Camp Insanity before Camp Insanity

Canada
August 3, 2017 2:06pm CST
While watching the news a few days before we left to camp a man tubing on the Sacandaga River with his family lost his tube and his life. The news said he was not wearing a life jacket. They also mentioned how dangerous the river was because of heavy rain that week. When we arrived, we were warned about the raging river by the rangers. When we got to our campsite and looked down at the water it was obvious it was dangerous and the ranger said the day the man died it was two to three feet deeper than now. We have been camping there all our lives and have no memory of anyone losing their life in the river. There were years it was scary enough we didn't let our kids tube the river, but it was always calm enough that they could play in the water without worrying about them dying. It normally is a shallow rocky river... But not this year. When the ranger mentioned no life jacket my sister and I shared a moment....Our children NEVER had life jackets on and neither did we. We together tubed so many times I can't even imagine how many – hundreds. During our two weeks by the river this year we saw a very few tubing down the river, those that we did see with smaller children all wore life jackets. The older teens who tubed by our site were not, but they were warned and probably paid attention. It was a first for us. The current wanted to take us down the river when we first stepped in to wash off the sweat of setting up. We were very careful to stay near the shore and found big rocks to hang on to. We only got into the water a half dozen times. We waited for a few days for the water to calm down and it did...until it started raining again. The photo show's some teens tubing by (very fast) this summer, our older kids on tubes, our younger kids on tubes, some of our art in the water after the water slowed down this summer. We still love that river. https://www.leaderherald.com/news/local-news/2017/07/johnstown-man-drowns/
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@MALUSE (69413)
• Germany
3 Aug 17
You are really faithful friends of the place and the river.
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• Canada
3 Aug 17
We grew up there, it was close enough to where we lived to camp almost every weekend with our parents. Back in the 1950's it was a cheap weekend vacation. We loved it then and still do, now it not so cheap but well worth the price. Its a gorgeous state park.
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@katsmeow1213 (28717)
• United States
4 Aug 17
It's been a pretty rough season. I'm very surprised the man decided to do that considering the dangers.
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• Canada
4 Aug 17
I guess we will never know why he went in the raging river, I'm thinking he didn't understand how dangerous it was...
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@LadyDuck (458230)
• Switzerland
4 Aug 17
Even small and peaceful river can become dangerous in the matter of minutes during severe thunderstorms, this is how several tourists lose their lives every year.
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@LadyDuck (458230)
• Switzerland
4 Aug 17
@PainsOnSlate Most people are not capable to evaluate the dangers.
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@LadyDuck (458230)
• Switzerland
4 Aug 17
@PainsOnSlate We have every day tourists who die up on our mountains because they think that there is no danger climbing a high mountain.
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• Canada
4 Aug 17
@LadyDuck That man for sure did not evaluate the dangers. I agree with you.
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@amadeo (111948)
• United States
3 Aug 17
well is is so nice to see you here.Have not seen you a bit.Sounds like an interesting adventure there.
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• Canada
4 Aug 17
We always enjoy camping. Its nice to be home after being gone for a month. Today I need to do a bit of cleaning and a lot of painting.
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@amadeo (111948)
• United States
4 Aug 17
@PainsOnSlate yes it is always nice to come home and reflect of what you did
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@bluesa (15023)
• Johannesburg, South Africa
18 Aug 17
It is a pity he didn't have a life jacket on, he probably thought he knew the river and could handle it. Very sad news.The best one can do is be extra careful and aware and then still enjoy the river. It is good you were all able to eventually enjoy it.
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@bluesa (15023)
• Johannesburg, South Africa
18 Aug 17
@PainsOnSlate , oh no, I wonder why the news said the man had been tubing, I don't understand why they give out facts if they are not certain.
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• Canada
18 Aug 17
@bluesa I have no answer either as to why...My friend was there when they found him and found his kayak. It might have been because not all the info was given to the news and the River is well known for its tubing.
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• Canada
18 Aug 17
We ave a long time friend that lives near the camp and he is a EMS and drives an ambulance. He said the news was not true, that the man was in a kayak. Much to rough to be in a kayak because the river twirls them around ....when it's that high. He also said when they found the kayak, a life jacket was in the boat...
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• Midland, Michigan
4 Aug 17
My daughter has gone tubing several times in the past few years but I don't know whether she'd ever worn a life jacket before or not. We don't own any, but we don't spend much time on the water. I also think she goes down different rivers. At least you and your family were cautious this year when in the water and recognized the conditions were different than previous years. Hopefully this will be the only year that you've not been able to enjoy your water time like you've done in the past. Thanks for explaining the images, I couldn't quite figure out the bottom one and didn't see the people in the first one until looking again. Are you able to make some of your artwork float, or are they attached in some way to the rock they sit on so they don't get carried down the river with the water?
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• Canada
4 Aug 17
We call them Inuksuks. My youngest learned about them in school and that summer he started to build them - I think he was 8 or 9 that year (he's almost 40 now) and he started a big thing. If you look up inuksuks - its a North American's native history... He started building small ones and as he grew the bigger they got, it became a tradition in the river and many people do the sculptures when they visit. We have seen some awesome and very creative ones over the years. The rocks are just balanced and they stay up until someone or high water knocks them down.
When my oldest son came camping with us years ago he built us a beautiful dam and large pool with rocks in the river. It was big enough for a lot of us to enjoy...
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@rebelann (111194)
• El Paso, Texas
3 Aug 17
It doesn't take much for someone to drown if they happen to be in the wrong position or if the current is really strong. Some people are easily fooled by flowing water. I like your collage. You always have so much fun at that river.
