Welcome to America, please provide your DNA

@laglen (19782)
United States
February 27, 2011 7:15pm CST
The Department of Homeland Security is getting a new toy. A DNA tester. This is to combat illegal immigration and human trafficking. http://www.thedaily.com/page/2011/02/26/news-tsa-scanner-1-2/ Just imagine what this could lead to. Parking ticket = DNA. Keep in mind the original purpose of Social security numbers....
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@spalladino (17925)
• United States
28 Feb 11
I think parking tickets are a stretch...but many, if not all, (I don't know) states routinely take a DNA sample when someone is arrested. This has not only lead to the solving of some previously unsolved crimes but has also resulted in the release of several who were wrongly convicted. Social security numbers can be stolen...DNA cannot.
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@debrakcarey (19924)
• United States
28 Feb 11
You always see the bright side of everything Spalladino. Unfortunately, human nature has TWO sides. We are capable of such lofty, and such low behavior as to have produced Mother Theresa and Hitler. When it comes to obtaining power, I haven't seen many Mother Theresa's in office.
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@laglen (19782)
• United States
28 Feb 11
Spall, they are not talking about taking dna from prisoners. They are talking about taking it from people in airports. At what point do you say enough. In a post above yours it is pointed out that we cant ask for ID from illegals but now they will take DNA??
@laglen (19782)
• United States
2 Mar 11
Spall,, your rose colored glasses should be slipping by now. My issue is the infringement of MY rights. We say ok check DNA here. Next thing you know, they will have all of our DNA. Reading the article would provide you with much more info.
• United States
28 Feb 11
There definitely has to be some ramifications regarding DNA keeping. How is it possible that this is allowed in the military? I am not against using our DNA to learn more things about us in terms of health, science, or medical practices, but using DNA to persecute or keep people in check is preposterous. This sounds like a real life X-men situation.
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@laglen (19782)
• United States
1 Mar 11
or 1984 or minority report, the list goes on...
@debrakcarey (19924)
• United States
4 Mar 11
oh, but wasn't Tom Cruise cute in that movie? I'm being sarcastic laglen; the American public is to concerned with such things as celebrities and sports teams as to ever pay attention to the dire warnings we've had given us. Who wants to consider such awful things as actually happening. It's to mind boggling and to scary to actually consider it. So, they numb themselves with what the stars are wearing or marrying and do not pay attention to the content of the book or movie. How many times have I heard/read on here, "that will never happen in America, we have a Constitution". And when you point out that our Constitution has been slowly ignored and eroded, they say things like, but would you want rapists to go free? Or another 9/11 to happen.
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@laglen (19782)
• United States
5 Mar 11
great points! People do like the denial. By the way, tom cruise never did it for me. I am more partial to Ben Affleck and Brad Pitt. or Pierce Brosnan....
@hofferp (4739)
• United States
28 Feb 11
I think the whole thing needs to be put on hold until the possible ramifications can be discussed/debated/etc. and rules put in place to protect our civil rights/freedom. We're already headed down the slippery slope...we don't need a push.
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@laglen (19782)
• United States
28 Feb 11
I almost agree. But you can not convince me that this will ever be a good idea.
@hofferp (4739)
• United States
28 Feb 11
Yeah, I'm wondering what good DNA testing would do for illegal immigration, human trafficing, etc. They can't identify somebody by looking at them who's been here and deported and returns???? They need DNA to send them back to their mom and dad in Columbia, Iran, etc.???? I'd still like to hear all the pros...and cons... I can't even comprehend all the misuses!
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@laglen (19782)
• United States
1 Mar 11
I know what you mean, my head started spinning when I first read this.
• United States
6 Mar 11
sounds like an excuse for them to get a profile of everybody for future reference.. reminds me of that "gattica" movie with the "valids" and "in-valid" people.
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@laglen (19782)
• United States
9 Mar 11
yep more excuses and we just bend over and take it.
