Rant Time

@celticeagle (159710)
Boise, Idaho
January 17, 2017 7:28pm CST
I haven't ranted on here for a long time. Things are much better than they used to be. But, there are still some times........ I am so sick of it. I am living here with my daughter because she asked me to help her raise her ODD son. She is on medication for bi-polar disorder and he is for ODD. (Oh, yes! I am too. For anxiety although they can't find one that helps my depression.) My daughter gives him his moring pills first thing in the morning which help him concentrate better and act appropriately. Then in the evening she gives him his evening pills which help him get to sleep at night and help his anger. He knows they are of first priority in his life. Or, he should. His outrageous behavior in the past really has taught us all that they shoud be. A few summers ago he beat his mom around her lower legs because she wouldn't do something he asked of her. He was charged and put on probation for a period of time. And, back in October of last year he pushed me and I dislocated my shoulder. He wasn't charged because I felt it was something anyone would have done. In other words, it wasn't done with mean intent. So, fast forward to today. He was doing something on his computer( we later found was erasing viruses from it which I feel was a bunch of hooey) and wouldn't come and take his evening pills when his mom asked him to. She got upset with him becasue it was getting late and he really needed to get them taken or he wouldn't get to sleep until late and another possibility of him not going to school again. So, I then I started telling him he needed to get this done. He doesn't like it when I come into the mix but that is what I am here for. To be the bad guy when his mom isn't able to be. I come from a generation when children did what adults told them to do. It didn't have to get to the point of orders or "ya just need to do this and get it done". I knew I should just do it. Josh isn't that way at all. He won't do what we ask him to do. We have to keep on him, beg him, and it gets to a bad mark. Why can't he just do it? But no, what he is doing is all important and he can't pause it or step away a moment. We waited afew minutes and then asked him again. "LEAVE ME ALONE!" Josh, you need to get these taken." "NO! I'm not going to now!" It's not like he isn't used to taking medication either. He has been on some since he was about five or six. He used to have really bad fits and through tantrums. Now, with the meds he is more under control. He is scary when he hasn't. It's just that simple. Sigh. Thanks for reading.
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@Happy2BeMe (99390)
• Canada
18 Jan 17
I hope he finally took them!
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@celticeagle (159710)
• Boise, Idaho
18 Jan 17
Yes, when he got good and ready. Needed to about 45 minutes earlier. They time to take affect. I'd like him to get to bed early enough so there is no problem with him getting to school tomorrow.
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@Happy2BeMe (99390)
• Canada
18 Jan 17
@celticeagle I am glad he took them.
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@NJChicaa (116206)
• United States
18 Jan 17
So did he ever take it?
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@celticeagle (159710)
• Boise, Idaho
18 Jan 17
Finally. After he got good and ready to.
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@NJChicaa (116206)
• United States
18 Jan 17
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• United States
18 Jan 17
You are a blessing to your grandson and his mother too. So often you hear of people not supporting their family members. You are the exception and deserve a big hug for your efforts.
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• United States
18 Jan 17
@celticeagle it takes a strong woman to do this. You are exceptional.
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@celticeagle (159710)
• Boise, Idaho
18 Jan 17
Thank you! I could never turn away from them. Professionals tell me I should move out and I tell them I would just worry because I know it wouldn't last long and Josh would be in foster care. I have been told by a social worker who used to come out that Cami can't do it without me. It is just hard at times.
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@celticeagle (159710)
• Boise, Idaho
19 Jan 17
@ElusiveButterfly .....Thank you for that. I am so happy I have this forum to rant in when I need to.
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@clrumfelt (5490)
• United States
18 Jan 17
Your daughter is lucky to have you there. Have you tried handing him his meds and standing over him until he swallows them? He most kids like to feel independent and that might inspire him to take care of it himself.
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@celticeagle (159710)
• Boise, Idaho
18 Jan 17
When he's downstairs but when he is in his room that's dififcult. He insists on locking the door and he ignores us when we call out to him. That's what happened this evening.
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@clrumfelt (5490)
• United States
19 Jan 17
@celticeagle I'd probably try to sneak a dose into his room ahead of time or something, but I hope he grows out of that stage soon and learns to do better.
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@celticeagle (159710)
• Boise, Idaho
19 Jan 17
@clrumfelt .....We don't like to leave 'doses' setting around. But, I think some days mom needs to start giving them earlier so if he has a tantrum there is still time to get the effect by a good bed time.
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• United States
18 Jan 17
I have great compassion and admiration for you Celt. It is a constant struggle you live. I wonder how you do it my friend, I know it is out of love, but really, you so deserve a break.
