I survived an abortion and you expected me to be pro-choice
@CaptAlbertWhisker (32512)
Calgary, Alberta
December 26, 2010 10:23am CST
I dont attack or say nasty things to pro-choice people even though i am not debating with them but I can hate that some of them are just damn aggressive. I just talk to a pro-choice woman, well we work in the same place so I let her talk to me, she brought it up and i am not even interested talking about it. i was just sitting and relaxing when she tried to bringing out a topic out of randomly... well she expected me to be Pro-choice(I guess she think everyone should be pro-choice), The moment I sad i am pro-life she called me a zealot and a sexist, she didn't even know the story behind my life. My mom tried to abort me , she take medicines to get rid of me and yes its the cause of my mental disorders,But when my dad found out he stopped her. (My mom just dont like to be pregnant again)
I did forgive my mother.
I dont go to those pro-life rallies so how can she cant call me a zealot. But she must understand I wont support pro-choice people because I was a victim of them. I was almost aborted. I love to live even if its hard. I dont even know why out of nowhere she will ambush me in my seat and give me pro-choice brochures.
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@sid556 (30960)
• United States
26 Dec 10
Hi Albert,
I am pro-choice but I can certainly see why you would feel as you do about the issue. I don't understand the pushy agressive tactics on either side of these kinds of issues. I'm sorry that your mom did this to you. Sounds as if she took matters into her own hands and what she did was hurt you. I think that whoever told you the story of what she did hurt you also. What a painful thing that must of been for you to hear. 
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@CaptAlbertWhisker (32512)
• Calgary, Alberta
26 Dec 10
The pro-choice woman justs irritated me because she is to persistent, I just said I was an abortion survivor so there is no way I will support her and give her donations. i didn't forced her to be pro-life so she should not force her stand to me.
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@sid556 (30960)
• United States
26 Dec 10
I agree with you on that one. There is no need to be pushy anyway but if someone tells you that they are an abortion survivor well...that pretty much says it all. You don't have to be a shrink to understand why you would be very against it. I have never had an abortion and can't even imagine myself doing so. My reasons for being pro-choice is because I don't feel it is right to push my personal feelings onto someone else or judge them. Sounds like that woman was ignoring the "choice" part of her stance. You are choosing life...key word "choice" and she should of been fine with it.
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@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
26 Dec 10
Simple Albert, THE WOMAN just doesn't care WHAT YOU THINK
, she thinks she's looking for a loop hole to get you recruited into that organization, much like a sales lady convincing you to purchase a product.
Even the Red Cross is not forcing people here to Donate, who the hell does she think she is? i think it's a scam as far as I am concern.
, she thinks she's looking for a loop hole to get you recruited into that organization, much like a sales lady convincing you to purchase a product.
Even the Red Cross is not forcing people here to Donate, who the hell does she think she is? i think it's a scam as far as I am concern.1 person likes this
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
26 Dec 10
Hello Captain,,
I guess I was like this once during the elections, but in a different way of spurting off, which was my ideal candidate by the ways.I don't really know if i can forgive my mom if she ever did that to me. probably i would have just start being independent and don't see them unless it's the Holidays
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It's no different from Catholics who discriminate or isolate others simply because they have strong beliefs which is hypocrisy.I don't think she's a SMART LADY to understand you're concern but simply a SALES WOMAN who got involved in a good organization which is surely she's ruining.
HAH! She's Dumb. only cares about recruitment and act Ignorant...
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I guess I was like this once during the elections, but in a different way of spurting off, which was my ideal candidate by the ways.I don't really know if i can forgive my mom if she ever did that to me. probably i would have just start being independent and don't see them unless it's the Holidays.
It's no different from Catholics who discriminate or isolate others simply because they have strong beliefs which is hypocrisy.I don't think she's a SMART LADY to understand you're concern but simply a SALES WOMAN who got involved in a good organization which is surely she's ruining.
HAH! She's Dumb. only cares about recruitment and act Ignorant...3 people like this
@CaptAlbertWhisker (32512)
• Calgary, Alberta
28 Dec 10
I was not even trying to debate with her or push were I stand, i just want her to leave my alone. For sure my mom's abortion attempts thats why I was this way and but I really appreciate every day of my life and I dont have a grudge against my mom anymore. But I will not give donations to those women who wanted to promote pro-choice. I will not waste my time debating with them. Since I'm not bashing them and I'm not an advocate of pro-life, I just happen to side with pro-life because I was almost gone from the earth because of a pro-choice mother.
