Starting a discussion with a shorter post could help us earn more?

@Aja103654 (5658)
Philippines
February 11, 2012 9:26pm CST
I don't know, haha. In mylot there are times that we start a discussion which is really long. I've done this a few times but I find most of the people don't respond to them, I bet they are too lazy to read, hehe. I'm sure because I feel that way towards a long discussion as well. It becomes harder to read a discussion when the sentences and the paragraphs are not properly arranged, it almost like a game of word search. But for discussions that really interest me, I don't care how long they are. In terms of earning, I personally think that shorter and direct to the point posts are preferable because many respond to them. And we earn more by replying to the many responders. What do you think?
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• Calgary, Alberta
12 Feb 12
nah I prefer making long discussions, I dont need to attract 50 people. few people who are really interested in the topic can give me a more satisfying discussion., you wont earn from the number of responses you get. sometimes a discussion of your yours with only 1 discussion will make you more money than a discussion of yours with 100 responses. Just try to make friends with the right people.
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@Aja103654 (5658)
• Philippines
12 Feb 12
hehe, I'm aware of that. No one's saying that we should stop making long discussions and we need to get as many responses as we can. The number of responses is not important really. A few informative answers is good enough. My point is that both long and short discussions have their pros and cons, and they can serve different purposes that will benefit us.
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• Calgary, Alberta
12 Feb 12
a long discussion with 1 decent response and have a long chain (responding back to each other over again) makes more money than a 1 liner discussion. maybe I have been here for 3 years, so making money doesnt matter to anymore. I still manage to get responses with long discussions. its more of targeting a certain audience. short discussions though have more cons. You will attract the wrong type of people in your discussions.if you actually manage to build a good reputation here. you will still get good responses even if they were long. also 1 liner discussions always get reported.
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@Aja103654 (5658)
• Philippines
12 Feb 12
Yes, thank you for this information, captal! Those are the kind of discussion I like, where the responders I replied to would reply back to me. I do that too. Haha, some of my discussion are only for a certain audience. I don't really expect many to find it and respond to it. I think I have the discovered the secret that will help me stay in mylot for a long time.
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• India
12 Feb 12
I Prefer that fully agree with you. More letters can't make more earnings here. The matter we discuss and the Quality will decide the Money here. Also more Words it's quit annoying for all to Read. Busy world we have not enough time to read so directly showing our matter is Good and Earn more responders fast!
@Aja103654 (5658)
• Philippines
12 Feb 12
Yes. I have noticed that some mylotters post the same topic but with a different title. I wonder why?? Well, we can make a post longer by posting something about our personal experiences. Doing this is fun to do, it's a way to express. Hmm, though sometimes these personal discussions are better kept to ourselves. Maybe mylot should provide a journal option that no one else can read except yourself? or maybe make it only available to friends? pretty much like how facebook works anyway...
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• India
12 Feb 12
I think our discussion main goal is achieved now very soon. Just in 30 min it's reach more then 8 responders the matter is clear and Informative structure that will discover more members to respond and fun.
@Aja103654 (5658)
• Philippines
12 Feb 12
yeah, i have this bad habit of starting discussions and replying to them the next day. I just realized that there is a better system. And that would be to immediately reply to those who responded to our discussions. Like we are doing currently. I'm thankful to people who have responded to this discussion.
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@Hatley (164670)
• Garden Grove, California
12 Feb 12
Aja I think people should not be so lazy as there are a lot of really good discussions here that are more than foue short sentences. this generation is u sed to short texts but mylot'want qu quality and wants the discussions to be descriptive and mnake sense. I have seen some so short I do not know what they are even trying to say. there is a limit to how concise and I think each person with his or her topic has different needs,. some discussions cannotg be put into a brief memo as it is a discussion after all. I think this is and should be left u p to the poster as I h ave found some really interesting discussions that are not short.
