Food shortage

@celticeagle (118210)
Boise, Idaho
November 11, 2012 2:46pm CST
I live in a 3 bedroom apartment. I am on SSD and live in Section 8 housing with my daughter and her ten year old son. I can barely buy enough food for the three of us to live on for a month. If there was a gas shortage or some emergency happened in my area where chaos broke out and everyone rushed to the stores to stock up on food I would be out of luck. I have very little space to stock up on food for a long period. What would we do in the case of an emergency where there was no more food to be had at the grocery store and I had next to nothing stored at home? Have you thought about this? What would you do?
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@Anne18 (11036)
12 Nov 12
I have limited storage as well. I suppose i'm lucky in that I don't eat too much, but it would be a very scary thought. We would have to eat as little as possible to make the food last as long as possible. Hopefully there would be some nice people to help us out
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@celticeagle (118210)
• Boise, Idaho
13 Nov 12
That is a very positive and fine way of looking at this situation. Thank you for your input.
@Anne18 (11036)
13 Nov 12
I'm sure people in your block would help you out as well
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• United States
12 Nov 12
If a disaster struck, you and your neighbors wouldn't come together to help each other out? I have lived in such areas. I'm glad to now be in the area where I'm at. My neighbors and I would help each other out if some sort of disaster befell this area. Plus, there is our religious community, which is filled with people who help each other out. Community is important. If we don't work together, we shall fail separately.
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@celticeagle (118210)
• Boise, Idaho
12 Nov 12
We live in a situation now that most of our neighbors are foreign. I know the people on one side of us and that is about it. Community is important and I live in a wonderful one but when something like this happens it all change quickly. Read the other responses to see what I mean. Solar flairs and all the above.
• United States
12 Nov 12
I don't really understand what difference it makes what sort of issue arises, nor do I know what difference it makes where one's neighbors are from. If something were to happen here, I know that my communities (both the geographic and the local religious) would come together to meet the needs of the community. My boyfriend and I are fortunate to be both part of a strong religious community that takes care of its members in times of crisis and part of a strong neighborhood in a town where people would come together. I don't believe in the whole of the human race, but I do have faith in those in my immediate surroundings when it comes to this stuff. That is why I chose to move to this place.
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@celticeagle (118210)
• Boise, Idaho
12 Nov 12
That must be very satisfying for you.
@writersedge (22579)
• United States
11 Nov 12
We always have extra food. There is always an emergency every year up here. Sub-zero weather every year is the usual emergency. Power outages once a year. Hopefully they're not both at the same time. So we always have extra food. My husband has a good job and that's why. He lived in the mountains where roads were often closed due to bad weather and sub-zero so bad that no cars would start, minus 30 degrees with 20 mph winds making wind chill minus 50 or more. So we have cans of stew, soup, veggies, meat ahead. People who have very little money where we live buy seeds and grow food on window sills. Out dollar store often had 10 packages of seeds for a dollar or 8 for a dollar or 6 for a dollar, whatever, in the spring. Radishes, lettuce, green onions or little scallions grow very well in the spring and fall on a windowsill. If the apartment is heated well enough, many veggies can be grown in pots. If it's not heated very well or the windows let in lots of cold air, then only winter garlic and winter onions will work. If you can put a table next to window, you can grow things in bigger pots. Like soy beans, green beans, yellow beans, etc. You need a huge pot and tons of room for potatoes, broccoli, etc. Some people will go to food shelves at the end of the month and they get that food to eat, but buy some rice and beans for an emergency. We have lots of buy two for the price of one this time of year (sometimes they mark everything up and that's not true, you have to be careful). They use one and put the other away for an emergency. So what would I do, just go down cellar and get our extra stew, soup, and canned meat. If we had electricity, use our extra rice and beans. Where we live, every year, there is a time when people run the risk of not having food, so we stock up. We use coupons on double coupon days to try to cut the price of food. We let our situation be known to relatives with more (someone like us) who give food for the holidays like a food basket. My brother was in trouble one year and we had him go pick out food from the basement. Another time he couldn't come so we just grabbed some food and brought it to him. Other times, relatives have given money cards for groceries like a Price Chopper gift card for $25 or a gift certificate at a local store. We had the ice storm here and we couldn't get out where I lived for two weeks. They tell you to have a three day food supply, that's in case it takes FEMA 3 days to get to you. But I can tell you from experience, two weeks was average during that ice storm, there were people with only a few days and others 3 and 4 weeks. I hope something I wrote helps you. If you have room under a couch, under a bed, etc. Look at the food coupon people, they use food as a room divider and put it behind doors or anywhere. A tote bag flung in the corner of a closet. I always hope that no one goes hungry during an emergency. During the ice storm, people on snowmobiles took orders and bought people food. People gave them extra $ for gas and oil. I was asked, but I was fine. I had a cupboard full of food. Heat was what I needed. Eventually, I did get a generator so I'd have heat.
