What does "Big Brother" mean to you? Do you

United States
March 15, 2008 11:52am CST
immediately think of the TV series? Do you think of George Orwell? Is there an age line that divides people's first reaction? Is there an education correlation? I just started thinking about this. I used it in conversation, in context that I thought would be obvious I was referring to Orwell, but nobody got it. I admit, though, when I hear the phrase on TV now, I automatically think of the shows. Has the series stolen the effectiveness of this political reference?
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@angeljenn (894)
• Zaragoza, Spain
16 Mar 08
hello there to U...for me, whenever i hear "Big Brother," it reminds me of the T.V. reality series, "Big Brother." Well, there are several views regarding what "Big Brother" really means...in my own point of view, it's a great person whom you can depend to, and would be there whenever you are in trouble, or in need of help...a great leader... About the series, yes, i would say that the series have stolen the meaning of "Big Brother," because a lot of people really loves watching that reality show... It became a hit on several countries...it has different editions, and different versions...so no doubt, why a lot of people always refer "Big Brother" as a T.V. show and not a "person." It's pretty obvious, that a lot of people have been hooked up on T.V...but i do respect other's views and opinions regarding about this issue...to me "Big Brother" should really mean a good leader who doesn't have bad qualities and knows how to handle the society... This is really a good discussion...have a blessed day ahead of U...may GOD BLESS U & UR family always!!!
• United States
16 Mar 08
In one way, the phrase has become more positive, I guess. For fans of the shows and those who have good older brothers, the meaning seems to envoke really nice feelings. The same cannot be said for those who immediately think of Orwell's usage. Perhaps it is more a measure of outlook and mentality?
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@Tetchie (2932)
• Australia
15 Mar 08
I think the TV series is an afront to human intelligence personally, boring as hell too. The term Big Brother means a dictatorship to me, either someone or a meme that overrides my sense of individuality and freedom to make choices. (George Orwell's reference to a totalitarian society if you like). I wonder if the younger generation that watches this show actually knows the term in it's original meaning. Would like to know if they do or not.
@Tetchie (2932)
• Australia
16 Mar 08
The English language at large is being ba*ta*dis*d. (I don't have stars in my eyes, just can't use that word here!) TV moguls use poetic license to dramatise and are leaving a terrible mess in their wake. Personally I am not being entertained by TV these days. Think I need to be between the age of 14 and 23 to be considered as entertainable!
• United States
16 Mar 08
I despise the show. It's ironic though that, as viewers of the show, so many people have become "Big Brother Watching" without knowing what the phrase entailed. Sometimes I think the war on colloquilisms in the English language is getting out of hand. But I digress . . . :)
• United States
18 Mar 08
ARGH! You can't type "ba*ta*di*ed" on here? Is there a list somewhere? I might be in trouble with all my potty mouth language! :)
@emeraldisle (13138)
• United States
16 Mar 08
When I hear it I immediately think of "1984". The TV show doesn't even come to mind unless we are speaking about shows then it might, and that's a big maybe on that one. I have never watched the show. It doesn't interest me at all. Most of the "reality" shows don't because all they seem to me to be is a popularity contest and not reality at all. However that is not what the discussion is about so I'll go back. For myself I think it will always mean the society George Orwell described. Maybe for the younger generations it might mean the show but in some ways the expression "Big Brother is watching" still applies with it; although it doesn't give the same sense of foreboding as the original. The idea that you have to be careful of what you do and say because others might see is still present. I'm sure that is why they used that name for it. I don't think it's stolen it's effectiveness but it probably has watered it down quite a bit.
@emeraldisle (13138)
• United States
18 Mar 08
You're welcome and I think you are right on that. People think of watching in secret but where one has to be careful of what is done while being watched. That is the big difference. The thing is I can still see Big Brother happening all too easily, maybe not when Orwell thought it would but it is still very possible.
• United States
18 Mar 08
I would hope the name was chosen for these good reasons. Unfortunately, as you say, the show doesn't have the same "evil" connotation. It has become "voyuerism" instead of "pervasive spying". THanks for your response!
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@maybebaby (1230)
• Canada
16 Mar 08
When I hear Big Brother I automatically think of Orwell and 1984. I have noticed that most people now think about the reality show. The show has just become so popular and most people don't even understand how ironic the title is or where it even comes from.
• United States
18 Mar 08
I wish, when situations like this arise, the new users of the old saying would explain the original meaning for historical perspective. The Big Brother show should say something about the Orwellian origin in its opening credits, for instance. I know, however, that I am probably expecting too much from TV's newer "creative geniuses".