@hora_fugit (5862)
• India
27 Dec 10
Well I thought you had an abortion and it risked your life!
I'm sorry to hear your experience. IMO not creating a life is lot better than forcefully killing it. So maybe I'm a pro-life.
The whole point here is being pushy and condemning people just because they don't share your beliefs.... As someone said the woman is dumb...
I'm sorry to hear your experience. IMO not creating a life is lot better than forcefully killing it. So maybe I'm a pro-life.
The whole point here is being pushy and condemning people just because they don't share your beliefs.... As someone said the woman is dumb...2 people like this
@CaptAlbertWhisker (32512)
• Calgary, Alberta
28 Dec 10
LOL I cant have an abortion, I'm a guy, But my mom did try to get rid of me, she taken medicines and even attempted to go to an abortion clinic but my dad stopped her when he found out she is pregnant again.
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@_sketch_ (5742)
• United States
27 Dec 10
I agree that it was rude of her to expect you to be pro-choice, but it sounds like you expect everyone to agree with you as well. I understand that you relate to this topic in a very personal way, but you're absolutely right- she doesn't know you; she doesn't know what you've been through, so don't take it as a personal attack.
Secondly, it sounds like your mother tried to abort you at home, by herself, without any real medical help. Of course that is not a good thing and I'm sure that woman doesn't support that kind of thing. If anything, pro-choicers are trying to prevent that sort of thing.
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@CaptAlbertWhisker (32512)
• Calgary, Alberta
28 Dec 10
This is how the conversation like,
I was sitting at front of my computer sipping some coffee, she tried talking to me about being pro-choice, I said no thanks, Then she gets more pushy and I said I survived an abortion and my mom attempted to abort me thats why I was way, but she is still persistent. So as you see I was actually being respectful.
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@CaptAlbertWhisker (32512)
• Calgary, Alberta
30 Dec 10
I have a feeling she is pushing my buttons because she wanted to debate with me, well I didn't let her. I wont waste my time to a debate because its not going to change something.
@madteaparty (2748)
• Japan
27 Dec 10
Well, I understand that being a victim of a failed attempt to abort made you sensitive regarding this topic, and I respect that, but I think your way to think about pro-choice people is kind of hypocrite. They have to respect your ideas, but you hate people who have an idea different from you. That's disrespectful too.
People have experienced different things that build their personalities. I'm pro-abortion, and even if many people try to shove their ideas in my face, I'm not going to change that, but I'm not going to force others to think like me.
That person is at fault in this situation too, as nobody should try to force others into their ideas in such a violent way.
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@teedelydoo2 (97)
• United States
27 Dec 10
Actually he didn't say that he hated people who are pro-choice. He said he didn't like the way she was so pushy about her views even after he told her his. He isn't hateful.
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@CaptAlbertWhisker (32512)
• Calgary, Alberta
28 Dec 10
read again, I didnt say anythign hateful, I just said the woman is being pushy, I just said I'm an abortion survivor and she keeps on pushing her beliefs in me while I'm not even pushing my beliefs in her.
@teedelydoo2 (97)
• United States
27 Dec 10
I am Pro-Choice! The real pro-choice which means that I am actually pro-life. It doesn't make sense to call it pro-choice when you take the choice away from the baby. I cannot judge someone who has had an abortion, because I have not walked a mile in their shoes. Yes in reference to the song. And because I am a sinner just like anyone else. I will not force my views on anyone, but I will speak them and stand up for what I believe. I believe that life begins at conception, and anything purposefully harmful to the baby is murder; wheather society says it is or not.
I do have to say that being a mother, I can not wrap my head around the thought of a woman making a decision to kill a baby growing inside of her, after she has already had kids.
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@CaptAlbertWhisker (32512)
• Calgary, Alberta
28 Dec 10
Thanks for not being insensitive and being respectful, people have different views but I dont judge people for their views, I judge them more on how they will treat me as a human being, She already left me alone with her beliefs, But she is kinda like those street preachers, she is very persistent.
