Why is Trump getting so popular?

@laglen (19759)
United States
April 8, 2011 9:21am CST
Because he is not afraid to ask the tough questions. He is researching the Presidents background. At first he thought the birther issue was silly, now after some looking... he is changing his mind. One of the biggest problems with republicans is that they spout the conservative side until it comes time for election, then they run the moderate, most liberal person. This is why so many of us like Ron Paul or Donald Trump. Whether Obama was born here or not,atleast he is asking the questions.
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@irisheyes (4370)
• United States
9 Apr 11
Sorry, but I think Trump is just plain pandering. He knows all about publicity and it's worth and he is going for it as a way of testing the waters for a run at a presidency for which he is totally unqualified. (To their credit, I do not think either party will consider him). This birther thing is not a hard question. It's a question that has already been answered conclusively for any sane person and if you think it hasn't, go get a new copy of your own birth certificate. It will come up, in most states, exactly the way the president's did and it will allow you to get a passport, run for office etc....exactly the way Trump's came up when they ran it. The arrogance of Donald Trump assuming that he can run a country because he can presumabley run a company (really he just ran up too damn much debt to be allowed to fail) is what truly bothers me. On TV and in corporate America, Trump tells anybody who doesn't agree with him "You're fired". A US president can't do that. There is this little thing called diplomacy that prevents a president from "firing" the world leaders with whom he does agree. "Your fired" might work on The Apprentice but it won't work on Fidel Castro. I resented the implication that a top businessman could run a company when Ross Perot tried it but I REALLY resent it coming from Trump. In addition to being a failed, bankrupted businessman, I think he's just plain crass and he's now proving it.
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@laglen (19759)
• United States
9 Apr 11
You are preaching to the choir dear. I have already run a discussion of why I won't vote for Trump. Essentially what you said and then some. I will not vote for him no matter what ticket he is on. I brought this discussion up because he is asking the questions that everybody else claims only loons will ask. I think he is a train wreck waiting to happen. I am just sitting back and watching.
@irisheyes (4370)
• United States
14 May 11
Okay Laglen, but why not just leave the nutty questions to the nuts? Why does Trump lend some kind of credibility? He's been a publicity seeking nut for a long, long time. Being an East Coast multimillionaire doesn't change that. The only thing that saved him is that he was too big to fail and in that respect at least, he's no different from the federal government. So that qualifies him to raise questions that we don't recognie the right of others to raise?
@porwest (78761)
• United States
8 Nov
Looks like he proved you wrong. lol
@jb78000 (15139)
8 Apr 11
because he's researching obama's background? oh i doubt it. think it is much more likely because he, or rather his staff, have just profiled his potential supporters.
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@laglen (19759)
• United States
9 Apr 11
um some maybe...
• United States
10 Apr 11
I don't know. I really don't. But it seems to me Trump is more intelligent than to play to a small percentage of Americans so directly. His staff would need to be fired if the "profile" they brought back on potential supporters stated that their big issue was Obama's true place of birth. People in America are protesting over money and over government reach and the like. They're not out in droves over a birth certificate. The birthers are more in line with the truthers. There are only two reasons the birthers seem like a larger group than they are. 1: Obama's still in office. 2: Media won't STFU about it every time someone mentions "Obama" and "birth certificate" within an hour of one another. If that's really Trump's goal, to placate the birthers, he'll win about 5% of the vote, most likely, as everyone--save the loons, obviously--put issues like fiscal responsibility and employment far, far, far ahead of hypothetical birth cover-ups. I'm not sure I can see a guy savvy enough to do what he has done pretty much paint himself into a corner if he doesn't really believe it.
@jb78000 (15139)
10 Apr 11
well in this discussion alone we have figures on how many people give a flying banana about the birth certificate ranging from "lots" (your box below) "24 percent" (rollo's above) and now 5%. they've probably got more accurate figures. it doesn't matter anyway, it's a hot banana issue (or at least the media makes it out to be, which often makes it one) and crucially gets attention. you do realise mr trumpet's probably only doing this to drum up ratings for his next series of the apprentice?
