Should priests remain single or celibate?

Philippines
September 16, 2011 6:57am CST
I have seen on the news that many priests these days go out of their profession and marry, have a family. But they aren't accepted by the church unless they get something from the Vatican in Rome... The ex-priest says that having a family and responding to the needs of the flesh doesn't prevent them from committing themselves and serving the Lord... I don't really know what to make out of this, everyone falls in love... why can't priests? Even apostles married..
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@rappeter13 (8608)
• Romania
16 Sep 11
I am protestant and in my religion priests are allowed to marry. In fact, my father is a priest and he I don't really understand why the Catholic Church is so against priest to marry. God has said that we should multiply, so why shouldn't they multiply also, because the majority of them would raise responsible, good citizens, I believe.
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• Philippines
26 Sep 11
I do agree with all your views my friends. And since we each have different religious affiliation but in our hearts we knew we are worshiping the same God. Yes, we knew that most Evangelist or Protestant pastor are not required to do the same thing like that of a Priest in proclaiming the words God. Researches said that before there is no restriction if one likes to be a priest either single or married. But now as a common practice aspiring priest should remain single if he wants to be one. But if the priest's decided to get married he must ask permission from the head of the Catholic Church and if granted he must leave the priesthood.
• India
18 Sep 11
I think all these are based on a set of rules that they believe. As it is part of faith and as it is instructed or insisted by their own religion, where they have faith, they simply follow it. No one actually 'think' why and why not. It is the real followers who observe it and not only in Christianity, which ever religion, if they got a conventional form or formality for certain set of process, they are liable to obey it or they will expel them from it. And as long as they want to be the part of the religion, they have to obey and if they resist, they will be isolated or they will neglected from the rest of the people, which will degrade their social status, which in turn will harm somewhere in the process of life. So in this regard, no one will take a risk against their faith or religion where they belongs. Even though they have silent consent on this. They also may be thinking in such a way but unfortunate is that they cannot raise the voice against it, as they very will aware of the consequences. I know about 5-6 different forms of Christians and there are few group allows the priests to marry and have children. As Sanjay said, I am also Hindu by birth and one Hindu family surrounded by 100s of Christian families. Thank-s
• Romania
17 Sep 11
I see. Like I said, my father is a protestant priest and we have a normal family. He can do his work well and he can still have a family. But if this is how the Catholic Church sees the problem, I cannot do anything against it.
@aerous (13434)
• Philippines
19 Oct 11
I think priest is more and more to be a sinner in that particular. Because they are the one who transgress the commandment of God. In Genesis of the first book of the bible it said "go and multiply and to suppress". So they are the one who refuse the said obligation... In the bible there is no verse that prohibit any person to get marriage instead commanded us to get marriage and be one as flesh... All teaching that teach by the priest is contradict to which the bible say. If you analyze what they teach it is very vague... They are against contraceptives because as they say it will be against the commandment of God about the verse "go and multiply" but they are prohibit to get marriage?
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• Philippines
23 Mar 21
That's why it is very confusing for me too
@chiyosan (30184)
• Philippines
16 Sep 11
i think priests were made to vow celibacy because they need to foocus onb their vocation; that is to only serve God and no one else. Christians though, have found it otherwise; having a wife if you are a pastor is not a problem; she can and should be able to help you with the works for God. of course it should not prove as a hindrance to whatever you can do for God himself. If catholic church finds it helpful for them to consider changing this, i think they should be open to have a talk about the same issue within their congregation.
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• Philippines
23 Mar 21
Yes, that is one main reason too.
@sid556 (30960)
• United States
26 Sep 11
Hi Stanley, I don't understand it either and it's just another reason why I don't subscribe to any organized religion. Why should the priests or nuns have to follow rules different than any other human being? They are after all just mere mortals, right? From my understanding, their purpose is to help others to understand the bible and it's teachings. They aren't superior to us and should not be held to higher standards. I've always questioned that amongst other things. Just doesn't make much sense to me.
@sid556 (30960)
• United States
28 Sep 11
I do understand rules are made to be followed and they should be. Still they are man-made rules and it only makes sense to review them and possibly change them.
• Philippines
28 Sep 11
Well, I guess rules are made to be followed. They made their vows and being celibate is one way to keep their commitments to God. I guess before they say they accepts married man to be a priest but now they have changed it. I don't really know who made this rules and I think too that it's not written in the Bible.So my guess is as a tradition it continuous up to this day.
• Philippines
29 Sep 11
Well we can't debate on that issue but I respect your opinion my friend. Yeah, rules are man made, and I guess they all are. Maybe the Catholic church have tackled that issue already and yet they stick to their practice so we can not compel them if they believe it's for the congregation's own good.
@francesca5 (1344)
16 Sep 11
i think it would be in the interests of the catholic church to change the rules on this,i think that little boys would be a whole lot safer, in the company of a priest, as a result. i find it strange that they have interpreted the bible so literally, and in some ways, as a woman i find it quite offensive, as if we women some how caused the fall of man. i think it places unreasonnable restrictions upon people who want to become priests, and its therefore not surprising that they have got into the mess they have. but anyway, i could go on about this for a long time............