@p1kef1sh (45681)
15 Mar 08
When I use the term I mean in the Orwellian sense. But I must admit that when someone mentions it (unless I already understand the context) I automatically think of that awful, vapid, boring as heck, dull as ditchwater TV series. I don't think that the show has monopolized the saying yet, but we are coming pretty close, especially as there is a growing group of people that will never have heard of 1984. I stubbornly use the word gay meaning merry or light hearted these days because I am so annoyed that it has been hijacked to describe homosexual and lesbian activity. I do get the odd look, but I don't care.
• United States
16 Mar 08
Good point about the "happy" word. It's messed up that I had to active "mature" preference just to read your comment. And, in case I don't say it in another response response, I LOATHE those shows. How did they get so popular?
@p1kef1sh (45681)
17 Mar 08
OMG. Is the word gay a mature content one. Where in the World are we going.
• United States
18 Mar 08
It had to be either "gay", "lesbian", "homosexual" or "ditchwater", although "vapid" isn't very common, it may have been misunderstood. ;)
@cortjo73 (6498)
• United States
16 Mar 08
I automatically think about the show now but, not before the show came out. The problem is that it is literally my favorite show, hands down. I am obsessed with it while it is on and when I find out when it is going to be on, I get really excited. So, unfortunately, I guess that the show has stolen a little bit of its meaning.
• United States
16 Mar 08
Among your friends, do you think it is same way? If you have older relatives around, try asking them. It is an interesting experiment. Thanks for your response!
@chiyosan (30186)
• Philippines
15 Mar 08
nooo i do not think of the show when i hear big brother. i think of my sibling... my kuya, my big brother. :)
• United States
16 Mar 08
And another country heard from, as the saying goes. I don't have an older sibling so I tend to overlook this obvious meaning! Thanks for your time!
@stephcjh (38473)
• United States
17 Mar 08
When I think of Big Brother, I think back to my childhood and remember a time when I wished that I had one. I had 3 sisters. I also think of the Big Brother series also. I used to watch that all the time. I have missed alot of it this season though because I like to watch American Idol and it is on at the same time. I think the shows these days have definitely changed our perception of words.
@my52cents (569)
• United States
15 Mar 08
I still think of George Orwell, thank goodness. I would hate to think that the term loses its significance based on a really, well I was going to say "stupid" tv show, but that's not a very good word and my mother never allowed us to say that when I was little, so I won't. Besides, the show is much more than just that. It's actually insulting and I don't understand at all why people watch it. (I did watch part of one season, so I do know what I'm missing.) It's sad that nobody got it when you used the term in conversation. I think I might try that experiment on my 20's-age children, but I'm almost positive they would take the reference in its original intent since neither of them watches the show.
• United States
16 Mar 08
Yep, I really tried to watch the show in season 1. I somehow thought it would have value as a study in social science. I thought wrong! I can't believe it not only continues but has launched a slew of copycats and similarly formatted messes. C'est La Vie! (If you'll pardon my French, HeeHee)
@dragon54u (31633)
• United States
15 Mar 08
I've never watched the show so I don't associate the phrase with it. However, I was shocked that my kids (19 & 20 now) weren't required to read Brave New World and Animal Farm in high school, nor Lord of the Flies in the lower grades. We're raising a generation of illiterates. I sound like my grandma, I know. But independent thinking is discouraged, it seems, and it's alarming. The Brave New World isn't far away at this rate.
• United States
16 Mar 08
I agree. I couldn't believe my kids didn't even get a summer reading list! Neither one of them has had to do a book report this year either! Now if we had an Animal Farm video game . . .
@teeaye98 (287)
• United States
15 Mar 08
I need to respond before I read any more of the other responses. I must say, when I read the title of this discussion, I immediately thought of my biological "Big Brother!" Now I Must say, I am fairly young. I was born in 1980 and that might say a lot to some. Like many other young people, I have no idea who George Orwell is. I know that it horrible, but it is the truth. This tells me many things. 1. I need to read more, 2. I need to be involved in my children's education, otherwise they will end up not knowing much of anything, and 3. I don't watch much television. I have heard of the TV show, but I've never seen it. It amazes me that my generation spends so most of it's time watching TV, checking email, and partying, that we don't pay attention to the important parts of life. Like what's going on in our world!
• United States
16 Mar 08
You are in a happy place. Elevated far above the rabble. As I wrote above, I too easily overlook the most obvious definition of "big brother", mainly because I don't have one. I suppose someone who had a great experience with the Big Brothers/Big Sisters Program would also have a very different first impression to the phrase! As for the TV show, be thankful you have avoided it. Thanks!