As I watched he put a half cup of sugar in his millk?

@Hatley (127551)
Garden Grove, California
March 2, 2012 9:56pm CST
I have thought of this for several days and finally decided to make this discussion.I have been watching in amazement as one pf my table mates pours sugar into his glass of milk until the milk 'reaches the top of the glass. the sugar container was full when we sat down But after he put sugar in his glass of milk andcup of coffee it was nearly empty.as nearly as I can tell he poured a half cup of sugar in each cup and glass. I am wondering what the effects of that much sugar are on the man. He has COPD disease and is always very congested. I am no doctor but surely that much sugar three times a day every day of the week could not be that healthy;Your take fellow mylotters.I did not say a word as its not my business to, but I sure did wonder about it.I guess being a diabetic makes me keenly aware of other people's use or abuse of sugar. bu I am not the diet police so I keep my thoughts to myself. lol
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@RitterSport (2452)
• Germany
5 Mar 12
hi dear Hatley thats really much sugar he puts into his drinks. When I was not diabetic yet, sometimes I filled my mug with coffee first then very cautiously spooned one teaspoon of sugar in and then started drinking the coffee. It was bitter first and the more I had the sweeter it got. Then I scraped the remaining sugar out of the cup when it was empty and that was sort of dessert...... LOL I still do it with powdered sweetener. But not with every cup of coffee I drink.
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• Germany
19 Nov 12
hi dear Hatley as I am diabetic too I am careful as well most of the time...... splurged yesterday and today its back to better choices for sure.......
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@Hatley (127551)
• Garden Grove, California
20 Nov 12
hi rittersport I had one diabetes educato r,n,. that told u s if we are good 90 per cent of the time we can splurge occasionally. I have d one that too and then get back to better choices next day. rioght now I am taking metformin and Januvia and glyburide so anm in great control as I jus by pass the foods I know shoot my;sugar up.
• Germany
20 Nov 12
hi dear Hatley, I will also start using metformin once my old meds are used up, that will be in about a month from now. Looking forward to it as I think that other stuff doesnt really work well any more.
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@jaiho2009 (36773)
• Philippines
3 Mar 12
dear Hatley, Maybe his taste buds become bad , that he cannot taste sweet with little sugar? (oh no) That is not good for our health (too much sugar) I don't use sugar with my coffee and I am a certified coffee addict (can drink up to 10 cups of coffee a day) Take care of your health ma'am and wish you the best of this weekend
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@Hatley (127551)
• Garden Grove, California
3 Mar 12
hi jaiho that well could be.myself I am taking really good care of myself so I keep my blood sugar in great control and it pays off as I feel fantastic. I am also a coffee addict. I drink at least six cups a day ;.I read a study where a large group of women who drank five cups or more of coffee were found to have 80 percent less chance of getting senile or alzenheimer as compared to the groupoof elderly women who drank at most one cup or lessof coffee'had a forty percent chance of becoming senile in later years so I drink my coffee and thank god I am not senile. lol lol.
@tigeraunt (6331)
• Philippines
3 Mar 12
dear hatley, i am very forgetful nowadays. (not good especially when i am in the office). and i am not a fan of coffee. i guess what you said is very sensible. shall i start drinking now? hehehehe ann
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@Hatley (127551)
• Garden Grove, California
3 Mar 12
hi tigeraunt lol I think you should only d rink what you really like as life is too short not to enjoy what you eat and drink. Coffee is my choice but not everyone likes coffee. Hot tea is also good for one as its been shown to have anti oxidants that protect ones heart lol lol
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@carmelanirel (21113)
• United States
4 Mar 12
Yuck, even with my sweet tooth, that sounds really gross and too sweet.. But, it's his body, if he wants to consume that much sugar, I just hope he doesn't suffer too much if his body decides to fight back..
• United States
4 Mar 12
I hope that someone does intervened, I mean even with low blood sugar, eating that much is not good for anyone..My husband has low blood sugar and trust me, the last thing he needs is a lot of white sugar, the best sugar is the natural, like in fruit...