• Philippines
24 Sep 11
Yeah, I think it's a good idea too. But a man who have decided to join the priesthood must be committed to follow the Church rules. And becoming one, he is already married to the Church itself. As you have mentioned some priests have committed abuses making use of their profession as a cover to consummate their earthly desires targeting young boys. So I guess there should have some amendments or modify some of it's rules .
• Philippines
25 Sep 11
It's a fact no one can be like Jesus. The most we can do especially the priests, is at least follow his teachings. Maybe the head of the Catholic Church is just following what had been there before. To help the Church and spread the words of Jesus. And the most these priest could do is to remain single and concentrate on their works and reach more people.
24 Sep 11
i think there is something a bit vain in the presumption, which seems to exist in the catholic church, that by their priests remaining celibate, then they can be like jesus or his disciples. as there was probably a whole lot more to it than that. and they can never be them, they can continue their work, but they cannot be them. it just seems illogical to believe that copying jesus in some symbolic way, like forcing priests to be celibate, means they are like him. and it devalues him, as his connection to god was an emotional and intellectual one, and not a symbolic one, and there are many others in the bible who were seen as good men but had wives. joseph after all, would not have got a mention at all, without mary!
@Harmonics (251)
• Philippines
29 Sep 11
Well, to marry or not is a personal thing. But what is the scriptural basis that priest should celibate? In the bible you can read many who centered their life in serving God yet did not celibate.
• Philippines
30 Sep 11
Yeah, Priests have their choices. And they were given enough time too to think for themselves if they really want to be one. I guess it is not stated in the Bible that to be a priest , he must practice celibacy. But as a practice the vow of celibacy is a requirement before one can become a priests. He could do so too, if the priests wants to get married or to have a partner in life. He must submit a request to the regional head of the Catholic church which in turn was forwarded to the Vatican for approval and once the priest marries he will ceased to be one.
• Philippines
4 Oct 11
Yes, it's a matter of choice for those who wants to be a priest. It's a tradition being practiced by aspiring priests.
• Philippines
30 Sep 11
I see. So that makes celibacy more of a tradition rather than scriptural.
@JoyfulOne (6232)
• United States
16 Sep 11
I find it interesting that in history, prior to the year 1123 when the First Lateran Council banned it, priests used to be allowed to get married. Many priests were married back then. In an article written by Father John Shuster (a Roman Catholic priest) he says that 39 of the past Popes were married, and that in 1993 Pope John Paul II publicly said that "celibacy is not essential to the priesthood." The celibacy issue grew in 1074 when Pope Gregory VII made it law that 'anyone to be ordained must first pledge celibacy', because 'the church cannot escape the clutches of the laity unless priests first escape the clutches of their wives.' It appears that the celibacy/single issue was not biblical law, or even bible oriented, but a man-made (or should I say 'Pope made' issue) that continues to this day. I'm not Catholic, but I believe that with the making of this law it leads the priests more able to stray. In our area there have been so many priests convicted of molesting children, as well as other improprieties. In view of all of this, I don't understand why priests are still not allowed to marry in this day and age. Seems to me that a man-made law by the Pope could be over-turned by a Pope. If interested, here is a link to Father John's article, I found it fascinating and very educational. http://johnshuster.com/thirtynine_popes.htm
• Philippines
25 Sep 11
Thanks for the link you have provided my friend. It's really informative. So this thing about celibacy is just practice and not included in the doctrine of the Church. It's just a tradition being followed by the priests. So because at present it's being practiced they are not allowed to get married.
@Celanith (2327)
• United States
17 Sep 11
Because the Roman Catholic church is a doctrine of demons. They ignore the scripture " it is better to marry than to burn" They ignore that marriage is fine. They take the apostle Paul as an example he did not marry but chose to be celibate but Peter was married as were some of the others. Even if Christ had wanted to be married it would not have been a sin for him to marry. He knew however what he had to do and chose not to be married because it would have left a widow and maybe orphans but he could have and knew if he had chose to and knew he was going to die as he laid his life down. He would still have had brothers to look out for his widow had he married. I know some think he did marry. We only get a glimpse of Christs life not the daily hour by hour life he led nor what any of the others did daily. There is no reason at all for a priest or nun not to marry other than stupidity and foolishness it goes against what God said to do in the first place.
• Philippines
28 Sep 11
I think it was not stated in the Bible that priest literally can not marry and have a wife. But as a tradition and to follow whoever initiated this celibacy issue those who wants to be a priest should submit to this provision. Anyway they are given enough time to think over and over again until such time that they are really sure of themselves. And once a priest after being one, decided again to marry he will first asked permission to the higher ranking official in the Catholic church to walk out of priesthood and get married.