@celticeagle (118210)
• Boise, Idaho
12 Nov 12
That is great that people are aware and proactive and all seem to work together. Speaking of seeds I think I am going to save some seed pachets in those thick freezer bags. I could soak the seeds for 24 hours and eat them if we needed to. Wouldn't take much space to store and would be very nutritious. I have no families except for my daughter and her two kids so I have no help in that regard. My BFF lives in Oklahoma.
@writersedge (22579)
• United States
14 Nov 12
Seeds are usually dry and they usually last a year or more. Some of the dried seeds in the Egyptian tumbs have been planted and some sprouted. Why do you want to freeze them? Periennials can take freezing if they're from a cold area like mine, but annuals can't. Frozen stuff is usually only good for 3 to 4 months in a freezer if they don't get freezer burned. Will you please research this more or the stuff you freeze might be no good when you do need it?
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@celticeagle (118210)
• Boise, Idaho
14 Nov 12
I didn't mean to freeze them. I met to use freezer bags, the nice thick ones so the air would be less apt to dry them out and they might stay usable longer. I would have no reason to freeze them because if there was an emergency and the refrigerator no longer worked the seeds would be ruined anyway.
@SomeCowgirl (32270)
• United States
11 Nov 12
I've not thought of it but I suppose I'd first go to a food bank, or if nothing else try to share whatever food I could with friends and neighbors. Whomever was still around and not seeking another shelter, I'd try to make up meals with their help. I'd include family from other parts of the area as well or maybe just them? I suppose we don't really think of what we'd do, assuming we'd have enough to get by. We don't have any food saved up for if we can't get out etc, and that is one thing we need to work on here. I fear this winter will be harsher then normal and we won't be able to get out as much. Though I work for a grocery store, I fear that I may not be able to get to work all the time and end up losing my job.. That's going off subject though.
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@celticeagle (118210)
• Boise, Idaho
12 Nov 12
We frequent the food banks now. Alot of their items are out dated so it wouldn't be good to save for the future incase of an emergency. I think this Winter will be harsher than normal too. I used to worry about the same thing when I worked. If my car broke down I have no family and the few friends at work I wouldn't want to ask. I hate Winter so badly anyway.
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@SomeCowgirl (32270)
• United States
12 Nov 12
The food bank / pantry would be one of the last resorts for me as well because honestly outdated food, I just wouldn't want to eat it unless I had to. There are a few places within walking distance, that is if they were even open... and in the middle of winter it'd be a very long, very cold walk comparably.
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@celticeagle (118210)
• Boise, Idaho
12 Nov 12
I feel the same way about food banks. In the case of a long standing emergency I think we wll have to take some cold walks and worse if we aren't prepared.
@ANTIQUELADY (36489)
• United States
11 Nov 12
I hope u never have to go through something like thaty. I stay pretty well stocked up on things. I put alot of veggies, fruit etc. in the freezer this summer so i could eat awhile on that if i had to.It is a hard job for me to go to the grocery & get things in the house so i usually buy quite abit so i don't have to go as often as some folks do.
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@celticeagle (118210)
• Boise, Idaho
12 Nov 12
If I lived alone it would be easier. My grandson eats like a horse. And a big horse at that. I wish we could can or freeze but we can't plant here. I guess we could buy at the fruit stand and freeze it but we are too busy eating it. lol
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@ANTIQUELADY (36489)
• United States
12 Nov 12
gROWING BOYS ARE HARD TO FILL UP, I RAISED 2, LOL. i HAD TO BUY ALOT I PUT UP BUT HAD QUITE ABIT GIVEN TO ME TO BY FRIENDS WHICH IS REALLY NICE. U are right there's a big difference in feeding one instead of 3 but i do cook for my kids quite abit. Hope u are having a good day.
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@celticeagle (118210)
• Boise, Idaho
13 Nov 12
Am having a good day, thank you. I hope the same for you. With the holidays coming up and the weeks off from school it is going to be fun to feed him.
@mikyung (2234)
• Philippines
12 Nov 12
Wow, what a tough situation you are into. I hope you can manage to have even just enough food. I thinking if you can borrow from your neighbors for some that you can replace for those stuff eventually. You may also contact some of your nearby relatives, if you have any, and ask for their help. I can really feel where youre coming from. I hope everyting will turn out fine there, I pray. Thanks
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@celticeagle (118210)
• Boise, Idaho
13 Nov 12
We used to have close association with our neighbors and we did help eachothers out but now they are mostly foreigners and nice enough but not real friendly or interested. Mostly what I am talking about is if there is an emergency.
