Amway

@kitkat1 (1227)
Canada
March 23, 2007 10:25pm CST
I once was apart of this business called Amway but i left it but after thinking about it the system would really work but it is run like a pyramid system and i was told that they were illegal. I dont understand why seemed on the up and up to me. Does anyone have any information on Amway or are there any you know in it. I was always thinking about giving it another try but a little scared to but i do know there is money to be made in it if you want to work it cause i know people who have.
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33 responses
@Eskimo (2317)
24 Mar 07
Although Amway is run on similar lines to a pyramid scheme, it is actually legal, because the main part of the business is selling goods (usually expensive but good quality), and you get paid a commision for what you sell, the pyramid part is that the person who recruited you gets a percentage of what you earn (its not taken from your earnings), and possibly the person who recruited him as well also gets a percentage of your earnings - its similar to gettting referals on sites like MyLot where you get paid for what your downline earns as well.
4 people like this
• United States
25 Mar 07
my mom worked for amway in the 70's.i don't think i ever saw her make any real money at it.she ended up with a lot of products she couldn't sell-at her cost. she switched to avon and did WAY better.
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• United States
26 Mar 07
Avon? What do you know about Avon?
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@dbeast (1498)
• India
24 Mar 07
well this program indeed works only for a few who are at the top of the list.if you are lucky enough to recruit people under you then you have a cance of earning.but the cathc is that in order for funds to flow in the chain must go on.if there is a break in it then your earnings stop there too.this is the way it goes.so we need to think twice before starting off.
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@kitkat1 (1227)
• Canada
25 Mar 07
Exactly what i thought of it when i was in it and my community is not a wealthy one and to get enough under you to make a go is maddening plus the bull you go through with the order going up through you line when you dont get everything and not to mention the high priced seminars that they insisted you had to go to. To tell you the truth it felt like u were in a cult if that makes any since they even told my bf at the time he had to shave his mustache cause facial hair made it look like he had something to hide. My response to that was yeah his face maybe lol. Have you been in it before sounds like you know what you are talking about.
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• United States
24 Mar 07
Just wanted to add that AmWay/Quixtar main plant is locted about 45 minutes from me. They have been in legal trouble before. Here are some of the legal stories.... http://www.amquix.info/amway_hall_of_shame.html I have no opinion about it - good or bad, just know I am not personally interested in being affiliated with them, or many other mlm groups.
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• United States
26 Mar 07
If you are going to say things like "They have been in legal trouble before" you should also include the fact that their legal battles have been resolved, too. By not including that in your statement it appears that they are being underhanded in their dealings, which apparently is not true. I am just trying to set the matter straight regarding this. Thank you.
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@JvilleKid (131)
• United States
25 Mar 07
While Amway/Quixtar appear to have legitimate opportunities for a person to make money, the upper eschelon of owners really push the buying of tapes and other training items for the new people. After they get you to buy all of these training items you are left with a bunch of junk tapes, overpriced inventory and an empty bank account. You are better off looking for a good wholesale distributor and buying items from them to resell.
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@hoghoney (3749)
• United States
24 Mar 07
Iam not sure where or who told you that Amway was a scam. back in the day my mom sold Amway for along time when I was young and mad a very good income with it. I dont think that they are a pyramid scam please check your facts a bit more they sell very good stuff.
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• United States
24 Mar 07
A pyramid scheme is one where no actual product is being sold or traded, just money trading hands. guy would get a cut from the Since Amway sells products to produce it's income, it is actually more of a referral system; the person who signed you up gets a percent of your sales before the rest goes to the parent company (like mylot, except the money is actully taken straight from the product sale, not generated by a third party). I would think this would mean the prices of the products would be forever increasing as the teirs multiplied, but I don't really know. But, since there is a real product involved it is not illegal.
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• United States
25 Mar 07
One thing that I do and suggest others do if considering any venture is to type in the name of the company followed by the word "scam" and see what comes up. This is not to say that everything people claim as being underhanded has been honestly reported, or wasn't simply a way for them to blame the company for not doing as well as they had expected due, probably, to their own lack of efforts. It is, however, a pretty good indication when you see current and past lawsuits against an MLM, or continuing investigations. In the case of AmWay, lots of things come up when googling the phrase "AmWay Scam", including a current lawsuit pending in California.