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@celticeagle (159710)
• Boise, Idaho
19 Jan 17
That's nice of you. Yes, it is a constant struggle but then I look at the possibilities if I wasn't here. I wish I could take a vacation. Would be so nice.
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@celticeagle (159710)
• Boise, Idaho
20 Jan 17
@TiarasOceanView .....I bet you would like one too. Where shall we go?
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• United States
20 Jan 17
@celticeagle I know what you mean...
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@DWDavis (25812)
• Pikeville, North Carolina
19 Jan 17
One has to wonder why so many more children seem to suffer from this sort of disorder these days. Are the disorders truly more prevalent? Is there something in the water or the food causing them? Someday the truth will come out and I think we'll all be astounded by the answer.
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@shaggin (71676)
• United States
18 Jan 17
That is really nice you are there to help your daughter out! I think I had ODD and ADHD when I was young. Probably had more wrong then that lol. My kids and I cooperate on things. Sometimes I calm them out to take their medicine and sometimes I take it to them.
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@celticeagle (159710)
• Boise, Idaho
19 Jan 17
It is so good when they cooperate and my grandson usually does. Not this particular day though.
@dragon54u (31636)
• United States
18 Jan 17
I'm sorry you all have to go through this. I have not heard of ODD and just read about it and it sounds scary to deal with. Sometimes we have to go the extra mile for our children even when they are adults. I'm glad you're able to be there for your daughter.
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@celticeagle (159710)
• Boise, Idaho
18 Jan 17
Oh, yeah. Plus there is a horrible anger thing that goes on. When we try to get him to do anything. Like normally you tell a kid he needs to do X and he does it. Not him! ODD is not fun to live around. He has gotten better though and I am very thankful. Instead of several times a week we only have this about 2-3 times a month
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@bunnybon7 (50973)
• Holiday, Florida
18 Jan 17
most kids are so out of control these days all the way up to their 40's or should i say back from ones born in the 1970's on. i and my oldest kids were raised the same as you but something went wrong it seems later. starting to wonder if its the enviroment or just coming end of time on earth.
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@celticeagle (159710)
• Boise, Idaho
19 Jan 17
There are a lot of reasons for this and we have to just be sure these kids have been taught the basics.
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• Preston, England
18 Jan 17
no easy or obvious answers here at all - i'm sure you are doing all you can in very trying circumstances
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@celticeagle (159710)
• Boise, Idaho
19 Jan 17
Yes, I am. Just being hear here helps. Thanks
@STOUTjodee (3572)
• United States
18 Jan 17
Sounds so familiar!! My son had to be on meds as well when he was younger. He knew he had to take them, but like Josh if he was busy playing a video game or watching a movie, he couldn't pause it to take his meds. It was as if he LOVED hearing me yell at him to take his meds!!
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@celticeagle (159710)
• Boise, Idaho
19 Jan 17
Well, I am sad that you had to go through this but, I am glad he isn't the only med taking teen and is normal.
• United States
18 Jan 17
I am sure it isn't the life you wanted, but it is the life you are living. I can only say that I a sorry things are messed up, but I have no answers that would help the situation. I don't think I would be able to deal with what you go thru.
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@celticeagle (159710)
• Boise, Idaho
19 Jan 17
No, It isn't but I wouldn't want the alternative. I have been told that Cami couldn't do it without me and I couldn't let that happen. I don't think I can deal with it at times too and so I am so appreciative of this forum for my rants.
@GreatMartin (23675)
• Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
18 Jan 17
He is medically and physically sick which means HE doesn't care whether he takes his meds when he should--which isn't easy for 'caretakers' as yourself. :O)
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@celticeagle (159710)
• Boise, Idaho
19 Jan 17
Somewhat true.
@just4him (307773)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
18 Jan 17
I hope you got him to take them.
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@celticeagle (159710)
• Boise, Idaho
19 Jan 17
Yes, finally.
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@jaboUK (64361)
• United Kingdom
18 Jan 17
It really sounds as if he isn't fit to live in a home with you. If he thought there was a possibility of him being taken into care, perhaps he'd be more tractable.
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@celticeagle (159710)
• Boise, Idaho
18 Jan 17
I told him something similar tonight. He doesn't like me much in these situations because I tell him like it is and he doesn't want to hear it.
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@Jessicalynnt (50525)
• Centralia, Missouri
18 Jan 17
Sounds pretty scary and frustrating, I dont think I could do it.
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@celticeagle (159710)
• Boise, Idaho
18 Jan 17
At times I just don't wanna anymore. Takes a lot of patience which I don't have.
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