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@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
8 Apr 11
Trump is a businessman. He's used to looking for angles and opportunities that others are missing and jumping into the open spot. He's obviously noticed that approximately zero of the GOP hopefuls have the huevos to even approach the birth certificate issue. He's simply picking up on something that 24% of the American public worry about and something that even 14% of Democrats are not sure about. His biggest problem is that his fresh and bold approach will work until he calls some important female reporter "honey" and half the nation drops their jaws to the floor. I don't think their "safe and moderate" candidates can win against Obama. They need someone like Paul or Trump who will talk straight and forget the political BS. They might need to avoid calling female reporters "honey" but they will be forgiven for not being politically correct all the time. I think that will feel like a refreshing change for most people. What worries me most about Trump is that for the life of me, I don't seem to know who he's married to now. We all knew Ivana and Marla, but who would be the First Lady? I think he'll have to work on that.
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@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
8 Apr 11
perhaps a female reporter 'honey' can snag the role? Good to see you back Rollo! I love the sense of humor you bring to the board!
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@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
8 Apr 11
I'm liking Allen West or Cain right now. The libertarians are sounding good. Read their platform and it is in line with my thinking. Have you looked into what they say? http://www.lp.org/platform
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@laglen (19759)
• United States
8 Apr 11
First Lady Honey - has a nice ring to it eh? I agree the libertarians are looking better and better. I really think a third party candidate has a real chance this go around.
@epicure35 (2814)
• United States
11 Apr 11
Be very sure that Obama/Soetoro/Dunham/Soebarkh, aka who else, was NOT born in the US. However, it is really just a smokescreen for the fact that he fails the threshhold test for eligibility: must have two US citizen parents. Place of birth doesn't matter after that. He's out at first base and even the State Dept. declared him a "dual-national" 7/10. Folks, that means he can NEVER be "natural born" or a legitimate president. THE END. Trump, however, goes where Congress, the Courts, the media and other fools fear to tread. They are cowards; he is a hero. Pray for Donald Trump and his family. Obama's minions cannot buy him off; I fear to think of their other methods of "removing" their opposition.
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@laglen (19759)
• United States
12 Apr 11
Actually Annie, it seems to me that Epicure was speaking and showing documentation of this even before our long lost friend kennyrose.
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
12 Apr 11
You DO realize if that myth you keep repeating, which you might have gotten from Rose, were true President Obama would never have been able to be a candidate to begin with, don't you? It was NEVER a secret that his father wasn't a US citizen. He didn't have to be! Donald Trump a HERO? now that's hilarious. He's a egotistical, arrogant a$$hole with a really bad hair piece and more money than common sense. I don't need to waste my prayers on Trump, he'll find lots more people to - in his own words - "screw" to make more money. Annie
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@epicure35 (2814)
• United States
14 Apr 11
Laglen, thanks for your kind response re the issue, but it doesn't matter who raised, it just that it was raised. And, again, annie, you really just fell off the turnip truck re how someone can get on the ballot. I have a copy in my home of the fraudulent document submitted by Nazi Pelosi and the DNC. I obtained it from the office of the CA Secy of State. Nowhere does it contain the vital phrase..."is eligible under the Constitution". 49 States received the exact same document. ONLY HI received the same, WITH THE CRITICAL PHRASE INSERTED! Do you not understand "fraud, collusion, sedition, treason"? Where there's an underhanded will, there's a way.
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@zralte (4178)
• India
12 Apr 11
Not being an American, and not really interested in politics, I don't know much about the political scene over there. I would just like to mention that I like Donald Trump (from The Apprentice, of course - always one or two seasons late, but we get to watch it ). I don't know if he will make a good or bad President or if he is President Material or not. I like the way he approach things. No nonsense, just straight out. He does not beat around the bush, he comes out and say what he wants to. Most importantly, he is not afraid of anything or anyone, and from what I hear, not really scared of tarnishing his image either. I would vote for him, if I have a vote....
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@laglen (19759)
• United States
12 Apr 11
lol I know what you mean. I like the discussions he is inspiring but to be honest I would not vote for him.
@lacieice (2060)
• United States
10 Apr 11
I think Bill Cosby said it best...the only thing Trump is running is his mouth.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
10 Apr 11
Annie
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@laglen (19759)
• United States
11 Apr 11
Absolutely Trump is running his mouth. But he IS asking good questions.
• United States
10 Apr 11
Not to bash Bill. I like the guy. But I can't be the only one noticing that a lot of these older comics are extremely bitter these days. That's nothing to do with politics or Trump. I just wonder what it is that the seemingly funniest people around have perma-frowns. Hell, if they can't make it through life with a smile...