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• United States
18 Nov 12
Again I'm sorry. I wonder if they would reconsider if you ask them to let you know?
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@Hatley (127551)
• Garden Grove, California
20 Nov 12
hi carm I doubt it as I guess they do not want to upset p eople but sometimes like steve's roommate it cannot be hidden . oh well thiongs are all right so I am just going with the flow. lol
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@SinfulRose (3406)
• Davao, Philippines
3 Mar 12
Hello, Hatley! I think I can understand your concern about the guy...but there is nothing we can do about it if he, himself, wants to really drink half a cup of sugar in his milk. But I think it would be better to advice him off of it. It really isn't good if it's that much. Is the sugar he's using white sugar or brown sugar? I think the quality of such sugar can make a difference. If he's using brown sugar at least he's not killing his own life as much as he will if he uses white sugar in his drink. I still better check back into what I've researched before just to make sure...
@Hatley (127551)
• Garden Grove, California
3 Mar 12
Hi sinfulrose I haven; talked to him as it u psets him.SEe he cannot speak,he had a tracheotomy.We tried to welcome him when he first ' joined our table and he shook his head and pointed to his throat. Steve asked him is he could not talk, and the guy just nodded. I guess he has been doing this for a long time and is used to it.It is just plain old white sugare which is so bad for a person, no nutrition at all.I dont think brown sugar is muchbetter. he has COPD so am wondering how the sugar affects that.[[
• Davao, Philippines
4 Mar 12
Actually I am taking brown sugar and according to many researches that I've encountered, brown sugar are much better than white sugar. However there is this sweetener, unfortunately I cannot remember the name anymore, that is WAY better than the two. It does not give you diabetes and is very healthy to the body. I just forgot the name. x
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• Davao, Philippines
18 Nov 12
I'm sorry to hear about the guy! And yes, the natural sweetener is indeed called Stevia. While there are many people who think that it's the sugar that can cause diabetes, it might be because of the fact that carbs, once broken down to basic unit, according to chemistry is just plain sugar. You can say carbohydrates is just a complex form of sugar and sugar once stored within the body for far too long becomes fat. Though it is known that oil causes fat, anything that is stored within the body becomes a fat--most of the times, an unhealthy far. The reason why people should move around or exercise is to prevent one's food from storing within the body to become an unhealthy fat.
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• India
4 Dec 12
Mom Half cup of sugar in each cup each glass!!! Oh my god, that too he has diabetic , guess he is not normal, i am diabetic too, normally i take tea/coffee/milk with 'sugar-free' pills; but i also like NOT ALWAYS adding one tea spoonful of sugar to a cup lol Thanks for sharing
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@sweety_81 (2130)
• India
21 Dec 12
Restraint in such situations is difficult at times, but it is also something which we need a lot at times.
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• India
21 Dec 12
Thanks for sharing. Regards
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@Hatley (127551)
• Garden Grove, California
28 Dec 12
hi professor and sweety I have learned o ver the years that diabetes rquires me to perform a balancing act not too low blood sugar but not too high either or too low. As long as I can keep my self from eating too many carbs I can maintain a good bood sugar balance.
@JenInTN (27570)
• United States
4 Mar 12
Wow..that is alot of sugar. I couldn't imagine having that much at once! I bet it was like a thick syrup after he got it all mixed. I agree it can't be good for him.
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@loonys (418)
4 Mar 12
He likes free sugar.
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@Hatley (127551)
• Garden Grove, California
4 Mar 12
hi jen and loonys cou ld be he does only reallyits not free. they get almost one thousand dollars from us monthely most of it from our social security and ssi checks. but its not free. He acts like he has been doing this for years.I do not ask him as he cannot talk he made that clear when he first joined our table. He is mute plus he has a tracheotomy too so I hesitate to bug him about his sugar use. the caregivers do notice a lot and probably his doctor and the medic care coordinator know too so I just keep myself out of it. but it sure makes me wonder why he does it. could be he has low blood sugar but I dont think a doctor would prescribe sugar for that. I had it first before i became diabetic and you just had to be sure to not let it get too low and eat before you got shaky.