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@rebelann (111194)
• El Paso, Texas
4 Aug 17
Yes, it's a shame that happened to someone @PainsOnSlate
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• United States
4 Aug 17
Oh so sorry to read about that man. RIP I love the look of the wild river Paints!!!
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• United States
18 Aug 17
@PainsOnSlate I bet it was Paints. Hope you doing well my friend.
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• Canada
18 Aug 17
The river has always been kind to us and we love it a lot. This year it truly was scary,
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@BelleStarr (61047)
• United States
13 Aug 17
Even with a vest it can be dangerous when the river is fast!! We had a close call with our daughter when she was young
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• Canada
13 Aug 17
We had a few scary moments but thankfully it was with me and not our kids.
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@sueznewz2 (10409)
• Alicante, Spain
3 Aug 17
Sorry about that man loosing his life..., i'm glad the river became less strong...so youand your family and others could enjoy it again...
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@sueznewz2 (10409)
• Alicante, Spain
4 Aug 17
@PainsOnSlate yes ... so sad...
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• Canada
4 Aug 17
We missed getting in every day but enjoyed the few days we did get in it. it is a beautiful place to camp. We felt bad for the family who will never see the camp without remembering losing a family member.
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@Fleura (29126)
• United Kingdom
31 Aug 17
What a shame, I wonder what happened exactly. But no, like you I can't imagine kids (or adults) tubing wearing life-jackets, although of course I now it's the sensible thing to do, you would feel like a real idiot and I'm sure it would be uncomfortable too!
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• Canada
2 Sep 17
If we were camping with little kids now they would wear life jackets. My sisters kids are parents now and there children wear life jackets when in the river...and I think the newer jackets are more comfortable.
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@just4him (306386)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
4 Aug 17
That's so sad for that family. I can see the water looks fast and the kids look like they're having fun.
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• Canada
4 Aug 17
The photos of the kids were old photos, the top one was the only one of this summer and the river was raging. I feel sorry for the family too and am so grateful nothing bad happened to us and our children over the years while tubing without a life jacket....
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• Canada
5 Aug 17
@just4him I'm too old to tube now but i will encourage my kids who are adults to use a life jacket if they decide to tube again.
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@just4him (306386)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
4 Aug 17
@PainsOnSlate Will you be wearing them from now on?
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@Morleyhunt (21737)
• Canada
3 Aug 17
I have a healthy respect for water (I almost drowned as a child) and when I'm in my kayak, I obey the law and wear a life jacket. When I was sailing with my sister and brother inlaw, I made sure I knew were the life jackets were, and that they were accessible.
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• Canada
4 Aug 17
A friend (an EMS) said the news got it wrong, he was there with the ambulance, he said it was a kayak and his life jacket was in the front of the boat. Crazy to have one and not put it on. I searched the net to find out if anyone talked about the kayak but no one is mentioned. I do trust my friend, he drove my niece to Albany when she started having her babies (twins) too early.
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@Morleyhunt (21737)
• Canada
4 Aug 17
@PainsOnSlate news stories are often inaccurate or only give the part of the story that sells newspapers....I read a newspaper account of the neighbours barn fire (many years ago). They focused on some unimportant trivial fact. Our biggest concern was the huge propane tank near the barn. The fireman risked their lives to cover it with a heat shield (if the unthinkable had happened, it would have been tragic for everyone nearby.) This didn't even rate a line of type.
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• Canada
4 Aug 17
@Morleyhunt that's so scary that something so important was ignored.
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@JudyEv (325854)
• Rockingham, Australia
4 Aug 17
You would have seen the river in many of its moods I guess.
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• Canada
4 Aug 17
It was a rainy camp so the water level lowered for a day and then grew back to out of control.
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@AmbiePam (85538)
• United States
5 Aug 17
It's amazing how safety conscious people become as we age. I should have worn a life jacket in the lake, but no one ever thinks it will happen to them. I'm sure when we were in the river they assumed as long as adults were nearby we were safe.
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• Canada
6 Aug 17
I hear you, we did the same thing with our children, we went right with them down the river without life jackets. It never crossed my mind - but I would have a life jacket on in my old age...
@drannhh (15219)
• United States
7 Aug 17
@painsonslate Love your rock art. Glad you got to go in the water a little even while respecting its turbulence.
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• Canada
7 Aug 17
Its our favorite place to camp. We love the river not just because its beautiful but it is noisy and hides the other campsites conversations and it allowed our children when they were small to be as noisy as they wanted to be...no one could hear them except us.
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@divalounger (5849)
• United States
11 Aug 17
That is pretty scary! I know is is possible to drown in very little water, but this is so sad for everyone concerned--
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• Canada
12 Aug 17
Agreed, I wonder if he had a clue how dangerous the river was because of the rain. He did drown but the river probably beat him up with the billions of huge rocks under the water first..
@PatZAnthony (14752)
• Charlotte, North Carolina
11 Aug 17
The river will always do with you as it wishes @PainsOnSlate Your family has been fortunate not to have any issues, but when the current is so strong, things change!
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• Canada
12 Aug 17
This year was the highest we have seen it while camping. And it rained and rained often during the two weeks. We got into the water a very few times, it was dangerous.
@JESSY3236 (18923)
• United States
4 Aug 17
My mother had once went tubing with a friend of hers. She can't swim, and she fell in the water. She didn't drown, but it scared her too much that she won't do it again. I don't know if she wearing a life jacket back then.
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• Canada
18 Aug 17
If she wasn't she was lucky... a lot of tubing rivers are shallow and you can get your feet on the ground and stand up if the current isn't too fast, this year it was too fast.
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@paigea (35701)
• Canada
17 Aug 17
Wow. That is scary. I am glad you were careful
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• Canada
18 Aug 17
We know how dangerous the river can be when its wild, usually it is just a clam beautiful river to play in.