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myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (11587)   ranked 224 out of 38,129 in life2 years ago

Okay this is a bit of a rant about furniture products

...Heaven knows furniture in general is not cheap nowadays...for the money we do pay for furniture we expect something that will last a long time, that is durable, and made of quality products and construction. If we buy furniture made of wood we kind of expect it to be made of wood..like duh?

But it's not. Most furniture is now made of particle board which is like glorified sawdust compressed and glorified contact paper over it..Heaven forbid you get the surface of a particle board furniture product wet..for after time it buckles and swells..not so with a real wood product of furniture..And when was the last time you got a piece of furniture made of this particle board that was assembled? Intact? You have to wind up assembling it yourself.

I do happen to love wood furniture...but REAL wood...yet if one then tries to buy REAL wooden furniture and fully assembled we have to spend a small fortune for it..sort of the same insanity if one wants to buy organically grown foods which are healthier for you instead of processed crap, but one also has to pay an exorbitant price...Is there any sanity to this? Do you find it ironic? I would think it would cost MORE to "process" particle board furniture than the natural wood furniture that lasts so much longer. Case in point...go to a major museum say here in America...like the Metropolitan Museum of Art in NYC..go to their colonial wing..there exists on display furniture made in the late 1600s and 1700s and are still in great condition...could we say that about today's particle board furniture that only lasts a few years without some damage to it?

Does anyone else get annoyed about this or is it only me?? We pay good money for furniture...shouldn't it last? If it's wood...shouldn't it be wood and not particle board? Is it because we've become such a disposable society that things in general are made chintzy??

 
 
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1. myLot reputation of 99/100. ElicBxn (15191)   ranked 1,130 out of 38,129 in life   2 years ago

Of course the reason partical board is cheaper is because they are using what was once a waste product to make it from, and glue.

Some heat, some pressure and - viola! - trash to treasure!

Well, for the saw mill anyway....


myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (11587)   ranked 224 out of 38,129 in life  2 years ago

MMm....are you sure that's trash to treasure?? or trash to trash.. lol


myLot reputation of 99/100. ElicBxn (15191)   ranked 1,130 out of 38,129 in life  2 years ago

I did quilify that it was treasure for the sawmills...

I really wanted to say trash to trash - but what was formally only good for animal bedding was now sold for bucks.

At least its out of the ocean or landfills - for a bit longer.

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2. myLot reputation of 99/100. scarlet_woman (8828)   ranked 17 out of 38,129 in life   2 years ago

that particle board stuff does suck,doesn't it?
i guess maybe it's to use up left over shavings and to make cheaper furniture available,but whenever possible i go to flea markets and look for the solid wood.i'd rather restore something then get a board piece for the reasons you stated.


myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (11587)   ranked 224 out of 38,129 in life  2 years ago

Yup--that particle board stuff does suck..doesn't even smell like real wood and don't laugh but love the smell of wood furniture...I know I'm a tad weirdrasp


myLot reputation of 99/100. scarlet_woman (8828)   ranked 17 out of 38,129 in life  2 years ago

oh i hear you-lemon polish on nice wood smells just awesome.not the same on particle.not to mention the particle never looks..fully clean?to me no matter how many times you wipe it down.

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3. myLot reputation of 93/100. Goodie123 (7548)   ranked 1,037 out of 38,129 in life   2 years ago

There is a furniture store about 40 minutes from me, and everytime I saw it, I drooled.
The furniture was made of solid timber.
I may have drooled when I saw the furniture, but when I saw the price I fainted.

We have one piece of furniture in which the frame is made of solid timber.
It is our good lounge suite. (No one is allowed to sit in it)
When we bought this house we had it recovered.
The upholsterer said he could have sold it at least 10 times while he was working on it.
He even wanted to buy it from us.
He said it is one the best made suites he has seen in a long time.
My partner has had it for over 20 years.

The particle board crap we buy today is not even nailed together,
It is stapled.
What happens to staples, they work their way out.
And before too long your furniture is falling apart.