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@Aja103654 (5658)
• Philippines
12 Feb 12
hehe, sorry but yeah, I can't deny that I'm being lazy most of the time. Sometimes, I do respond to long discussions. just as long as I can relate to it, understand it and whenever I think that my response would be significant. There are two types of short discussions that I have seen here on mylot. The short, direct to the point ones with reasonable information and the ones which are in only a few sentences that you can tell the mylotter who started it is doing it for the sake of increasing his or her number of post(this is the bad one) Discussions, whether short or long, can be interesting and uninteresting. It would be entirely up to the one who started it that would make it worth contemplating about and worth responding to.
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@mensab (4208)
• Philippines
12 Feb 12
i am not sure if there is a difference in the length of the discussion for us to be able to earn more. but you are right that most people tend to respond to discussions that are brief and concise. long discussions take so much time to read and understand. people here want to respond to as many discussions as possible to maximize their earning potential.
@Aja103654 (5658)
• Philippines
12 Feb 12
Starting discussion with a short but informative enough post is good, i think. Nowadays, i just don't care about my number of post. Looking for interesting discussions and responding to them is good enough for me. Also, when I need answers, mylot is a good place to get more input! I noticed that my earnings are higher when I post these kind of discussion. But I'm not doing it just to earn, it's fun too.
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@sjvg1976 (18379)
• Delhi, India
12 Feb 12
Hello Aja103654, Partly you are right as people do have a habit not to read the longer posts sometimes i too don't read the longer posts and skip them. But if the discussion is interesting one then i don't leave it without responding it does not matter how much long it is.
@Aja103654 (5658)
• Philippines
12 Feb 12
I've skipped many discussions because of their length. I avoid responding to them because I might not be able to give the answer they need and instead post something completely unrelated to the topic. This happens often when I am on mylot near bedtime hours. Too frustrated to try reading and understanding long posts.
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@Mashnn (4503)
12 Feb 12
That is true. I find myself interested in reading shorter discussions which are direct to the point. I do write some of those long discussions especially if the topic discussed is of interest.
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@Aja103654 (5658)
• Philippines
12 Feb 12
same here. I intentionally write long discussions just for the purpose of expressing the thoughts in my head. I find this a therapeutic way to relieve myself of this thoughts. They are, i think, good enough to share to people who are willing to read my post at least.
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@Mashnn (4503)
12 Feb 12
If you have something interesting and long to share, then it is ok to write about it. Some discussion are not boring even if they are long.
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@Aja103654 (5658)
• Philippines
13 Feb 12
True!
@secretbear (19466)
• Philippines
12 Feb 12
Hi Aja! For me, the length of posts matter at times. It's just like you said, people tend to back away from reading long posts. It's just hard to read long paragraphs. But sometimes, if I really like the topic, I would endure the long reading and small letters. Titles also matter because if the title catches my attention, no matter how long the discussion is, I will read it and make my post. I don't think the length of posts is the issue. I think it's the sense of the discussion. Those discussions with sense that get a lot of LONG responses will earn more than those discussions without sense that get SHORT responses. It's not the number of posts we make but the it's the quality of posts that matters.
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@Aja103654 (5658)
• Philippines
13 Feb 12
hi, secretbear! You have a point. It's the sense and the worth of the discussion that will really matter. But still, people would rather read shorter discussions because they are concerned about how much time they need to spend in each discussion. Mylot members, some of them, have this mentality that the more you post the more you earn or the more fun you will have.
@secretbear (19466)
• Philippines
13 Feb 12
Well, they should know that they do not earn much, in fact, they earn almost nothing by posting short discussions or responses.
@ravisivan (14055)
• India
12 Feb 12
yes. I read short discussions. I enjoy posting my responses in such discussions that are interesting. Lengthy discussions --I read if the topic is interesting. Whenever I start a discussion I do it with the hope that at least forty people will post their response. But I get in single digit responses only.
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@Aja103654 (5658)
• Philippines
13 Feb 12
I don't think the number of responses matter, what's important is the quality of the responses you get.
• United States
12 Feb 12
I think you have a valid point here. I know when the post is long and not spaced out i will be hitting the back button. I will not read it or even try to. I find it hurts me because I can only read out of one eye..