@wolfie34 (26793)
• United Kingdom
12 Nov 12
Do you know what I find most sad, is that forty or fifty years ago neighbours and friends would have all helped each other, to ensure that no one went without and everyone had food in their bellies, people were kinder, more sympathetic and more helpful back then, it was mostly during the war, that people pulled together and differences forgotten. Nowadays people don't care, and we have become a self-centred nation. If you were down on your luck you wouldn't expect help from anyone and you would be left to your own devices.
@celticeagle (118210)
• Boise, Idaho
13 Nov 12
Yes, back when I was young and living with my grandparents the neighbors were all friendly and like extended families. I think it had to do with the depression. People sure don't care now days and it is very sad.
@cher913 (25891)
• Canada
12 Nov 12
we don't always have a lot of extra money for food but we do have enough to last for a few days as well as bottled water. we live in a condo so we have the room, but just not always the money to buy much extra food in case of emergencies.
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@celticeagle (118210)
• Boise, Idaho
13 Nov 12
I can relate to your situation. I hope you will think about doing some stocking up when things are on sale or made available to you.
@mzz663 (2775)
• United States
12 Nov 12
Situations like this are sometimes hard to overcome. Have you checked with local churches and outreach programs where you could get meals and food? I tend to stock up a lot on canned foods, even if it is something like spam. It's small and lasts for a long time. I keep frozen vegetables in the freezer. Is there a friend or two that might have you over for dinner one or two nights a week if you were able to help with the cooking or cleaning up? I hope things only get better for you!
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@celticeagle (118210)
• Boise, Idaho
13 Nov 12
Yes, we have a lot of churches and such that help with food baskets and meals. I am talking about a catastrophic situation where there was nothing like this left available. I think stocking up is very important.
@aabuda (1729)
• Philippines
12 Nov 12
You know what, that condition of yours comes the issues of having a job....yes, I have a job but I don't have savings which can purchase foods if ever a catastrophe happen...my only advantage is that I can owe money to someone or from the government which they would lend me because they can actually run after me because I have a job.
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@celticeagle (118210)
• Boise, Idaho
13 Nov 12
Sounds interesting.
@Mattxu (62)
• China
12 Nov 12
Wow, I should say you are a special woman whom I have seen. You are worrying about something which you never need to worry about. If there are some emergency happend in your area, you need to wait for the government's help. If hte government couldn't give any help to you, then you need to think about this. But there are only three women in your home, even if you have enough food for you, you will also be robbed by other people. So your annoyances are helpless. Anyway, having a nice day!
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@celticeagle (118210)
• Boise, Idaho
13 Nov 12
Well, like a good friend on here said It is better to be prepared for something that never happens than to not be and have it happen. It may take a long time for government to get to me if there is such an emergency that knocks out electricity and such. I do think it is better to be proactive.
@Sindelle (830)
• United States
12 Nov 12
I'm sorry to hear that times are so tough for you. I hear stories like that on this site all too often with the way the economy has been. If I was ever in that situation where all the food was gone I'd first go online and order food. Then I'd start looking for local programs to help the people in need. In the face of disaster they're many public operations to aid victims. Also where I live they have a local food bank. They give goods to hundreds of needy families. I'd look to see if your community has a program like this. Also are you eligible for food stamps or any other sort of government assistance. There is nothing worse then worrying about life necessities.
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@celticeagle (118210)
• Boise, Idaho
12 Nov 12
Food banks are great but what if these places have already been rushed and there is nothing available? If there is a major emergency situation like I am talking about there would be no internet access, no power, no trucks able to bring food to restock the stores, etc. I am talking about a solar flair or something serious that would knock out our electricity grids and the computers that run the newer cars. No transportation, no way of getting food. If we hadn't stock piled some we would be without food.
@cynthiann (18619)
• Jamaica
12 Nov 12
I am so sorry that life is so tough for you. It must be so difficult to manage. I am frugal but I always haver enough canned food and other stuff for at least a week in case we have a hurricane and lose electricity etc. I honestly think that you need some kind of help to supplement what you are receiving. Perhaps you could do more investigation to find out if you can get help from either gtovernment organizations or charity organizations? I do not know your system so I am not much help
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@celticeagle (118210)
• Boise, Idaho
12 Nov 12
It does get rather tough but what I was getting at is what do people do to prepare if they are short on funds? We should all store something just incase. Read the other responses for more info on the emergency I am talking about.