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• United States
9 Apr 11
Donald Trump is speaking out loud the thoughts so many are thinking but not saying because of political correctness. Hurrah! Go DONALD!
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@laglen (19759)
• United States
10 Apr 11
That is exactly it., I dont like the guy myself, but I love that he is saying the unmentionables.
@Netsbridge (3253)
• United States
8 Apr 11
I think Donald Trump is becoming popular politically because he is the Trump! Though I like Trump, I believe Donald Trump would never fit into any rigid political party. Trump is a thinking businessman and with very little diplomacy. (Laughs) Hi there, Donald Trump! Good-luck, Trump! By the way, Barack Obama is a political conservative; individuals often identified by their obsession with war!
@laglen (19759)
• United States
9 Apr 11
interesting view point....
• United States
8 Apr 11
I think it is great that Trump is asking questions and getting peoples' attention. However I am not sure if he would make a good president as he is very opinionated and IMO lacks the diplomacy necessary for the presidency.
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@laglen (19759)
• United States
9 Apr 11
I agree but I also agree it is good somebody is asking the questions.
@matersfish (6306)
• United States
10 Apr 11
I don't know if Trump is playing to the crowd or if he really believes it. A lot of Americans really believe the whole birth certificate issue! Do folks simply pander to the left when they shout out "BUSH LIED" and that Bush was behind 911? Some do, I'm sure. But a lot of people legitimately believe that Bush is a terrorist, and having money or being successful does not mean that you do not believe the same things as folks less fortunate. I question whether he's playing it up or actually believes it, because we're talking Donald Trump here. He does not need that to get attention. Half of the other stuff he believes in, like outright hijacking the Middle East for all its oil, is quite enough to get attention. His TV show is enough to get attention. Where there's attention, there's votes. There's no better example of that in history than President Obama. Let's be honest with it here. A huge friggin' chunk of the yes-we-canners haven't the slightest clue of anything Obama stands for. They don't know "politics" and don't know who Joe Biden is or that candidate Obama and President Obama are different people. A huge chunk of his support circle is still saying "give him time" and that he "inherited a mess" and that "he's helping" without really knowing what they're talking about. They're barking out talking points the same way they jumped on the wagon when they saw the t-shirts and realized Obama was the "cool" candidate. So you don't need to be outlandish to get votes. You just need to be a celebrity. In general, it's true that a person asking anything about the birth certificate may just be biased against Obama and wanting to stir the pot. But it's also the case that his supporters just pooh-pooh ANY criticism of the man and dismiss it as hard partisanship or even racism. So WTF... what's the difference? With the polarized world we live in, although some may see it all as black or white or either-or, it's simply not always the case. Someone can raise the issue without doing so because he's black, Whoopie, or because it's something a lot of "right wing" people believe in. (But it's only a "right" issue because the left won't touch it. That's how these things work. The supporting party, even if it has questions, buries them to make it look even more political than it is.) I hope Trump shakes it up. I can't call it. I don't know if he's full of sits or is genuinely wondering whether or not Obama was born elsewhere. But I find great humor in Donald out there and I find great satisfaction to think that the usual suspect schmucks might have to stand for something more than party slogans this go 'round if they want to shake him. Throughout this whole budget mess, I didn't hear crap from Mitt or Newt or any other supposedly big-time principled Repubican. I heard The Donald, Palin and the "celebrity" Republicans (not that Trump is a Republican, of course) speaking on the issue. That tells me already that Mitt and them are too cowardly to stand so strongly on our current problems. They're worried to come out on the wrong side of something, and that's just BS. Trump is fearless. I admire that. Trump-Palin 2012... just so I can LMAO at the 200 posts per day criticizing them for the same things these hypothetical posters call bigoted and meanspirited now. I'm a-wishin'
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@laglen (19759)
• United States
11 Apr 11
A Trump Palin ticket would make for great conversation I agree! I am glad you pointed out that Trump is also speaking on a plethora of other issues and speaking while the rest are quiet. Very telling.
@porwest (78761)
• United States
8 Nov
He is more popular now than he has ever been and I think his path to return to the White House once again in 2024 is pretty clear. Onward and upward, even if I disagreed with him on the birther issue.