• China
3 Mar 12
Why does the man eat so much sugar? Grant that the sugar is free,he ought to take his health into account.Scientific research has proved that your worries about his health isn't uncalled-for.The high blood sugar may have an effect on the prognosis of COPD.
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@Hatley (127551)
• Garden Grove, California
3 Mar 12
hi Chang That is what i was thinking that all that sugar mayt be making his C OPD even worse.A lso he smokes.We cannot talk to him as he is mute, and has a tracheotomy too. I have no idea why he uses so much sugar and in milk? my g MIlk has sugar in it already;. I guess I really notice so much as I am a diabetic and that much sugar would send me into a coma.So Sll I can do is just woder I guess..
• China
4 Mar 12
Poor man,he has suffered from so many diseases.Maybe he leaves them alone and do what he likes.In addition,they say that sugar can be added to milk.
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@ajk111 (2527)
3 Mar 12
i would suggest his teeth will fall out but i am guessing they already have. this is pretty gross and i suspect they could eat anything and all they would taste is sugar. i hope his digestive system is strong enough to remove the sugar or it may ferment and turn they're stomach into a huge vat of 70% proof gastric liquer! His wind would get you drunk!
@Hatley (127551)
• Garden Grove, California
3 Mar 12
hi ajk the poor man has COPD plus he cannot talk, and has a tracheotomy too. I thus hesitate to say anything,. He may have low blood sugar which might explain the use of all that sugar. He does not always eat all his food. He acts depressed too.I just cannot imagine a persons system handling all that sugar.I have a hunch the sugar is not helping his COPD at all. But I must leave it alone. As a diabetic I am alert to 'people using way too much sugar.
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@ajk111 (2527)
3 Mar 12
oh my1 now i feel bad about my flippent reply. i hope he is okay.
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@GardenGerty (77754)
• Marion, Kansas
4 Mar 12
Eating too much sugar can cause depression, but it is hard to convince people of that. He may be self medicating, as you say, to compensate for low blood sugar. Of course we know that low blood sugar is actually a precursor to diabetes. Often when people are in long term care centers they feel the only pleasure they have left is what they eat. It is so good to read your report that you are monitoring and controlling your blood sugar and it is making you feel much better. You cannot convince someone else, but you definitely can be an awesome example. Keep it up.
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@marguicha (53597)
• Chile
4 Mar 12
I would find that grosse, but if he wants to kill himself, I don´t think there´s much you can do, friend. I confess that since I don´t use any sugar in my coffe or tea, I look away when people put over 2 teaspoons in their cups.
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@Hatley (127551)
• Garden Grove, California
4 Mar 12
hi marguicha how are you doing yes really since he is both mute and has a tracheotomy I feel I would just be picking on him and thats'not fair.the caregivers do pay attention to a lot of stuff we do so Christine the health person probably knows about it. He has copd too so he is really ill. it feels gross to me toos as that much sugar would kill me , a diabetic. so it keeps me on my toes not to eat things I should not and I have tol leave a lot on my plate. but I am keeping my blood sugar where it belongs so that is good. maybe he helps me ol stay more honest. I quit watching him as it turns my stomach.
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@marguicha (53597)
• Chile
7 Mar 12
Sometimes you wish some of the people around you would eat their meals at another table. It´s probably unjust, but I don´t much like to eat when someone else near me has bad table manners. That is more than bad table manners though.
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@Hatley (127551)
• Garden Grove, California
18 Mar 12
you know I am really embarrassed when I feel like this but when he wheexe and bringsup cupfuls of crap from his trach tube, I get nauseated and have to look away. I know he cannot help it but its really gross. I wish he would do this outside before a meal instead of at the table.For one thing he is smoking thats crazy worst thing he could do to himself.