@GardenGerty (99159)
• United States
12 Nov 12
I have food stashed in lots of places in my house. I like sales when I can get them or I buy in bulk. In a disaster water would be where my shortfall would come.I have not planned well for that yet. I have food we can eat without heat, and we have a smoker and grill on our patio if we needed to cook. I think dried beans are good to have to stretch the budget as they take little room to store them. there are racks you can get that hang over a door that you can keep quite a lot of canned food and dried goods on. If you knew that you would have to stock up or do without, you would manage. You would store it in the clothes closets or where ever you had to.
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@celticeagle (118210)
• Boise, Idaho
12 Nov 12
That is great! I would like to get some water stored. Beans are great and I will probably save some of them. I also thought of seeds. I could save alot of seed patchets in those thick freezer bags. All you have to do is soak them for 24 hours and then I would have a very nutritious food to eat. That and canned food and such. I have a walk-in closet I am thinking of putting some big water jugs in there. You just never know.
@beenice2 (2274)
• Canada
12 Nov 12
I would be more on my knees to beg God to have mercy on my family and me, because He is the one that is our provider,I'm not kidding this is the only way to survive ask for God's help. I wish that every single one of those that lives in the city could have their own piece of dirt to make their own gardens. Wish you well.God Bless you.
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@celticeagle (118210)
• Boise, Idaho
12 Nov 12
I hope your faith is strong and that he does help you if something like this actually happens.
@blue65packer (11835)
• United States
11 Nov 12
I have never thought of it and really don't think anything would happen like you said. I do have a pantry in my apartment but I store other things in there. No food. I am not going to worry about it. I have to much stress as it is! With the holidays coming up,stress at work,my acid reflux is really bad lately and thinking if I stock on things for a disaster i will turn into a hoarder! Am so stressed out right now I am not a happy camper!
@celticeagle (118210)
• Boise, Idaho
12 Nov 12
I am glad you aren't worried about it and hopefully nothing will ever happen. I live with stress daily myself so I know what you mean. I also like to be proactive and wonder if it wouldn't be a good idea to have some food stores just incase. I have serious panic attacks and am on meds for it. No fun!
@yoyo1198 (3644)
• United States
11 Nov 12
I think it is recommended that everyone have at least a three days supply of nonperishables on hand in case of emergency. Surely you have room for that amount? It will take the three days for emergency services to be up and rolling for any given area....Salvation Army, Red Cross, power companies, etc.
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@celticeagle (118210)
• Boise, Idaho
12 Nov 12
We usually have afew things around and would be okay for afew days. But what if there is such a bad emergency situation that people rush the food pantries and grocery stores and there isn't much left? In the case of a solar flair the computers than run the trucks that transfer food to the stores could be effected. And if the big transformers are effected our power could out for a long time. I'm not just talking about a power outage but a major failure.
@bunnybon7 (36431)
• Holiday, Florida
11 Nov 12
thought of it many times and as you know from reading all my discussions, with 5 adults here living in the house, 3 of them my adult kids, we would likely be up the creek also before the others moved in we had a bit of a stock pile but now even if you try to stock pile veggies, if someone dont have money to go out and buy food they need they just open a can and heat it and eat it even ramien noodles get used up at times altho that likely what everyone would fall back on as i have lots of those stock piled at times for months.
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@celticeagle (118210)
• Boise, Idaho
12 Nov 12
I hear what youre saying. My grandson eats like a horse! There was this one lady on he Preppers show I was watching and her husband didn't like saving the food. Thought it was dumb and didn't believe there would ever be an emergency and need for it. So when he was gone she would stuff food under the mattress and inside hollow doors. Smart lady!
• United States
11 Nov 12
I am just like you except I have some stuff that would hold me over for a while in the cabinets, I gave away a lot of food in the last 4 months. I live near about 10 food pantie If I ever go low on food.
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@celticeagle (118210)
• Boise, Idaho
12 Nov 12
But what if there is an emergency and others clear out the food panties and grocery stores? If there is an solar flair that it knocked out our larger transformer we won't have any power for A LONG TIME. The larger transformers aren't easily to come by and it would take a while to get even get them much less replace them. And this would damage the computers and such in the big trucks that transfer food to the stores across the country. We would be out of luck. I think it would be smart to have some food and water stocked just incase. It may never happen but what if it did?
@mariaperalta (19096)
• Mexico
11 Nov 12
I hate to hear that. Hope things get better for you there. Have you ever thought about trying a food bank for help? I knew several people when I lived in vegas, and they would go once or twice per month for help with food. Good luck to you there.
@mydanods (6759)
• Nigeria
11 Nov 12
it's so unfortunate. why don't you look for help, for the sake of your children? i'd go that and put shame to the waste basket, or even pride. take care of the kids, and yourself. life is not fair, but it is the only one we have.