@Rollo1 (16685)
• Boston, Massachusetts
28 Feb 11
It took a while but it was bound to get here. They've already done this in the UK. At first it met resistance, now that the government is "rethinking" it, there are groups rising up to cry "thousands of rapists will go free!". If something like this gets off the ground, there will be no stopping it. It must be stopped before it starts with the Supreme Court ruling it unconstitutional, as it is. The Fourth Amendment would be violated. Fourth Amendment The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. I don't know about you, but I carry my DNA around in my person, and the government has no right to unreasonably search or seize anything in my person.
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@laglen (19782)
• United States
28 Feb 11
I agree and no I never leave home with out my DNA.
@matersfish (6311)
• United States
28 Feb 11
Comcast is really a POS here lately. I can't get the link to load in IE, Mozilla or Chrome. Grr! So help me out here in understanding this. Asking suspected illegals for any form of identification is comparable to Nazi Germany, and every feel-good, do-nothing on the planet points the finger at the racist Arizonans looking to get a handle on the problem. Right? Okay. But somehow catalog of everyone's DNA is somehow supposed to combat the problem? So help me out here in understanding this. Asking suspected illegals for any form of identification is comparable to Nazi Germany, and every feel-good, do-nothing on the planet points the finger at the racist Arizonans looking to get a handle on the problem, BUT asking for someone's DNA on spec to see if it matches the vast catalog is somehow supposedly better? That's the only way it would work. Obviously, you can't take an illegal's DNA, or else you'd know they were "illegal" before taking it and thus the "problem" wouldn't be a problem. So the only way to do it is to gather up every legal citizen in the country and catalog their DNA. Then, when someone is taken into custody or questioned or whatever, they've given a DNA screening to find out they don't match. To me, "Do you have ID?" is the better approach. If it's "yes," check out the identification to make sure it matches up. If it's "no," check further into it to make sure the person's not illegal. I guess I'm the stupid one. This would be infinitely farther than any government should ever reach.
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@laglen (19782)
• United States
28 Feb 11
you nailed it yes, we can take dna but not id?!
@debrakcarey (19924)
• United States
28 Feb 11
Sounds very new world order to me. Next thing is we'll all have to have those verichips installed in our bodies.
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@laglen (19782)
• United States
28 Feb 11
you know they want the chips in all of our IDs. We are not that far from it.
@webearn99 (1744)
• India
28 Feb 11
We are all on the way to loosing our privacy. There is a new policy of giving "Unique Identity Number" to citizens of India. I was finger printed, Iris scan done and a lot of private information like my bank account number, my Insurance number and all that taken. I am sure the next time I sneeze it will be known to the Government and its agents. The general population of the world has always fought against Dictatorship. Sadly, our democracies are sliding into a dictatorship. Watch out for the "Big Brother"
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@laglen (19782)
• United States
28 Feb 11
Big Brother has arrived and what scares me most is more people are not upset by it.
@Adoniah (7515)
• United States
28 Feb 11
Does anyone realize how illegal this is...They cannot legally do this. I mean I know that they are doing it, but the only reason they are getting away with it is because Americans are sooo stupid, lazy and ignorant that they will not do anything to stop this!!!! Where are all of the lawyers that used to scream STOP and sue the brains out of people for doing stuff like this. Have they all become cowards? Or is there too much money to be made on the Gov. side?
@laglen (19782)
• United States
28 Feb 11
No they are too busy suing mcdonalds for having hot coffee.
@sierras236 (2740)
• United States
28 Feb 11
The military is already screwed on that one. They already have DNA samples of those who join.
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@laglen (19782)
• United States
28 Feb 11
That to me, is reason enough to not enlist.
@epicure35 (2822)
• United States
2 Apr 11
If there is anything wrong, the current corrupt Dept. of Homeland Security, under the aegis of the liar Janet Napolitano will do it. Don't forget she said there is no border problem in AZ and that we conservatives and our military are "domestic terrorists". They have no intention of stopping illegal aliens, just of bullying any Americans possible into submission, as in TSA tactics being used to intimidate us.