Oh yeah get it wet, we get a crumbly mess.


myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (11587)   ranked 224 out of 38,129 in life  2 years ago

If and when I get that business with that check solved I'm in the "market" for a desperately new bed...been hunting around for bedframes already...guess I'm going to be stuck getting the particle board crap...I came across one website that had REAL wooden frames..and like you fainted at the price..oh, and don't get me going about the cost of mattresses...wanna laugh??...I think it's Sealy or Serta that has a separate line of "Vera Wang" mattresses...just because it has her name on it, the cost of a mattress is something like $2,000 ARE THEY NUTS??


myLot reputation of 93/100. Goodie123 (7548)   ranked 1,037 out of 38,129 in life  2 years ago

2,000 bucks, Holey Moley.
what happened to the days when the mattress came supplied witht he bed.


myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (11587)   ranked 224 out of 38,129 in life  2 years ago

Alas Goodie getting a bed AND mattress...those days are longgggggg gone
Hehee..found the website..its Serta and for your perusal and delight I present the Vera Wang mattress

http://www.us-mattress.com/serta-vera-wang-serene-indulgence.html


myLot reputation of 93/100. Goodie123 (7548)   ranked 1,037 out of 38,129 in life  2 years ago

Gee Pye for that price, I would hope they are supplying a handsome hunk of a man also. lol


myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (11587)   ranked 224 out of 38,129 in life  2 years ago

Hey!! That's not a bad idea!!rasp


myLot reputation of 93/100. Goodie123 (7548)   ranked 1,037 out of 38,129 in life  2 years ago

Yes and you should be able to pick and choose which hunk you want.

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4. myLot reputation of 92/100. 4mymak (1434)   ranked 3,470 out of 38,129 in life   2 years ago

i think it's difficult to get real wood for furniture, because of all the hype that people make today about cutting down trees... and the process to get the tree 'out of the forest' to the factory is actually very costly.

but you are right... even if we need to used 'processed' wood for furniture - it should be of good quality and durable - the manufacturers ought to put more study into this - giving the customers - value for their spending.


myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (11587)   ranked 224 out of 38,129 in life  2 years ago

Did you know that more trees though are cut down though for the paper industry rather than for furniture? Especially companies like Kimberly Clark that cuts down the trees in the Boreal Forest to use for Tissues, and toilet paper? At least I buy paper products that are recycled...but yes even furniture that has been recycled as particle board should be made better at least

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5. myLot reputation of 94/100. gabs8513 (19410)   ranked 1,062 out of 38,129 in life   2 years ago

I really donm't know Pye I just know that it makes me angry that we have to pay so much
It is like everything else though it just does not last as well any more because it is not built like it used to be
But I have to say though that I must have fallen lucky with mine 5 years ago it is not proper wood but it is 5 years old and still in very good Condition


myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (11587)   ranked 224 out of 38,129 in life  2 years ago

Yes even electronics don't last as long as they used to either, most get kinks in them after a year or two and either have to be repaired or replaced. thumbdown

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6. myLot reputation of 89/100. bonbon664 (2304)   ranked 1,679 out of 38,129 in life   2 years ago

Unfortunately, I think it's a sign of our times. Most of the furniture you find in the chain stores now is simply crap, because it's cheaper to manufacture. If you want a real piece of furniture made of actual wood, it's really expensive. It's terrible how flimsy some of the stuff is made these days. I have a dining room table that my great grandfather made. It's solid as a rock, and I will have it forever. Now, the couch I bought 5 years ago looks horrible.
The furniture makers today wouldn't know a dovetail joint if it jumped up and bit them in the butt.
It's sad. So, anything I want to last for a while, I often go to auctions and buy something that has been around for 50 or 100 years, but will be around for another 100 more.


myLot reputation of 34/100. zukepr (11799)   ranked 18,317 out of 38,129 in life  2 years ago

"furniture makers today wouldn't know a dovetail joint if it jumped up and bit them in the butt"
LMAO sad but true!
I have a couple of dressers in my kids' rooms that are older than I am and may be older than my husband too LOL
They have the dove tail joints
now some of the newer "furniture" in my house that dont have dove tail, we have had to on several occasions nail the drawers together because they fall apart when you pull them out!
When I do shopping for wood furniture I go to resale shops and consignment shops first and look for good quality pieces that can be refinished
I am tired of putting together fall apart furniture LOL


myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (11587)   ranked 224 out of 38,129 in life  2 years ago

I love that line too bonbon...wouldn't know a dovetail joint if it jumped and bit them in the butt...heehee
The REAL problem though too, is most of this furniture is stuff you have to assemble yourself--I had to do that with my oversized computer desk...just me all by my wittle lone-y..nearly got a hernia doing it to as it's a heavy mother--I think I mainly started this rant cause if I get my check issue solved (another discussion) I desperately need a new bed...I mean desperately!! The bedframe is about 47 years old but now crappy looking even though it isn't particle board and the way it creaks and groans (and no I'm not overweight) I'm expecting it to fall through and visit my downstairs neighbors one nightcry

Too bad years ago we didn't keep my great-grandmother's old furniture when she had died...It's now probably in some land fill decades ago...but that furniture was made well--even had the signature of the craftsperson who made it...how many furniture pieces have that now? They wouldn't dare put their signature on it cause they know it's crap