@Amanda81587 (3042)
• United States
17 Sep 11
I really do not know what to say about this because I am not catholic. I am Christian and I know that the preachers have wives so I do nit see why a priest can not. Maybe if they let priests have a family they would stop rapping little boys. It seems like thats all we see on tv anymore when it comes to priests. I think every one needs love and in the bibles there is love throughout it all. I mean overall we are all human and it is in our nature.
• Philippines
23 Sep 11
Not all priests rape little boys... Some priests are really good people.. I think they can still get love through the community they preach to.. Thanks for responding.
• United States
24 Sep 11
No not all people are the same but this is a lot of what you hear on the news anymore. They can find love in the community yes that is true but what about physical love?
• Philippines
28 Sep 11
@ Amanda I will not disagree on your views about this issue because we all knew we have our own interpretation and views with regards to the beliefs we have been brought up regarding the religion we are affiliated with. But we all knew that we all are worshiping the same God. I think the priests once ordained, the most probable is he want to give love not physical love but to fulfill preaching the word of God. And yes, they are more vulnerable to temptation I guess it do happens too with other congregation because being human we are susceptible to temptation. @ sid, Yes, absolutely the priest who engages in such acts are pedophiles and used the priest's profession to lure young boys. Because most of the time young boys and girls are preferred by priests to help in teaching the words of God. Before they say that the priesthood accepted married man to be one of them. But now I think it became a tradition that one should accept to be celibate before anyone can be a priest.
@lady1993 (27225)
• Philippines
19 Oct 11
I think so since God did remain celibate his entire life..but the apostles didn't. So I am really confused now. I have heard of some priests leaving since they want to start a family.. So maybe they should be allowed to have one.
• Philippines
19 Oct 11
I guess that is why we are given free will. So it's the priest choice if he wants to follow the tradition to be celibate and be like Jesus. Teach and proclaim His words to the world.
@leinrix (490)
• Philippines
17 Sep 11
i remember when i was still on my high school days i ask my religion teacher that questions and i dont know if her answer give justice to my questions because she said that if a priest was married and have her own married life it may distract him whenever he preaches just for example the priest was preaching then her child bothers him that he want ice cream so he will be distracted he cant focus on his preaching
• Philippines
26 Sep 11
Maybe they want the Priests to follow what Jesus have said to his disciples. Leave their family and all material things to concentrate in spreading His teachings to the world.Being celibate I guess is one way of committing themselves to God.
• India
18 Sep 11
You are right. To not to marry, they got 100s of reasons and its own justifications. And it is observed for the betterment of the society or for the sake of religion and sacrifice. They are supposed to serve God and he should free from all other physical and social relations. That is why even after become a priest, they are supposed to keep away from all kind of relations like father, mother, brother, sister etc. They are supposed to see everyone equally and many more. That is why I told that in doing so, they have their own justifications and those who are willing or ready for such a sacrifice is only selected for the priesthood. It is somewhat based on the Roman Catholic and not from other believers. Thank-s
@hexebella (1136)
• Philippines
16 Sep 11
The celibacy for the priests is the rule implemented by the catholic church which I believe is not biblical. There is a verse in the new testament, I just don't remember exactly, I think in the epistles of Paul saying that a good bishop is a husband to one wife...... Serving God is not only by being a celibate and who knows that these priests are really celibates? When they remove their costumes...I don't know how it is called in English....and they went to the bars and take ladies...who can identify them anyway...they are still humans and have natural physical needs....
• Philippines
23 Sep 11
I believe it is biblical though, or they just want to follow Jesus' example... But maybe it is also because the Church is their wife too, like Jesus is the spouse of the Church..
@AJsMom (157)
• Philippines
26 Sep 11
Priests made a vow of celibacy and because of that they are obliged to remain sexually unattached to any woman. I believe that the vow was made to make sure that when they serve God and the parish nothing or no one will get in the way. But this priests are still human, and we must not condemn them if they have failed to remain faithful to their vows because it is only God who makes the final judgement. For all we know, they can still serve their purpose in life even when they leave the church for a woman. Accepting the vocation of priesthood is really tough that is why the church tells us to pray for them too so that they may carry on their duties faithfully.
• Philippines
28 Sep 11
Yes, they made a vow to preach and served God and his people. But being one is really hard to do. One must really be determined to resist temptation because as a human being we are prone to such. I think they are given permission to marry if the higher officials of the Church approved their permission to leave the priesthood.
@WakeUpKitty (8694)
• Netherlands
16 Sep 11
It is not up to me to decide if priests should remain single or celibate. I never understood the idea behind it nor who made it up once. But it is clear to me that it's very hard for most of them to live celibate. I agree with that ex-priest that having a partner/family has nothing to do with serving the lord (like we see in other churches). It should be a free choice to get married (which is as I believe normal according to the bible). Let's hope there will be less kids/boys be raped then too.
• Philippines
23 Sep 11
Yes, it is really hard to live a life free from intimate love from other people... It must be a very big sacrifice for them and they must love God s much that some of them remain celibate forever..