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@maximax8 (31053)
• United Kingdom
27 Dec 10
I am sorry for you found out that your mother tried to abort you. It was ever so lucky your father managed to talk her round. Maybe she only took one tablet and had her mind changed before she took the other pill which if taken would have aborted you. The lady that you work with that is pro-choice is perhaps thinking of the mother's wishes and not the innocent little baby. I am glad that you like living. I read a book about a lady that survived at about and her mother was 7 months pregnant. A nurse at the abortion clinic sent the baby girl to hospital and she was given care to live. Amazingly later in her life she wrote a book. I am pro-life. I think abortions are wrong because they murder an innocent baby.
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@CaptAlbertWhisker (32512)
• Calgary, Alberta
28 Dec 10
i think she took more than one tablet because I was diagnosed with many health issues and disorders. thankfully though i am not deformed,but growing up is hard for me because of all the effects.
@shaggin (71678)
• United States
27 Dec 10
Wow someone left you a comment that was pretty uncaring and rude but I'm not going to waste my time telling them that I'll just hope they leave mylot if they are going to be so rude. I dont think its right for people to go all off trying to preach to you on what you should believe. Its your right to believe how you want to believe. I am very sorry for what mental problems you have from your mother trying to abort you.
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@CaptAlbertWhisker (32512)
• Calgary, Alberta
28 Dec 10
I didnt even said anything hateful againts pro-choice people but she still attacked me. but I dont mind. My reason to be pro-life is very personal. but Im not going to rally and stuff. Because it wont change people's opinion, I think the only people who can convince women to keep their babies if their life is not at risk, are women themselves.
@carmelanirel (20942)
• United States
28 Dec 10
Wow, you are the second person I heard that has survived abortion. I am sorry for what has happened to you, but I am glad you are able to move on. I am pro-life, but won't get into an aggressive argument about it. Ironically the last couple days someone was making this big deal out of abortion, so I just politely asked them if they ever seen an abortion or known anyone who has survived one. They couldn't connect my reasoning was it isn't something to take lightly, that in an abortion, two patients go in, while only one comes out. It's sad, really that some people have such a low respect for life..:(
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@carmelanirel (20942)
• United States
28 Dec 10
Oh tell me about it, I get it whenever a "Christian" holiday comes around. I don't like them and prefer not to observe them, but have to because my family does..:P
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@CaptAlbertWhisker (32512)
• Calgary, Alberta
30 Dec 10
You mean Pagan Holidays....I am the only person with no Chrismas decor in my street, I wont tell my religion though. since I was a very private person and my religious beliefs will stay in the church. I am my own person.
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@CaptAlbertWhisker (32512)
• Calgary, Alberta
28 Dec 10
Its hard to deal with fanatics, Wether its a religious fanatic, Political fanatic, Atheist Fanatic or any kind of people who were pushing their beliefs to others obsessively like they have nothign else to do with their own life.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
27 Dec 10
hi albert I think this all boils down to respect for each others viewpoints and I can well understand how you feel. I dislike the
idea that so many women use abortion as a form of birth control.
For God's sakes we are talking about a life.brrrr.We now have
so many forms of birth control abortion should only happen to save a woman's life. I do think that like here in mylot our viewpoints should be respected even though I may not agree with p ro choice I will respedt
their views and leave the topic alone.Live and let live is my motto.
I feel its a good one as it avoids all these nasty little squabbles that pop up at times even here in mylot.Nothing is gained with them.
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@CaptAlbertWhisker (32512)
• Calgary, Alberta
28 Dec 10
she actually tried going to a clinic but my dad is able to stop her because he is intered on having a son. I guess if I happen to be female I would have been aborted for real. I have disorders and healthy problems because of it and I just deal with it. Trying to continue living, My mom and I are in good terms now but I'ms till not her favorite kid. Its always my oldest sister because she is smart, rich and successful.
@allyoftherain (7208)
• United States
27 Dec 10
I'm pro-life myself, and I don't think that it's fair to label all pro-lifers as zealots and sexist. I've never been to a pro-life rally, and I've never slammed a pro-choicer or called a woman who had an abortion a murderer. I believe that life begins at conception, and I've voted for and supported causes that share my belief. I believe that life is sacred and should be treasured and cherished... and not needlessly thrown away.