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@Aja103654 (5658)
• Philippines
12 Feb 12
well, if the discussion is worth reading, it won't matter how long it is.
• Philippines
12 Feb 12
well maybe. but agree that we keep short but detailed discussions.but not that short ok. i feel the same way about discussions that are too long.sometimes i forgot what to say during the time im writing my comment that i need to read it again.
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@Aja103654 (5658)
• Philippines
12 Feb 12
haha, that's the thing about long discussions. We find it hard to remember what response is good for it.
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@owlwings (39101)
• Cambridge, England
14 Feb 12
It is somewhat misleading to say that a 'shorter post can help us earn more'. I think that I understand what you mean, however. A good discussion topic should always encourage (indeed, demand) good quality, descriptive responses, therefore it has to be sufficiently descriptive itself. That doesn't mean that it must be long-winded. There are some topics, it is true, where people are telling a complicated story or quoting a long news item (which we are supposed to link to, not quote in full, anyway). Even I (with good reading skills and English as my first language) sometimes give up and go away! Generally, between two and five (shortish) paragraphs - no more - should be quite enough to introduce a topic. There can really be no rule but if you think about a topic as: 1) INTRODUCTION: Short description of what the discussion is to be about or what problem one has which needs solving. [One paragraph only of two or three sentences] 2) EXPLANATION: Detail necessary to understand the topic; background to the problem (answer the questions WHY? WHERE? HOW? WHEN? WHO? so that people know where you stand). [May be between one and three paragraphs ... or, exceptionally, more, depending on what information people may need] 3) CONCLUSION: Open the discussion by describing what to discuss, possibly asking suitable questions for people to answer, so long as they can't be easily answered in just a few words. [One paragraph, two or three sentences only. Understand that many people may only read the heading and the last paragraph properly or at all, so be brief and to the point] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "The more people that respond, the more chance we have to earn by replying to them" Yes, that is generally true, but I have seen quite a few discussions with only two or three responses where people have continued to comment back and forth (and so may have earned a great deal). That is what I would call a 'good discussion'. On the other hand, I have seen countless discussions with several pages of responses where the 'discussion owner' has commented on most of them but really hasn't had a great deal to say and (if is even more than just 'Thanks for responding') eventually ends up by repeating the same thing over and over in different words. The REAL answer is that people should think less about what they will earn and more about what they will say. It then becomes almost automatic - the more that you really have to say, the more that you will actually earn!
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@owlwings (39101)
• Cambridge, England
14 Feb 12
Haha! I have issued a challenge! A really long response (but not waffle, I hope). Did you take the time to read it all? Will you reply in like manner?
14 Feb 12
It is a fair point and with regards to the different types of discussions mentioned I haven't actually seen the back and forth ones a lot but I am still working my way around the site quite slowly. As for the responding to everyone and saying the same thing in different words, I've done that twice this morning more so out of courtesy than trying to fill up a discussion. One thing I guessed is that when I respond to a group of repsonses in my discussion that either everyone sees it or people only get the indication that I have responded if it is from their own personal respond link. So I go for the latter, plus it feels more personal that way.
@owlwings (39101)
• Cambridge, England
14 Feb 12
Saying much the same thing in different words is often necessary and, indeed, quite normal, especially when you have a lot of responses which are more or less saying the same thing, too, but its very good practice for when you are working out how best to say something, or need to write two articles on the same subject!
@taomoney (649)
• Hong Kong
12 Feb 12
Interesting findings! But will longer posts earn more than shorter one? Or more earning depends on how many reply?
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@mysdianait (64059)
• Italy
12 Feb 12
The only way to earn more when you start a discussion is by commenting on the responses. The people who post the responses will earn for them not the person who started the topic.
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@Aja103654 (5658)
• Philippines
13 Feb 12
@taomoney: just like mysdianait said, you have to post more. Attracting a good amount of responders will give you opportunity to post more in order to reply to them and that's where you get to earn. You won't gain any earnings from other people's post unless if they are your referrals.
