What do you say about how your religion treats women?

United States
April 22, 2011 10:26pm CST
I try to like everyone and to be kind to everyone but I find myself as a woman at times disliking how many men of various religions treat women... I find it to be extremely offensive and immoral when women are devalued, treated like servants whose only role and function is to cater to men or to take care of the house and the children, denied the right to education and employment, denied the right to speak freely wherever they choose to speak, denied the right to drive, denied the right to explore their environments unattended by men, accosted by men who blame them for asking for it when the men could have easily refrained from that bad behavior, blamed for the sins of men and made to suffer more for them then then men, treated harshly by those who should give them comfort, sold into slavery, exploited physically and sexually, beaten, harmed because of the embarrassment of men who should have other ways to deal with their embarrassment that do not involve harming women, etc. I find it fascinating to hear those who say that these religions are favorable to women when such behaviors of men against women are tolerated and even in some cases condoned or recommended by the leaders of these religions. I am wondering how any woman can belong to these religions? I am also wondering if there are any decent men in these religions who are kind to women and who treat women fairly as partners and not as children or slaves? I would love to hear from you about this topic.
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@Galena (9123)
27 Apr 11
my religion is very respectful of women. woman and man together create life. we all come from a woman, she holds the power of creation within her. how could a religion not revere women and still claim to honour life.
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• United States
28 Apr 11
I am wondering which is your religion? I am glad that it respects women. Thanks for sharing here.
@Galena (9123)
28 Apr 11
I am Pagan. most Pagan religions, I can't speak for all of them, as I haven't studied all of them in depth, as paths that honour the force that creates life, respect that both male and female has it's place in this, and that it's the female body where life begins.
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@Tushavi (2078)
• Karachi, Pakistan
23 Apr 11
Well, I am Muslim, & I Believe on Equality of Women, But Not Open & Free to anything, they must follow Islamic Rules & Regulation, Women should Respect His Husband, Because After God Husband is Second Respectable Person for Women, You Think Islam stops women for education??? No Never, Our Religion fully & Openly Said That, Prophet Muhammad Peace Be Upon You Says That "TO GET EDUCATION IS COMPULSORY FOR MEN & WOMEN" also Our Prophet (P.B.U.H) Says that in order to Increase the Women Value in Society, "HEAVEN IS BENEATH THE MOTHER'S FEET" In last I Clarify you, Islam is one of the great religion for every women in world, Islam Protects Womens give them better life Instead of "BEGGING & BJ BOSSES FOR CHEAP MONEY", Islam Said that Its Duty for Husband to fulfill the women needs not its a Duty of Women to Take care & Earn Money for Husband, If you Think Openly withut Media & any Other Lies of World, You find the Greatest way for women is to Accept islam & be a Muslimah, In Last May Allah Forgive me for every wrong writing & I am also sorry for you to my bad english & broken grammar, have a nice day & take care.
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• United States
28 Apr 11
My appologies for being a bit intense and ungracious in my last response to you. Thanks for posting here. I know it is not easy for you to get such a reaction as I gave to your post. I must admit that I do have some questions about some of the things that I have heard from some of the people who practice your religion... Yet if you will read on to look at what I have written to others... It is not just your religious tradition that I have a bone to pick with or have some disagreement in the area of male/female relations. I would not switch to belong to any religious tradition that I do not presently align with so please refrain from taking that comment of mine about your religion personally... It is though true that your belief that women would only choose to be something other than Muslim if they were lied to is rather odd to me. as it does not go along with my experience or belief and was in fact so odd to me that my response to you was a bit more forceful and blunt than I would otherwise have been.
@_sketch_ (5709)
• United States
23 Apr 11
I'm sure that there are "good" people belonging to all various religions and who treat women nicely. I know what you are talking about and I agree. Many religions certainly seem very misogynistic to me as well. I suppose that's part of the reason why I am not religious. But views do change and religious/spiritual beliefs evolve with the changing culture. People are demanding equality and freedom all over the world. The more technology there is, the more connected the world becomes, and the more connected the world becomes, the more we are opened up to so much different information, conflicting information, which allows us to question these sort of things that are going on, enabling us to make change.
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• United States
27 Apr 11
I agree with you that there are "good" people in all religious traditions... and that many people do in fact treat women nicely. I thank God for those people who do. I too am glad for the interconnectedness of all people which forces those who are sexist because of their religious beliefs and because of their culture to rethink their position and which helps women stand up for the better treatment of themselves and their daughters.
• United States
27 Apr 11
Oops... forgot... I meant to thank you for posting. Thanks for Posting here. Best wishes to you.
@ritzz07 (791)
• India
23 Apr 11
religion,culture and behaviour this are three different things,i m an indin and i would like to say only in india or indian religion people worship women for example-goddes of wealth is lakshmi, godess of eduacation is sarswati(shardadevi),godess of love radharani amd manymore sita durga kali and bhuvaneshwari.indian religion and culture both says respect women however behaviour of some indian is horrible after all folk are same allover.in india we do celabrate rakhi(thread ceremony)every year which is a good sign of good culture and that is to protect a women but still rape cases are happening in india
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• United States
28 Apr 11
Thanks for bringing out the difference between religion, culture and behavior. I was given the name of Rukmini and am familiar with the worship of the God and Goddess. I am aware of the Rakhi Day which causes brothers to protect sisters. It is a noble tradition. I am sorry that rapes continue to occur there. It seems that they occur all over the globe. It is a pity that men and women of all religions and cultures do not treat each other better more as equals with more love of each other.