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• United States
25 Mar 07
No need to yell, I can "hear ya" just fine. ;) Anyway the class action lawsuit I was referring to is apparently still pending and was filed in January of 2007: http://www.pyramidschemealert.org/PSAMain/news/AmwaySuedasPyramidScheme.html
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• United States
26 Mar 07
I apologize for the use of capital letters. I have been informed that this constitutes shouting. In regards to A current lawsuit pending in California. I checked out the link that you included on this subject. The following quote is from that link. "The charges against Amway/Quixtar go to the very heart of the company's business practices and most other multi-level marketing (MLM) schemes", that there is no retail "direct selling" opportunity, only an endless chain recruitment program. My main objection is with the use of the word "schemes." My Webster's New World Dictionary describes scheme as: a secret or underhanded plan; plot. The use of this word would seem to imply that any organization that uses multi-level marketing (MLM) is, in fact, a scheme. I disagree. I also must apologize for thinking that you would not, or could not, supply backup for your position. You have done so, in my estimation. Thank you for the education. Knowledge is power, but only if it is used, not abused.
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• United States
27 Mar 07
No problem whatsoever! I am pleased to make your acquaintence and appreciate you requesting some proof as I did leave that pretty vague. I have really no opinion personally one way or the other about AmWay. Whether we disagree about things now or in the future or not, I think you're a great person and your views are appreciated and as valuable as any others' views. No worries! Smiles and all the best, "Designing Life"
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• United States
24 Mar 07
I was part of AmWay long ago as well. They have products, highly overpriced, you have to buy products to remain active and nobody in my state can afford these high-priced not so great items anyway. Before you join any other business opportunity, check out http://www.pyramidschemealert.com, http://www.ripoffreport.com, the book, Stop Being A Victim available at http://www.designinglife.net/stop-being-victim.html and perhaps read my free article called "Choosing a Home Business Wisely" at http://www.designinglife.net/choose-a-business-wisely.html
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• United States
24 Mar 07
Forgot to mention...AmWay is an MLM - Multi-Level-Marketing "system". Here is some good information about why it does not work very well in today's age.... http://quatloos.com/mlm/mlm.htm
@kitkat1 (1227)
• Canada
25 Mar 07
Thanks for the info it will prove to be much of a benefit in finding the business that is safe and right for me.
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@bizcntr (233)
• Philippines
7 May 07
Hey kitkat you should also try internet marketing it is really great and very cost effective way to start a business. you can see the compilation of free to Join program here. http://makemoneywithjoseph.blogspot.com Hope it will help you.
@Kaeli72 (1230)
• United States
26 Mar 07
KitKat...I really hope you get a chance to really read this and not skim over it. Amway is residule income. Tahitian Noni International is residule income. The difference between Amway and TNI is that TNI has been so sucessful in the 10 years of being on the open market, they had a $100,000 challenge for anyone who knew of another company who is a better company. Plus, Amway had changed their name to Quickstar and they've already reached their saturation point. TNI is at 1% and again, they are more sucessful than Amway ever will be. Three of TNI's products are in the PDR and the business plan is in many of the high business magazines. It only costs $35 for a one time signup fee and a commitment of buying $120 of products a month. With those products, you can either use them or sell them at retail value and pocket the profits. The more you sell, the more money you recieve from your personal rebate check. There are offices in more than 50 countries and TNI owns every single one of them...we're not a company that's in debt nor do we lease. www.tni.com/darrenandkaelidenny If you have anymore questions, feel free to message me. It's a great opprotunity...especially with our own energy drinks out there that doesn't have any caffiene, but is all natural as with all the other products. If you're wanting to get into a multi-level marketing business, TNI is the one to do it. One of the business advisors we deal with has looked into TNI and says it's the #1 best company to get into. He said if he was doing this, he'd allow people into the business on no less than $1,000 and you can sign up with $35.
@kitkat1 (1227)
• Canada
26 Mar 07
I did get a chance to read this and do want to know more now is this being done in Canada and if so to what extent. I went to add you as a friend so once you are accepted you and me can pm about this ok.
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• United States
27 Mar 07
Kit Kat, Please be careful. Notice the use of the words "one time signup fee and a commitment of buying $120.00 of products a month." Any organization that requires you to buy anything every month (usually called autoship) should raise a red flag in your brain, immediately. The reason for this is to ensure the company's income, not your's. I will not tell you that you should not do it. You must make your own decisions in that regards.
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@kathy77 (7488)
• Australia
24 Mar 07
Yes I was apart of this business as well. Yes it is run a pyramid sytstem it is not like one it is one. Although they are on the up and up but their products are far too expensive. I would never join it again as I had a meeting only 4 months ago and you have to order more than $200 every single month. But if you want to join another one like this where you do not have to spend so much money then let me know by private message.
