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myLot reputation of 63/100. ParaTed2k (6357)   ranked 325 out of 3,985 in politics 5 years ago

Barack Obama has made an impressive stamp on the US political scene. He is younger than almost anyone who has ever even run for President, with less experience than most city mayors, yet he is enjoying a pretty awesome following.

So folks, tell me what it is you like about him. Don't bore me with his looks, his race, or pie in the sky statements like, "he's all about change". Let's get into specifics about the issues you consider important, and why he is the best candidate for those issues.

 

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1. myLot reputation of 42/100. redyellowblackdog (4040)   5 years ago

I strongly support Barack Hussein Obama to be the democratic nominee for president.

Specifically, what I like about Barack Hussein Obama is that he is an 'empty suit'. He speeches concerning foreign policy are naive. His knowledge of national defense issues is abysmal. His understanding of the actual economics of how things work is non-existent. Why do I like all that?

Any conservative republican will be able to beat him.


myLot reputation of 85/100. oneandonemakesix (23975)  5 years ago

LOL,

You cracked me up with that post, as far as what I like about Barack, is well the only good thing is I can think of is that.........

He's not Hillary

I think what we are facing with the Democratic candidates is that Hillary has too much experience, Obama has too little, and well Edwards falls in the middle and hes no more desireable than the others.

Mooch


myLot reputation of 42/100. redyellowblackdog (4040)  5 years ago

With more experience, Obama might be okay. The thing of it is, the man is exceptionally brillant. He just suffers from a lack of being able to be objective enough in analysis of complex events. I've found that many really high IQ people have this problem. My guess is that they get use to being right so much they forget that unless they seriously analyze something rigoursly they are just as likely to wrong as anyone else. I think their brillance lures them into the laziness of thinking they are always right from a sort of circular reasoning. You know, something like this,"I'm really smart, I know this from experience, so I must be right!". Unfortunately, in matters of a somewhat subjective nature, this kind of thinking produces bad results.


myLot reputation of 62/100. bravenewworld (357)   ranked 827 out of 3,985 in politics  5 years ago

Careful, RYB, you've underestimated Obama before, right?

I'm not sure that record and experience matter so much, nor specific policies.. How else could Bush have ever become president? Obama has general policies in line with the Democrats, and no doubt would surround himself with experienced people if he were president.

He's appealing because of his charisma, but also because he seems sincere and unphoney. His talk of change obviously resonates, in particular being anti-lobbyist. He would clearly bring new energy and ideas to the presidency.

I think he's also an inspirational speaker, which would be an important asset (sorely lacking in Bush).


myLot reputation of 42/100. redyellowblackdog (4040)  5 years ago

Yes, I have underestimated Obama in the past.

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2. JaLuvYa (77)   ranked 1,251 out of 3,985 in politics   5 years ago

You know, I actually agree that he is not ready. One day perhaps but not now. So it's really sad, don't you think that soooooooooooo many people are coming out in droves to support a man unqualified just to get Republicans out of the White House! To keep them from completely running this country into the ground!
Barack Hussein Obama- was really not called for! Perhaps you think it's funny... but to certain people it would not be. Not that you care.
I like him. But just because I'm black doesn't mean he get's my vote. I'd still vote for the only candidate the two of you would probably hate more... Hillary :)


myLot reputation of 63/100. ParaTed2k (6357)   ranked 325 out of 3,985 in politics  5 years ago

If you think Barack Hussein Obama is uncalled for, you need to take that up with his parents. That is his full name.

I don't think many Democrats are picking a candidate just to get Republicans out of the White House. I think they are picking a candidate to get a Democrat in the White House.

I think it's hilarious that you say that you twist a simple question into a shot at me. ;~D

All I asked was what Obama supporters like about his stand on the issues.

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3. myLot reputation of 89/100. cripfemme (7250)   ranked 220 out of 3,985 in politics   5 years ago

He's a sponsor of this bill I support the Community Choice Act (CCA). It would allow users who need Personal Care assistance (PCA) to live wherever want and keep their services. Right now those decisions are state based and each state gets to decide what services it will provide. I wouldn't vote for anyone you didn't support that bill.


myLot reputation of 63/100. ParaTed2k (6357)   ranked 325 out of 3,985 in politics  5 years ago

Thank you for being issue specific.

I'd have to say I'd be against any federalization of state programs.


myLot reputation of 89/100. cripfemme (7250)   ranked 220 out of 3,985 in politics  5 years ago

Just curious, why?


myLot reputation of 63/100. ParaTed2k (6357)   ranked 325 out of 3,985 in politics  5 years ago

Because every situation should be handled by the smallest level of government possible. That is the way our system is set up. The federal government is bound by the U.S. Constitution, which states that any authority or power not granted to the federal government by the Constitution belongs to the States and We the People.

Our nation was set up so that each community could set it's own standard (within the confines of the U.S. and State Constitutions).