I don't think pro-choicers know how to respond to abortion survivors. I know you're not alone... there are other people who survived attempted abortions. Many of them are outspoken pro-life advocates. How do you argue against the humanity of someone like that? How can you politely say that their procedure was botched and in the future there would be fewer mistakes? It's partially because of the testimony of abortion survivors that I feel so strongly about the pro-life movement.
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@allyoftherain (7208)
• United States
28 Dec 10
Then she seems like the zealot to me. All you can really do is respectfully tell her your opinion. No matter how strongly one feels about a cause, they still need to take the time to respect and listen to the other point of view. It really doesn't sound like she was being the least bit respectful.
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@CaptAlbertWhisker (32512)
• Calgary, Alberta
28 Dec 10
thats what she did, I was being polite and respectful to her but she called me a zealot and she called me sexist. I never seen someone so obsessed with being pro-choice because she is really aggressive and pushy. I have no plans of being a spoke person of pro-life people but she almost forced me to do so.
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@CaptAlbertWhisker (32512)
• Calgary, Alberta
30 Dec 10
She finally left me alone but she didnt apologize, She is still obsessiveness about it. makes me feel that she secretly works for an abortion clinic because she is too dedicated about it, she is causing a lot of problems in the office, She had an argument with someone before sue to her feminism obsession. +-
@marguicha (216305)
• Chile
30 Dec 10
I don´t feel this post is asking whether I am pro or anti abortion. I rather think that this post is about everyone´s right to think as one wants, without having other people push you. And in that I agree. I like what Voltaire, the great philosopher said: "Monsieur l'abbé, I detest what you write, but I would give my life to make it possible for you to continue to write." This is about liberty of thought.
You don´t have to explain anything to that person because it seems she is not a person to understand much. But take it easy and don´t mind it.
I will not give here my thoughts on abortion. But I will say that you have all the right in the world to think and act as you want.
Take care!
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@marguicha (216305)
• Chile
31 Dec 10
I couldn´t agree more! If we start respecting the rest of the people we might see life as something bigger.
@CaptAlbertWhisker (32512)
• Calgary, Alberta
30 Dec 10
Indeed we have our right to choose our own paths and we dont wanted someone else trying to dictate what should we be and what we really are. We have right to follow our own stand without being forced and harassed. There is no need to attack each other because of different views.
@TheAdvocate (2392)
• Philippines
28 Dec 10
I am pro-life too, but I don't force people to believe in what I believe in. I know that different people have different experiences which help form what we are now. I have had no traumatic experience regarding abortion, but the nuns in my high school showed us a video on abortion which until now haunts me and is one of the reason why I am pro-life. Maybe that woman have had a traumatic experience which led her to become pro-choice. Her approach is a bit off-putting, but that's on her. Just ignore it, she'll get tired of it.
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@CaptAlbertWhisker (32512)
• Calgary, Alberta
28 Dec 10
She already left me alone about the issue, I was 10 when I found out that my mom tried to get rid of me, I heard a conversation between her and my dad and they didnt know I was already awake.
@deriellevc73 (982)
• Philippines
27 Dec 10
hello captalbertwhisker!
i understand your stand because of what you've gone through. Definitely, you have the right to feel that way for it's not that easy to discover that you had been almost aborted. we are all entitled to our own stand and opinions. Standing up for what you believed in is one but it's another thing when we try to shove it down the throat of another person. I mean, that's what that woman tried to do to you, right? forcing you to take her stand, to believe in what she believed in is like shoving her beliefs down your throat and its downright nasty.
i am pro-life for i am against abortion but i do believe that a woman has a choice whether to bear children or not, depending on her capacity, mentally and physiologically. However, a woman's choice should be made before she embark on getting pregnant, not during while she is already pregnant.
@CaptAlbertWhisker (32512)
• Calgary, Alberta
28 Dec 10
I'm not really a political person, I just gor pissed when people are trying to be pushy to convert you while you already stated you already have your stand, My life is not easy but I appreciate that the abortion failed and my mom's attempt to get rid of me didn't happen. I had been through a lot but I cherish life no matter how hard or hopeless.