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@babystar1 (4236)
• United States
3 Mar 12
I also no someone that is a diabetic and uses a lot of sugar in his coffee too. I dont understand how they can put so much sugar in there coffee. I drink coffee every day 3 times a day and i just put in coffee creamer. its a wonder this man dont get sick since he is a diabetic
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@Hatley (127551)
• Garden Grove, California
3 Mar 12
hi babystar no heis not a diabetic but I am . He has lung disease very bad COPD and has a tracheotomy too.He nodded when we asked him if he could not speak. He just points to the drinks he wants from the beverage cart.I hesitate to scold him for using all that sugar. I think if I am aware of it the care givers have also told the health care coordinator.She does not like us to come to her and tell her about health issues we have seen in fellow residents.I was worried about my roommate with Alzheimer as she was just plain forgetting things that a day before she knew. /Christine told me to take care of my self and not worry about Kathy. So I just do not bother with things I have seen with other residents. let her take any flack if she does not see whats going on and residents families are upset about it.
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@babystar1 (4236)
• United States
3 Mar 12
some people just dont care.
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@Hatley (127551)
• Garden Grove, California
4 Mar 12
yes babysar it made me wonder really. I mean I am her roommate and sure I do care about her so now I just ignore Christine and do waht I think is best for my roomie.
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@almond24 (1252)
• Hungary
3 Mar 12
Sounds like he is either trying to make himself more sick, maybe he has other underlying health conditions or nutrition deficiencies. This amount of sugar is not only unhealthy but can be dangerous. It's his problem, but I understand that you worry about him.
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@Hatley (127551)
• Garden Grove, California
3 Mar 12
hi almond yes I worry but cannot do anything else.He is mute for some reason and also had a traecteotmy and COPD so he has a lot of health problems already. I am wondering if he could have low blood sugar and that is how he is handling it.I know if I as a diabetic ate that much sugar I would be in a diabetic coma. So it does make me take better care of myself than ever lol.
@almond24 (1252)
• Hungary
4 Mar 12
Hi Hatley, yes, it's possible that he has low blood sugar, that's why he takes this horrible amount... our body does weird things sometimes to stay in balance. You do it very well that you take care of yourself.
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@lumenmom (1997)
• United States
3 Mar 12
All I can say is that seems to be an awful lot of sugar, then when I think of some of the things I eat throughout an entire day, I probably consume just as much if not more through other foods and sugary drinks. Apparently he likes it this way and it may not affect him adversely, especially if he is taking in protein at the same time.
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@Hatley (127551)
• Garden Grove, California
3 Mar 12
hi lumenmom yes it does but to all extents he seems fine so I s uppose he has done this for years. Too He may be suffering'from low blood sugar onto of his COPD in his lungs.He cannot speak for some reason so we really cannot ask him questions. It does serv e one good purpose it reminds me to keep being careful of what I eat as a diabetic. They do not serve daiabetic meals so we must jus cut out what we have to from the regular diet here. I am doing good according to my blood sugars and thats what counts.
@lumenmom (1997)
• United States
3 Mar 12
I thought about your post today as I watched my dad pumping Coffeenmate into his coffee this morning. My brother just bought him the large pump bottle that is very thick and I think one pump is a serving which is what I use and it is enough. I literally watched him pump about 6 or 7 pumps into the coffee and then add sugar and I thought I would throw up. I don't know how he actually drank it. And I thought I was past being judgemental....lol. He is also diabetic and with kidney problems and he's suppose to be losing weight so he can get a transplant. I guess it is a good idea to keep a tight control on the sugar because in the long run it does cause serious problems.
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• Canada
3 Mar 12
Have you mentioned this to the staff, and to the health professionals, there? That can't possibly be good for his health. If he's not diabetic already, it's just a matter of time. Not only is that much sugar not good for him, but his habit will be costly to the place where you live. Not THAT costly, but still it'll cost more than it should.
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@Hatley (127551)
• Garden Grove, California
3 Mar 12
hi d anish conadian I sort of heistate as he seems to have so much already wrong with him.I would not think it could be good for him either. But we have no real registered nurse here only 'a what is called health care coordinator. she is a lay person. And she d oes not take kindly to remakrs about health concerns on other residents. but he has a visiting nurse I could talk to. thats an idea.