@taomoney (649)
• Hong Kong
13 Feb 12
I see, thank you both of you:) Well, all my referral are inactive...even do not have one single post :( Will try to post more interesting topic :) Thanks for the information.
@carmelanirel (20979)
• United States
12 Feb 12
It isn't about hos long or short, but how interesting the topic is. I have discussions that are long, because the person needed to make a few points to avoid bad replies. I have also read short one, (not real short line one sentence, but ones that only have 3-4 sentences, enough to start a discussion) and had great discussions there too..
@Aja103654 (5658)
• Philippines
13 Feb 12
oh, I prefer those one paragraphed ones. Straight to the point and I can immediately respond to.
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• United States
13 Feb 12
Yeah, but the more you know, the better the discussion, don't you think? Depending on the topic of course..
@varier (5699)
• Indonesia
12 Feb 12
Yeah, it is better to keep it simple. If one sentence can explain well, why should we use two, or even 5 sentences? I found myself bored if someone make a discussion more complicated and not going to the point. But if every sentences have the punchline, then I don't mind to read the long post. Well, about the earning, even if the discussion is long, as long as the creator can make every word understandable, then I think he should be able to earn more as well.
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@sishy7 (27651)
• Australia
12 Feb 12
I thought there's a bug on my screen; I was trying to get rid of it before I realized it's your avatar. Yeah, I was told to keep my discussions simple before, so that I won't be wasting every one's valuable time. I keep that direct & honest suggestion in mind whenever I start a discussion since.
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@varier (5699)
• Indonesia
12 Feb 12
One does not simply kill my bug :p Yup, I guess it is better to keep our discussion neat and simple..
@mysdianait (64059)
• Italy
12 Feb 12
I like your logical thinking Why waste time with a long topic, which many might not read, when you can spend even more time commenting on the responses that a shorter topic might reap - brilliant!
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@Aja103654 (5658)
• Philippines
13 Feb 12
yes, it's a good strategy.
@yanzalong (10151)
• Indonesia
12 Feb 12
Is it true that the longer sentences we post, the better we earn? Their making longer discussion with 2 paragraphs or is probably because they think it will yield more earn.
@Aja103654 (5658)
• Philippines
13 Feb 12
For a longer post, it has to have good quality too. Not just some random stuff you want to add in just to make it long. You can try posting long posts and see for yourself. But don't get disappointed when you get less than you expected. Simply enjoy your time here. I do this usually when i have a lot on my mind, so i post long posts. i don't really care how much i earn as long as i'm able to share these thoughts.
@shibham (17025)
• India
12 Feb 12
Hi aja.... My first preference in case of responding goes to my friends and i try to read each and every post of my friends. Its not considerable whether the post is long or short, if i can relate myself then i respond to that topic. Again, after that my second preference is random choice and at that time i prefer short post coz i dont wish to spend more time reading long posts. Have a nice time.
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@Aja103654 (5658)
• Philippines
13 Feb 12
it all depends on our mood. If we are comfortable enough, we can read long posts.
@jagjit273 (1740)
• India
12 Feb 12
Short, precise and brief discussions are always very effective. More over in today's era people are very busy and they dont have time for reading long discussion untill and unless the topic is of there choice.
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@menajo (7)
12 Feb 12
As someone who has only just signed up, I have to say that I enjoy reading the longer posts, although it does depend on the time of day lol. It's gone 10pm here so I'm feeling a little tired and a little lazy. Maybe what I'll do is reply to the shorter posts in the evenings and the longer on in the morning when my brain is fresher. Could be a plan...
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@bjc66bjc (6745)
• United States
12 Feb 12
I am not sure shorter or longer but I do believe the more to the point the discussion is the better...It really annoys me when I actually have to read and re-read a post because of either the point is not clear or I just can not understand the post. I know we are not all professionals and certainly I am not but it would help if the point of the discussion was clearer.. Not all the time just some post.... I have read a post where the writer starts talking about a third party and then it sseemed as if they were the third party..just confusing....sorry...
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