An account two years old still counts as new, eh?

@inedible (768)
Singapore
November 17, 2011 5:42am CST
So I go to the "discussions" drop-down list. I go to the "new user" option, which I thought was supposed to show me posts made by newly-created accounts. I click on a topic by a user with only one post. The date of the post? "Two years ago", according to myLot. I'm guessing myLot uses post count to determine who's new, rather than the actual age of the account. Either that, or the site is just wonky. Well, anyways, to make this topic a real discussion: When do you start considering someone a veteran user? Do you judge them by account age, number of posts, or quality of posts (or all of the above)? For me, I'd go with post number because I can see that number above their posts. It's easier to see and is therefore less work to look up is what I'm saying.
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@owlwings (43915)
• Cambridge, England
17 Nov 11
The discussions listed under "new user" do contain some apparent anomalies because it lists discussions started by people who have posted very little, regardless of when the account was actually opened. Many people have come here, posted just one discussion and then left, to be seen no more! A "veteran user" is generally regarded as being someone with a high User Rating but this is not always true because there are a few users who have been here for five years and more but who periodically close their account and start a new one. It's important to realise that the User Rating is NOT a true 'post count'. It doesn't take into account discussions which have less than two responses (or a response and a comment) or second and subsequent responses and comments made by a person in a particular discussion. Although it is a general guide to how active a person has been, that person may actually have made MANY more posts than their User Rating suggests if they are in the habit of replying to every response in their own discussions, for example. I very often judge a "veteran" by how well they know MyLot and how accurately they respond to questions about the way MyLot works.
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@inedible (768)
• Singapore
17 Nov 11
Does that mean anyone who actually read the rules automatically becomes a veteran to you? As for what you mentioned about a "true" post count, I am aware that topics with no replies are not counted, but I think this could make it better than a true post count since it would only count topics that others have considered worth replying to (or at least, topics that other myLot users can relate to). I think it doesn't count any comments on user replies at all, and only counts direct replies to the topic, but I may be wrong on this. I do recall that commenting without making a direct reply does not make the topics show up under the "responded" page. But it is a very good point - I think I've seen discussion replies that have more comments than the rest of the topic. So, you're right - people who actually have discussions here could have a lot more posts than the counter indicates.
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@owlwings (43915)
• Cambridge, England
17 Nov 11
There's a big difference between reading the rules (and other documentation) and actually understanding them and being able to explain them correctly and usefully to other people! It would take more than just 'reading' the rules to qualify anyone for "veteran" status. You can easily test for yourself what increases your User Rating and what does not. Just observe what happens when you respond to a discussion and when you comment in a discussion. You will find, I think, that it increases for the first response OR the first comment that you make in any single discussion but not for subsequent ones. In other words, you may earn up to two 'User Reputation' points in your own discussions (by commenting on responses) and one in any other discussion.
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• United States
18 Nov 11
Owl - Unless I am reading this wrong, which is entirely possible, I think that you actually have it backwards. Your user rating will increase by one in a discussion that you start when that discussion receives either two responses or one response and one comment within that response box. That is the most that your user rating will increase for a discussion that you start no matter how many times you comment in that discussion. In a discussion started by another user, your user rating will increase by one for the first response you make on that discussion. It will also increase by one for the first comment you make in the response box of another person on that discussion, which means that your user rating can increase by a maximum of two through participating a discussion started by another member. What many people do not understand, although I know that you fully realize it, is that even though your user rating does not continue to increase by participating in these discussions your earnings will definitely continue to increase with ongoing participation.
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@megamatt (14292)
• United States
17 Nov 11
For me personally, a veteran user is someone who has posted here longer than me and/or has more posts than me. Of course by that criteria some people might consider me to be a veteran user. I've been here for almost two years after all so that's a long time compared to most who give up a couple of months. That's almost like an eternity. Of course, I wouldn't consider myself some fountain of wisdom. I know more than a few tricks of the trade but I doubt that I would be considered to be all that helpful. Still I do kind of find it amusing that someone waited two years to make their first post. It's almost like they woke up one morning and were like "hey, that website myLot that I signed up and never posted on, I think that I'm going to post on that one." Still they wouldn't be a veteran. Of course when you think about it, post counts can be deceiving in their own right as well. And people can just blend into the background for five years. But in general post counts and time spent could be good criteria.
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@inedible (768)
• Singapore
17 Nov 11
Clarification: The post itself is two years old, not just the user's account. The earliest responses to the topic are also two years old. I don't think anyone would remember the password to an account they haven't used in two years. :laugh: It's true that some people might lurk more than they post, which would let them be more familiar with the site than their post count might suggest. But I don't think anyone would lurk on myLot for years and only post once.
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• United States
18 Nov 11
That is an interesting question. I never really gave it much thought. I say "newer users" or "more experienced users", but I never really put a lot of thought into how I would categorize or quantify experience. I guess that to me it is how well the person seems to know, understand and navigate the site. A person could be here on and off for a couple of years and not have as much experience or knowledge as someone that has only been here for a month or two but has taken the time to familiarize himself or herself with the Guidelines, FAQs, and overall workings of the site.
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@Morleyhunt (21736)
• Canada
19 Dec 15
New users should be recently joined. Not by the number of posts.