@ajithlal (14566)
• India
5 May 12
I think most probably he must not take so much sugar and he must be checked for having diabetes and also to check if he is having something wrong with him.
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@coffeeshot (3787)
• Australia
17 Mar 12
I think that a can of Coke has seventeen spoons of sugar in it. I imagine half a cup of sugar would be roughly the same amount so he's not doing much worse than people who have one or two cans of Coke per day. However, it is still waaayy too much sugar and this will surely mean diabetes in the not too distant future. Also just out of curiosity, what are his teeth like? One would think that by consuming that amount of sugar his teeth wouldn't be in the best condition.
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@ajithlal (14566)
• India
18 Mar 12
The can of coke and cola contains that amount of sugar. I think that is probably very high for anyone to take it. I heard that regular consuming soft drinks might increase the risk of having diabetes.
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@ptrikha_2 (2871)
• India
21 Nov 12
I would say that excess of everything, be it salt, sugar, chips, or even good things like fruits, vegetables is bad. Even if we drink milk in excess, we could have stomach aches, or acidity etc. So, have everything within limits, and we shall be healthy.
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@MsTickle (24716)
• Australia
15 Mar 12
Dear Hatley...you do give me a laugh. How is making a discussion about this poor fellow keeping your thoughts to yourself???
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@dorannmwin (36609)
• United States
8 Mar 12
I guess that everyone has their own way that they like to drink things and for some people it is that they like to have just a little bit of coffee or milk with their sugar and for others it is that they like very little or now sugar with their drinks. For me, I do put a pretty good amount of sugar in my coffee, but I've never thought about putting sugar in my milk, I will drink my milk plain or with just a little bit of chocolate syrup in it.
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• United States
7 Mar 12
Hi Aunt Hatley, OMG!!!! I can’t imagine having that much sugar. It’s a wonder the people in the dining room or kitchen who supply the condiments don’t say something to this guy. How much money is wasted on sugar each and every day.. 365 days 3 times a day? He has got to consume a pound of sugar between his glasses and cups each day. He should way over 300 pounds by the end of a year unless he can handle all of those calories. I wonder if they charge him for all that sugar that he consumes!? I don’t know all the effects of TOO MUCH sugar on the body. I do know that the body uses glucose to feed the mitochondria in the cells and in the brain cells. The mitochondria are the little energy furnaces in our cells that gives us energy to move around and think. Glucose makes our memory better… but what about sugar overload? From what I have learned in nursing school is that what isn’t immediately used is stored in the liver as glycogen and on the body as body fat. That’s all I know. I have no idea about what eating that kind of sugar does to a person… except make them fat.
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@eshaan (6193)
• India
4 Mar 12
hi hatley...!!! and i fully agree that these people should think before they put that spoon of sugar in tea, coffee milk or whatever...why are they so eager to face their end i too winder like you! ...is eating that too specially those things which are harmful so necessary or are they so much addicted that they won't go a single day without it..
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@Hatley (127551)
• Garden Grove, California
18 Mar 12
hi eshaan glad to see you here the poor man uses w ay too much sugar and it cannot be good for COPD. He is always very congested and wheexed a lot and coughs a lot too;.
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@blue65packer (11836)
• United States
4 Mar 12
I have seen people put tons of suger in their coffee. Never in their milk! Why would a person want to put suger in your milk anyway? That sounds disgusting! I myself like coffee drinks but not regular coffee. Just thinking about the suger in the milk is making what to barf! Ewww! your table mate is weird!
@Hatley (127551)
• Garden Grove, California
4 Mar 12
hi blue65packer I am puzzled at that one, sugar in milk,looks gross and disgusting to me. I cannot bother him a bout itr as he is both mute and has a tracheotomy too. He suffers from severe COPD so I would not think sugar would be too good for him.I think he is weird'too. Even if he has low blood sugar using that much pure white sugar is not the answer.
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