If one state can dictate the terms of this PCA to another, then the people of the other state lose their right to run the PCA the way they feel is best.


myLot reputation of 89/100. cripfemme (7250)   ranked 220 out of 3,985 in politics  5 years ago

But this bill would give individual PCA users and their family if they are children. The power to determine where they live and what services they need on an individualized basis. It would just allow PCA users to be like every other American and live and work where we choose with fear of losing needed services, which are sometimes survival orientated (like going to the bathroom, eating, and washing yourself).


myLot reputation of 63/100. ParaTed2k (6357)   ranked 325 out of 3,985 in politics  5 years ago

Then if you choose to move, learn what the PCAs are like where you want to move, then decide if the PCAs in the area are what you want or need.

What you (and Obama) are proposing would be just the opposite. You would impose requirements on areas just in case you might want to move there.

It's not up to you (or me, or anyone else) to decide what is best for areas we don't live in. No matter how convenient it might be.


myLot reputation of 42/100. redyellowblackdog (4040)  5 years ago

"I'd have to say I'd be against any federalization of state programs."

Me too!

Another point often overlooked is that the federal government being in charge limits, stunts, inhibits, and stiffles growth in learning and innovation as to the methods of government which work best.

Imagine 50 states all trying to do things their own way. Some succeed, some don't. But what works and what doesn't becomes obvious to all and the better method is adapted more widely.

Now, imagine an egotistical, power hungry, centralized government, arrogant with self determined belief in its own superiority forcing its will on 50 states. When they really are right, that's fine, but often they are not. When they are not right they impose their stupidity on 50 states.

Additionally, whether they are right concerning a specific policy or not, practically all innovation and experimentation STOPS!

For government to become better, it must be as decentralized as possible. Otherwise, it becomes stagnet, arrogrant, and elitist. In short, just like a dictatorship even when it is a democracy!


myLot reputation of 89/100. cripfemme (7250)   ranked 220 out of 3,985 in politics  5 years ago

I guess I'm not going to have agree to disagree with you. I'm for the most part a federalist, especially when it comes to civil rights issues.

Take the civil rihts movement. States (like Alabama, Missippi, Louisiana, for example) would've never respected the civil rights of black Americans had the feds not stepped in (look at the Emmitt Till murder). And why should the free movement of disabled people be restricted, just because we need a little, or a lot of help.

As far as I'm concerned wider rights issues of any group are a federal matter. No state ought to be able to say, "we don't allow interracial marriages" or "we allow people to get beaten because their sexual orientation or gender indentity because we don't prosocute those who hurt them" or "we exclude disabled people because we don't provide them what they need to live here."

I don't think that exspecting your civil rights to be protected shouldn't depend on what state you live in.


myLot reputation of 63/100. ParaTed2k (6357)   ranked 325 out of 3,985 in politics  5 years ago

I agree that Consitutional Rights are a federal issue... but what you are talking about isn't a "right" at all.

Programs that are set up to help people with special needs are not a right. Moving from one place to another is a right, but imposing your ideas of how people with special needs should be taken care of isn't.

But yes, we can disagree on this without animosity.


myLot reputation of 87/100. Modestah (7912)  5 years ago

What an excellent exchange of ideas here! thanks guys, I appreciate it!
thought filled and earnest!

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4. myLot reputation of 87/100. agfarm (747)   ranked 415 out of 3,985 in politics   5 years ago

With an honest answer to your question ( admittedly...I'm Intrigued by Ron Paul as well)
But I find Barack to be Cerebral. Which is very appealing.
again...he has the Capacity for Abstract thought , Not to mention that his Chisled features don't hurt either.
But he represents the youth. The never-tested youth , whom are willing to
take the Chance. But mostly....it's his Degree of Intelligence for me.
Peace , A.


myLot reputation of 63/100. ParaTed2k (6357)   ranked 325 out of 3,985 in politics  5 years ago

Yes, apparently abstract thought is his strong suit... unfortunately concrete ideas seem to escape his abilities.

Abstract thoughts are great, but I'm still wondering why people who back him can't seem to tell me how his stance on issues best matches their own.


myLot reputation of 87/100. agfarm (747)   ranked 415 out of 3,985 in politics  5 years ago

Dear Parated....One could ask the same for Mitt Romney could they not?
It's about Positive energy.
Barack brings a new element to the Big-Picture.
People see hope in this Candidate. A hope which doesn't exist in many of the Candidates. ( Admittedly....I'm still pulling for Ron Paul ) He has Moxy.


myLot reputation of 63/100. ParaTed2k (6357)   ranked 325 out of 3,985 in politics  5 years ago

Except for the fact that Romney answers direct questions with factual answers, instead of abstract ideals like "hope".

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5. myLot reputation of 95/100. spoiled311 (3947)   ranked 1,166 out of 3,985 in politics   5 years ago

hi parated!

i really don't know what makes obama tick. i am from the philippines but am aware of the political goings on in your country. i just think that america wants change and the people are willing to put anyone there that is different.

but my husband wants to ron paul to become president. hehehe dunno why. he says something about integrity...

