminals. Cops here are huge and have been seen frequenting the doughnut shop on many occasions..I bet they don't have to pay either!
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@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
24 Jul 10
Awww poor Derek! It's so typical your "friends" running off like that, leaving you to face the music as it were. I couldn't even nick penny chews never mind a coconut lol. Terrified!
@SilverKing (1003)
• Canada
24 Jul 10
i do not understand why the police would say this.This only send a message you the community and everyone in it that you won't get a record for shoplifting and just be asked to leave.I hope that this gets changed after the amount of shoplifting goes thought the roof.When people consider shoplifting most don't as it could impact them getting a job.Hopefully this gets changed after it goes into affect as the thought of people getting away with theft even for 20 dollars is truly despicable.
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@derek_a (10874)
24 Jul 10
Thanks for posting SilverKing.. I hope that this gets changed too. There are so many people who steal already, and this is just adding another method of stealing to the repetoire. Another good point you make here is that they would just to out and steal their groceries and provisions, and wouldn't need to get a job. Maybe way back in history society was too hard on crime, but now they seem to be going into the other direction! _Derek
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@wolfie34 (26771)
• United Kingdom
23 Jul 10
That is unbelievable, that is just sending out a green light to everyone that a) theft is acceptable and b) theft is rewarding, all those £20 will mount up, what if one person went in and stole something under £20 and kept going into that same shop to do the same? Businesses are hit bad enough with the recession what is this going to do? It's lunancy utter lunancy, the government condoning thieving which is what this amounts too. I give up with this country, we've gone to the dogs well and truly. So theft is acceptable is it? Is it just a ploy to bring the crime rate down, not reporting it, good one government! Next theyll be saying you can get away with attacking someone you can't report you've been attacked only if you've been killed can you report it? Is this there way of getting the crime figures down? I am stunned, utterly stunned my friend! But then with this country I shouldn't be surprised any more.
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@derek_a (10874)
23 Jul 10
Yes, it is unbelievable Wolfie, I couldn't believe it myself when I read it. I can accept that the country needs to tighten its belt, and during recessions there is a tendency for crime to rise. I dread to think what will happen now. And probably made worse by it being publicized in a newspaper.. _Derek
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@LittleMel (8742)
• Canada
22 Dec 11
hmm that doesn't make sense true 20 bucks may be small from one shop but if they steal 20 from 5 shops that would be 100 bucks they get away with
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@derek_a (10874)
23 Dec 11
Hi Mel.. Thanks for responding. Yes, it seems as if it could lead to a career in stealing from shops.. _Derek
@blueunicorn (2401)
• United States
23 Jul 10
I do think that announcing to the public that "small" thefts won't be reported will increase shoplifting. It's sad that all over the world we are choosing to "look the other way" because of "small crimes." It is the small crimes that turn into big ones. If kids are scared the first time they are caught they may not be brave enough to try again tomorrow or next week. Yes, theft is theft. Period. It is not okay to steal something just because it is a small cost.
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@derek_a (10874)
24 Jul 10
Thank you both for posting here. Yes all of us here can see common sense and theft if theft. Why can't the people that can do something about it, regard it this way too. There are going to be a lot of £20s being lost and the total ammount of loss due to theft will be astronomical. _Derek
• Canada
24 Jul 10
Yeah i agree the police should investigate all thefts as the thieves will think that stealing is ok if they don't report small thefts.I really think this is a bad idea and it certainally will backfire on them.
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@hvedra (1619)
23 Jul 10
The fact is that the police are probably overwhelmed but the reason for this is that petty thefts and other petty crimes are not dealt with and so the criminals merrily carry on and thus there is more crime so the police are overwhelmed... This also happens in schools where small "incidents" are virtually ignored so they are rife and the perpetrators think they can do anything they like. A friend of mine, who works as a technician, had a laser pen shone in her eye by one pupil (the pens are illegal and the police class this as assault) and his punishment was to miss ONE lunch break. He could have permanently damaged her eye sight. What kind of message does ignoring things that are wrong send to these kids? That it's okay to grow up to be a thug!
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@wolfie34 (26771)
• United Kingdom
23 Jul 10
Plus the fact that there is no deterrant! Even when people are caught and reported, they get a slap, a warning and the kids just laugh at it, it's a game to them, because no matter what they do they can get away with it, every single time.
@derek_a (10874)
23 Jul 10
Thanks for responding Hvedra and Wolfie. I can't help but get the feeling that there has been a slow deterioration of laws over the years, and it seems to be manifesting in all sorts of unnacceptable behaviour. _Derek
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@KrauseHome (36448)
• United States
28 Sep 11
Many times even here in the US you hear of stories like this. A lot of the time, it is because they do not want to be bothered with the Small thefts, and think it is nothing serious not realizing sometimes that when they allow the small things to get away with many times it will lead to something bigger, but since investigations, etc. cost $$ they need to focus more on the Bigger ones.
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@derek_a (10874)
29 Sep 11
Thanks for your response. Yes, it does seem that the bigger crimes are now taking precedence over the smaller ones. I believe that karma will play out in time. _Derek
@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
24 Jul 10
Hello Derek, I do not quite approve of this Derek. This will have an irreversible effect on the society and as you have said, people who are inclined towards thieving will have their way easily. Having said this, the shop owners would devise some kind of penury limited to their jurisdiction. I am not sure though if in UK this would be viable.
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@derek_a (10874)
24 Jul 10
Thank you for posting. The whole idea is crazy and it seems like this softly-softly approach is going to new extremes. I am beginning to wonder how much more law and order can be swept under the carpet. And what a strange way of tackling hard-pressed businesses in the midst of a recession. It may even get some shopkeepers to consider throwing in the towel and shutting up short. I know from experience (my Dad owned a shop) that profit margins for many of these shops are very low and £20 will take some making up in profits from sales, and if it happened more than once in a week, it would be even worse. _Derek
• India
23 Jul 10
Hello friend I agree with you theft is theft, whether you steal a chocolate or rob a bank, the chocolate thief of today becomes the bank robber in future if not controlled or guided.. I think your country will have more criminals in future because of wrong policy.. Thanks for sharing. Welcome always. Cheers. Professor
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@derek_a (10874)
24 Jul 10
Thank you for posting my friend.. I think that majority of people think that this is a ridiculous thing to happen, and hopefully public pressure from buyers as well as shopkeepers will prevent this from happening. But I'm not going to hold my breath as there has been alot of crazy things happening to law and order recently. _Derek
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@tomitomi (5429)
• Singapore
23 Jul 10
Hi derek_a! Sounds to me that people are encouraged to steal below £20 in the UK. I agree with you that no matter how small the amount is 'theft is theft and should always be reported'. If the law is not tough enough, people would be tough enough not to be on its side.
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@derek_a (10874)
23 Jul 10
Thank you for posting. I would say that small crimes gradually grow into bigger crimes if they are left unchecked. _Derek
@AutumnGold (1056)
24 Jul 10
Hello Derek. This sounds like the police are just trying to make their job easier. I know it costs a lot of money to prosecute someone but people need to be stopped from stealing even if it's only something small. This is so stupid.
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@derek_a (10874)
29 Sep 11
Thanks for responding. Yes, I could't agree more because they really are sending out the wrong message that thieves can get away with it.