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@kitkat1 (1227)
• Canada
25 Mar 07
Thanks for the info Kat i believe i will take you up on that pm later.
@villageanne (8554)
• United States
27 Mar 07
I had a friend who was into it. She only did it for about 6 months before she realized that it was costing her more money than she was saving. We went to one of the meetings but we did not think it was for us and I am glad that we didnt.
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@Transformed (1262)
• United States
26 Mar 07
Technically, Amway is legal, but it's so hard to make money because the power structure at the top is so few. These pyramid schemes function in such a way that all but the top 0.001% will lose money. Think about this. If I start a chapter, and I refer ten people, I HAVE TO RELY ON THEM TO DO WORK(SPEND $200 A MONTH...USUALLY, FOR ALL THE PRODUCTS) TO MAKE MONEY. If say 2 people spend money that month, I MIGHT see profits. Even if I get a very large downline 1000 people, I still am way in the middle of someone else's even larger downline. I've heard of some teams having in excess of 250,000 people. The men at the top usually make b/t $150,000-200,000 just with "the business" but some make millions selling motivational fluff. I'm not going to tell you to NOT get involved, just because in a free-market economy, if it's legal (and it technically is, but some of the ethics are shady) then one should pursue a business venture. Just be careful though, there are a LOT of risks. Some people get so indoctrinated into that culture of money-making they lose their souls and value systems and only follow those their upline (basically a boss) tells them.
@missybal (4492)
• United States
25 Mar 07
They are not illegal. However if you are interested in network marketing I was wondering if you have ever heard of Melaleuca. You can view their website at http://melaleuca.com and you can look into their standing with the Better Business Buerau at http://search.bbb.org They have are a member of the BBB and they have been around for 22 years. I'm with them and I have a very interesting comparison between them and Amway... for one the requirements for buying products and other fees are lower with Melaleuca and the commission rates are higher with Melaleuca. You can't get any more than 4% commission with Amway and with Melaleuca you get a minium of 7% and up to 20%. Also they are risk free to try, they give 100% refunds where as a lot of other comapanies will not. I love their products too and they are so nice and it doesn't seem as pushy to me. Most of their products are made of tea tree oil and are safer for the environment and health. If you are interested in learning more about it go to http://healthybetterme.com and fill out a request for more information.
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@boboko (22)
• China
25 Mar 07
i remind you should be careful. i'm a chinese,our goverment said the amway is legality,but the common people all said it is a swindle. in china,it is called "chuan xiao".
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• Philippines
25 Mar 07
Well, I guess all those networking are scams. They will have you attend seminars and the speakers would tell the invited audience, who are at the same time prospective members, all the wonderful stories about the company and how rich they have become. The thing is, only 10% of those who joined will earn, especially those who came in first. Mostly, will have horror stories about joining. They will let you sign up for a specific amount which actually a reasonable amount to start up your own small business. If you won't be able to recruit others to join under you then you will not earn. Well, we have to be cautious in joining this businesses with pyramiding schemes. Many wants to get rich by using others effort. That's really unfair, right?
@Zelmarq (11503)
• Cebu City, Philippines
24 Mar 07
Yes its a pyramid system and I have treid it. The products are quite expensive but they are good. I even joined for memebership but I have not pursued the recruting of new memebers under my name coz I dont have the time and the guts to do it.
@vanities (11401)
• Davao, Philippines
24 Mar 07
ive heared of it too..but im not interested on direct selling...i dont think its a pyramid thing..if i were you i will continue..
@caribe (2465)
• United States
24 Mar 07
I think that Amway is a legitimate business with good products, but in order to make any money you have to breathe, eat, and sleep Amway. Most of your friends will scatter when they see you coming because they don't want to hear yet another one of your sales pitches. Comparable products can be bought much cheaper at other places and most of the people are keeping the organization going by their purchases, but they are not making a living at it. There are a few that are, just not very many. I guess you could be one of those few, it is just not very likely.
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@MarvinP (74)
• Philippines
24 Mar 07
I assure you Amway is not a scam, much less a pyramid scam. It is a legitimate MLM company that has been in existence for more than thirty years, and is a respected one at that. You try and renew your membership with Amway, you have nothing to lose. Or, if you want a similar business with full support 24/7, you may try joining me at DXN INTERNATIONAL. Visit my website: http://www.livingurdreams.ws .