God bless ! take care!


myLot reputation of 63/100. ParaTed2k (6357)   ranked 325 out of 3,985 in politics  5 years ago

That's kind of ironic since I see Obama and Ron Paul supporters pretty much the same. Both have a tendency to recreate Obama and Paul in their own image... no matter what the candidates themselves have to say. ;~D

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6. myLot reputation of 94/100. PunkyMcPunk (1084)   ranked 115 out of 3,985 in politics   5 years ago

Maybe I'm butting my nose and mouth into a place it doesn't belong because I am Canadian living in Canada so I can't vote in your election ;). However, not only do I spend at least a week per month visiting your beautiful country but I have considered moving there as a legal resident (while retaining my Canadian citizenship- as I am wonderfully proud to be Canuck)also whether anyone chooses to believe it or not American Politics greatly effects my country and i do like to keep up to date on things as well. Anyways! As for Obama. I had considered him the man I wanted to win the race (so to speak-I've since done a 360 as I discovered Ron paul and then moved to Fred Thompson as I discovered who and what he was)

I liked Obama because as many have mentioned he is young. Some may say this is BAD because he has no experience but I like to look at the flip side that he hasn't become just another cog in the political wheel spouting out bull to gain access to a position. He still has fire and passion. He sees things from a younger persons viewpoint and may have new fresh ideas that is always needed in politics.
Also as many have already stated he is brilliantly intelligent.

But I wouldn't vote for him because he has become something of a "hollywood" star that is riding a tide of popularity that I don't think he has earned through any speech or any topics he has debated. I can't seem to get a clear grasp on what this man supports nor how he proposes to do anything he has discussed that he would like to do.


myLot reputation of 63/100. ParaTed2k (6357)   ranked 325 out of 3,985 in politics  5 years ago

Don't worry about piping in even if you aren't eligible to vote. The question was put out to the world, so I have no problem with "outsiders" putting in their two cents.

Besides, you added one of the best, most complete synopsis of the Obama campaign I've read so far.

I agree, I'd be a lot more willing to support him if I had any idea what he stood for. He makes it a point to not answer direct questions with a direct answer. So he wouldn't get my vote.


myLot reputation of 94/100. PunkyMcPunk (1084)   ranked 115 out of 3,985 in politics  5 years ago

I do think that Obama will win the presidency though. If he does, I think like Bill Clinton, he will do wonders for the American International relations because Obama is an amazing speaker. But I don't know what good he would do for your country internally. I fear he may do what the Canadian Liberal party did back in the 80s and spend spend spend on social programs and things that really really need the money but end up almost bankrupting your economics and sending your country spiralling into a recession like what Canada had.


myLot reputation of 63/100. ParaTed2k (6357)   ranked 325 out of 3,985 in politics  5 years ago

So you think he will win, but he'll be a disaster for the US?


myLot reputation of 94/100. PunkyMcPunk (1084)   ranked 115 out of 3,985 in politics  5 years ago

Given that he won Iowa and basically New Hampshire (who I've believed to think like me and be more libertarian than liberal or in the US case democratic) But yes, I think Obama is riding a tide of winning. I think he will beat Hilary and probably pick her as his Vice./running mate. Those 2 together with the support that they each have individually will kick some Republican Ar@e. There are just too many Rep. people and then the independents. Too many wide spread single Rep. votes will be swallowed but the united Democratic mass vote.
I think as stated before Obama will be great in repairing any international damage done to your countries reputation. But I think his ideas for you internally will be about spending too much money and not have any clear valid steps to putting these social programs in place and retaining a strong economy. I think the democrats will drain your coffers with ideas that mean well but aren't fiscally responsible but isn't that what all liberal groups are about?

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7. myLot reputation of 83/100. xfahctor (7620)   ranked 42 out of 3,985 in politics   5 years ago

You hit the nail on the head darling, on all issues. He is all fluff, no stuff. He is, to his credit, a very intelligent, articulate and passionate person. He is running a nearly impecibly clean and honest campaign, something I really respect. However, I cant pin him down on issues and the little I can pin down, reads out like a supermarket of social programs and a welfare nation. Simply not what this country is about.


myLot reputation of 83/100. xfahctor (7620)   ranked 42 out of 3,985 in politics  5 years ago

ps:
The "darling" was to punky, not you ted, sorry, she's just cuter and, well, does "things" to me you just cant, lol.

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8. myLot reputation of 87/100. Modestah (7912)   5 years ago

I can not think of a thing that I find appealing about him to be our president, I could say it would mean that hillary didn't make it, but then again if I was asked about hillary I could answer at least it isn't obama???

I am not into liberalism


myLot reputation of 63/100. ParaTed2k (6357)   ranked 325 out of 3,985 in politics  5 years ago

Fair enough... and I agree, I'm not into liberalism either.

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