@nsawork (28)
• India
23 Apr 11
See the basic thing is that how you treat womens in different societies and it all depends on the culture out of which the religion stems. And what i have come to know and observe is that the religion plays a very important part in the lives of women. Yes i have seen the injustice that is being melted out every now and then to many women in the name of religion but nothing is above the level of mankind and this is what gives us the power to be in the society.
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• United States
28 Apr 11
Yes, it does seem to be the culture that is very important to look at. And if the culture devalues or values and appreciates women, the women in the religious tradition that springs out of that culture will likewise feel devalued or valued. It seems that women often are the ones who prop up religions as they often are the ones to teach the children about their religious traditions... I wonder sometimes why they do not teach their sons better to appreciate them and all women. I do in fact value religions yet still would like all women and children to be treated better than they often are by people who practice religions.
@SViswan (12071)
• India
23 Apr 11
In Hinduism,godesses are revered too. In fact, my family prays to a Goddess...but this doesn't stop men from treating their women like they are children or slaves. Since our state follows a matriarchal system, we are generally better off than the women in the other states of India. Most men in our community...especially in my family...treat women very well. My aunts are highly educated and are respected by their spouses for being who they are. They are partners in their relationships. Even my uncles (except one) treat their wives with respect even when they disagree on points. Can't say the same about my husband's side of the family...even though the number of women in their family is more than that of men.
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• United States
27 Apr 11
Thanks for sharing about Hinduism. I am aware of the male/female aspect... Shiva/Shakti(Durga/Kali/Parvati,etc.) Krishna/Laxmi(Rahda,Rukmini, etc.) and I am very aware that many women in that religious tradition in practice do get treated like servants. It seems that in the Matriarchal societies both men and women get treated well but in the patriarchal ones the women and children do not get as well treated. I am glad your side of the family treats women well. I am sorry for the women on your husband's side of the family.
@dznurani (160)
• Indonesia
23 Apr 11
I don't know which religion you're talking about but pointing to your topic I'd like to share about how my religion treats women. I'm a moslem and in my religion women (mothers) position is higher than men (father) where children must respect, love, and obey their mother first than the father. women are free to drive, to speak her opinion, to go to work, to study abroad, etc. in fact my religion told us to learn and study until our last breath. men are the head of the family who have big responsible but doesn't mean they can treat women like servant. treating women bad, like servant, harm, beat, etc are consider sins in my religion.
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• United States
27 Apr 11
I was talking about your religion but also others... It seems that in some families the true nature of the religion is practiced and in others it is not... In your's it seems that perhaps it is yet I have met women who have been abused by Muslim men who believe that their religion gives them the right to abuse them. It may be a cultural thing ... One women I met seemed to think so but it does seem to be a wide spread thing. If a woman is not considered passive or traditional enough, if she dares speak up and say that perhaps the men should cook, perhaps the men should have to bear some of the weight in the household, perhaps just perhaps she should have help if she works outside the home and even brings in more money than the man because she is better educated than him, she is abused by her husband and her in laws will give her reproach and abuse her too rather than scolding or punishing her husband and they will all say that she is going against her religion even though she is a devoted and good Muslim woman. I have heard this too many times to believe that all Muslim women are treated well. It seems to me that many are indeed not. I know that the same thing occurs in other religions. I am far from picking on just the Muslim religion in my complaint about the maltreatment of women.
@cet1987 (209)
• Malaysia
23 Apr 11
Hello whiteheron, From what I have read from this post or from other post. I knew you point it to Muslim. I have written down the correction for this misunderstanding. If I am wrong, please tell me what religion it is. In Islam, there are no such things that denied women freedom. Women are free to drive, free to futher study. Laws that denied women freedom get education or drive or both is not the religion laws but it is a nation laws.
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• United States
27 Apr 11
Hi Cet1987, It does seem to me that the Muslim religion is not exactly pro women in its application especially when Muslim Sharia Law is imposed... It could be that it is a cultural thing that I am seeing. I have talked with one Muslim women who believed this was the case. But the question that comes to my mind is why don't the religious leaders seem to speak out against the maltreatment of women publically? And why don't they speak out against other wrongs? They seem to keep quiet and to even encourage what most people would consider barbaric treatment against women. Why is it that Muslim men under Sharia penalize women for getting raped when it is the men who do the crime by making it almost impossible for her to get redress for her injuries. Why is it that men are allowed to throw acid on women or to hit them in the square with sticks for not wearing the clothing that they approve of or for otherwise not living up to family standards... I must admit to getting angry when Muslim men come to my country and to other countries and carry out these practices here. They deserve themselves to be victims of the same barbarism that they inflict. I am a peaceful person typically but frankly do feel angry at these people who do this... I know that the majority of Muslims do not do these things but it seems that a fair amount of Muslim men are guilty of these wrongs and do not ever seem to pay for them. I know other religious traditions are guilty of maltreating women. I was in fact mentioning all of the religious traditions but I have to admit that when I see how women are treated by many Muslim men, I wonder why any woman would ever want to be Muslim.
@bird123 (10518)
• United States
23 Apr 11
Religion teaches that women are second class. Religions claim that they are the word of God, however I'm here to tell you THIS IS NOT GOD!!!! Men have been trying to control women since the beginning of time. They use religion to do it. One must question why any woman would belong to religion but they have been taught since childhood this is God. This in itself is a crime. There are lots of lessons people will have to live before understanding is achieved. I am a man and I demand equality in all my relationships with women. If I see they won't take their half, I encourage them to meet me in the middle. We are all spiritual beings in our true natures. Gender is a parameter of a physical body. Without our physical body, it would mean nothing to us. In short, all God's children are the same. People might be surprised to know that equality is better for men as well. We should all do like God. Allow total freedom and stop trying to control each other. People will find there is much more to discover that way.
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• India
2 Jun 12
Our religion has always treated woemn in best manner posible.