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7. myLot reputation of 34/100. zukepr (11799)   ranked 18,317 out of 38,129 in life   2 years ago

I have to agree!
That wanna-be furniture is crap
press board, particle baord, MDF or whatever you want to call it doesnt last!
Now I have both that wanna-be furniture and real furniture in my house
my real wood in the living romm and dining room
most everything else is that wanna-be stuff and its been replaced a couple of times (which can be just as costly as buying real wood after awhile)
whereas my real wood, because it is well taken care of by me, will probably last forever which is great because i paid out the wazoo for it
one of my favorite things about the real wood furniture is that there is no assembly required!


myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (11587)   ranked 224 out of 38,129 in life  2 years ago

Yup--when you think of it, in the long run, by keep buying the crappy particle furniture to replace it over and over again, might as well buy the real stuff, but like who can afford it at any given time? You would need a small loan for that

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8. myLot reputation of 99/100. blackbriar (6210)   ranked 381 out of 38,129 in life   2 years ago

I hear ya about the real wood but my computer desk is 7yrs old and still like new even though it's had milk, coffee, and water spilled on it over the years. My husband also had an entertainment center that we just threw out last fall as well. That thing, gosh...had to be over 15yrs. old since he had it b4 we even met and that was 14 yrs. ago. It had a few water 'bubble' marks on it's top from the fishbowl but other than that, was in pretty good shape. Just got tired of moving it around..darn thing was HEAVY. Our bed, couch and chair, I believe, are the only real wood pieces in our house. Specially the couch, it's old and all exposed finished wood with a futon mattress since the original cushions wore out ages ago. Guess it depends on how well you treat the 'fake' wood furniture on how long it will last ya.


myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (11587)   ranked 224 out of 38,129 in life  2 years ago

well unfortunately my computer desk that I got last year is a particle board type...and yikes heavy as heck...I had to assemble it myself...now I'm Soooo careful with it, and won't have any glass of liquids to drink while here so won't get that "bubble" effect ..uh, just in case I spill something, but the dang thing has scratches on it..uh, no not from me...when I first got the computer desk assembled since the cats were curious about it used to slide on it as if they were roller blading on it... sad


myLot reputation of 99/100. blackbriar (6210)   ranked 381 out of 38,129 in life  2 years ago

lol That's the very reason why I will no longer have a coffee table in my living room. I was tired of the cats running and jumping on it to slide to the other side, wiping out anything that was on it not to mention that the dogs' tails would wipe it off as well whenever they wagged their tails near it. I gave up and burned it since it was so full of scratches that noone would of wanted it.

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9. myLot reputation of 97/100. deebomb (8978)   ranked 415 out of 38,129 in life   2 years ago

It's unfortunate but we live in a throw away society these days. Ether it's like the furniture are like the electronics we buy. Before you get them home home they are out of date. As for furniture. It takes a lot of drying to get real wood to a condition that can be used in furniture. Wood has to be dried so after the furniture is made it doesn't shrink and become warped. They can dry it in ovens. The hard woods takes more years to grow than the soft pines that are readily available today.


myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (11587)   ranked 224 out of 38,129 in life  2 years ago

Yes we are in a disposable world unfortunately...and yes, while it may take longer to "season" real wood for furniture it does at least last longer

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10. myLot reputation of 95/100. minnie_98214 (4378)   ranked 786 out of 38,129 in life   2 years ago

I agree. My husband is very handy and he will build it himself if he can. It costs a little more then going to a store but not much. But its worth the extra cost because it will last alot longer plus you can make exactly what you want. He made our boys a castle themed bunk bed like no other. And oh is it ever huge and sturdy.


myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (11587)   ranked 224 out of 38,129 in life  2 years ago

Oh I would love to see a photo of the bunk bed...it really does sound very unique..has he ever thought of making ones for sale??


myLot reputation of 95/100. minnie_98214 (4378)   ranked 786 out of 38,129 in life  2 years ago

Ask and ye shall receive. He is currently trying to sell this one but it is not a small bed some people dont like that. If he had time he would try and sell his woodworkings but he doesnt have time to market it. But he can make just about anything its great.

 

myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (11587)   ranked 224 out of 38,129 in life  2 years ago

Wow that's fantastic minnie...how long did it take him to make that anyway? And he had to then stain it and varnish as well, right?


myLot reputation of 95/100. minnie_98214 (4378)   ranked 786 out of 38,129 in life  2 years ago

It took us about two days to finish it. It wasnt to hard just the small details took him along time as he doesnt have the right tools he carved the details all by hand. He is very creative. I saw a pile of wood and was like yeah right but it turned out great.

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