Bubbas Out And About?

I totally understand what you mean.
I was actually thinking after I posted that I should have mentioned that it can be kind of unfair to take your kids along, I mean I've been to Gilbert and Sullivan productions where people have brought toddlers, and I wonder what they expect of them.
It often seems like some cruel and unusual punishment=P

Thanks for responding, and many a happy outing, both with and without your daughter=D

Mal.

time for me to start folding clothes. I guess I'll be back tomm or maybe while he's in the shower. I'm now a World of Warcraft widow!

I don't have children, but I know that my parents never did either.
Although we were well-behaved even when we were young, my sister and I, but that's beside the point.

The thing I can't fathom is that they brought their child out at a time I would assume that he/she would normally be in bed, considering the show starts at 8.30pm, so why bring out an over-tired, over-active and not really welcome child is what I want to know.
Day time I could understand, but surely babysitters aren't so few and far between?

=)
Thanks for your response, Joyce!

That's how I feel - I mean I'm not anti-kids, I love seeing them out, in parks, shopping centres etc, where they can run around and be cute, but screaming children in non-children-friendly environments is where it gets a bit out of hand.
I think that most parents feel the same, actually, except if someone complains about their own child/ren=P
Although my mum and dad have always agreed if/when I was being a brat=P

It's so awesome that your kids get the kitchen tour, I'd love that kind of treatment!
=D

We also go to family friendly restaraunts - its the only way we'd get to go out to eat. There are also museums, planetariums - the Aquarium and zoo.

Here in the states kids aren't allowed at bars. How would you get them home anyway if you've been drinking. Kids and drinking don't really mix anyway. I think in places like England and Australia the pubs are more social and people don't go to get stupid drunk or pick people up though.


I've heard baby's fall alseep in theatres but I wouldn't risk it! I'll just watch it on our cable movies on demand!

Hi artemis! Now I could spend all day in aquariums. I think I enjoy them more than the kids! I took my eldest to one for this birthday treat along with a couple of his mates, and they loved it.

It's been years since I went to a planetarium, but I loved that too. We went to the London Planetarium and it was just amazing.

Now I had to step in and correct you about your perception of bars!!!:-) I'm sorry to say that in the UK there is a terrible and growing culture of going to a bar with the express aim of getting drunk and it's a growing problem. there are still nice pubs about, but I would hesitate to say that kids are welcome in the majority.

When I was writing my original comment, I was referring to elsewhere in Europe, where thankfully traditional bars are still a great place for every member of the family to meet, where coffee is available, and noone calls you a lightweight if you stop after one beer or choose a 7-Up! And of course the answer to getting your kids home after you've been to a bar is not to to drink whilst you're there;-)

How difficult is it to find a sitter where you live - in general and depending on the age/number of children?
It's difficult where I live even to get a sitter for kids 5-10, as my boyfriend and I often become sitters for his mum when she wants to go out - she has a 7 and 9 year old.
But you'd think it would be easier to find someone willing to look after less dependent children... who knows...

I feel the same way as you: if they can't sit through a show or movie at home, what makes parents think that they'll be able to do so outside, especially when they're too young to have reactions to the movie/plot.

Thanks for your response!
=D

It would be in their interests to have some sort of rules on young children at certain events/time-slots, just like television switches into "mature" viewings after a certain time in the night.
A lot of venues seem to kick themselves in the butt, though, because they often offer free tickets to children under 5, so even if the parent knows that it's not appropriate for their children, or that their child can't behave, they take them long because it's cheaper than getting a sitter, you know?
Although I'm just guessing with that one, but it seems plausible.

Food certainly caught my attention when I was a little'n and never let go=P

Thanks for your response!
=D

We have similar under-availability of baby-sitters in my area, although that's not a problem for my boyfriend and I seeing as though we don't have any, but we always end up being the sitters for his siblings, which gets a bit arduous at times.
Especially seeing as though we don't get paid=P Lol, without us, a professional of some description would have to come in and take over.

It sounds like you have the right attitude and understanding of what is "appropriate" with children, venues, timing etc.
I hope you and your man love watching your little girl grow up!

Thanks for your response!

I don't know exactly what that movie's about, but from what I can remember, it's definitely not appropriate, although I stand by the fact that any night time movie isn't really the best option for small, active children.
No movie is truly that important that the rest of us have to suffer and bite our tongues.

It's one of the many small (and not so small) sacrifices that people make as they go through the different stages of parenthood, I guess=)

Well it definitely deals with adult situations that's for sure. Now a Disney film I can understand taking them too. We took my niece to them at under a year but we did it at a drive-in. She could bounce in her seat or on our laps, make noise, and no one was disturbed. That's the big difference. We took her to an appropriate spot.

Oh I love drive-ins!
My parents used to take my sister and I when we were younger, but we don't have one any more=(

That's exactly right - there is a big difference when it's appropriate, and it enhances the enjoyment for everyone!
=D

Our drive in is gone as well but when it was here we went a lot. It was great and with having a child it made it a lot easier. One didn't have to worry about being disturbed or disturbing others.

So few drive-ins, that's what's wrong with the world=P

I agree. That's when the world started to go down hill. When we started to get rid of drive-ins. We need to bring those back and the family night outs to them and we'd see things going back on track.

=D
Say goodbye to generation gaps, teenage runaways and relationship breakups, and hello to the rebirth of drive-in culture=D

It's a novel idea, I have to say!
We need some way to bring back family values and quality time on a large scale.

It sounds good to me. And if it doesn't work well we at least got our drive-ins back right? That means its a win-win situation.

It certainly is - we should be Presidents, I tell you what.
=D

sounds good to me but I doubt they would let me get in. I would tell far too many people where to shove it and do what I think needs to be done

I'm sure we both would, but that only re-enforces my belief that we'd be the best to date=P
Although I'd technically have to be a "Prime Minister", unless Australia becomes a Republic...

You're probably right that we would be better then most who are running. You go for Prime Minister and me for president. Then once in office we can reshape the world by taking a few steps back

Sounds like a plan, M'dear!
Politics will have less to do with politics and more to do with fun=)

Parliament House, here I come!
*giggle*

Problem comes in getting everyone else to hear our ideas and then vote for us. The voting I'm not as worried about it's getting our message out there. It's costs more then I'll gett off mylot to do

Hmmm... That does pose a slight problem and obstacle in our goal of POLITICAL POWERRRRRRRRRR

Any good at bank-robbing?
(Should we get caught, it can actually work FOR our campaigns, showing the detrimental affects of a lack of drive-ins and large numbers of crying babies at night-time venues - we'll be elected in no time)
=P

Well I'm not too good at bank robbery but maybe we could do forgery or counterfeiting. i agree we could make it work for our campaign. Show how much our society needs to change if the average person has to resort to crime in order to prosper. You know the worst part is I could see it working. Scary huh?

It actually is quite...

"The Average Wo/Man" thing would be on our side.
Maybe someone else will cotton on some time, and we might end up with good leaders, who knows...
I mean, if Arnie can get elected...

It's just too bad Arnie can't run for president. From what I've heard he's done great things for California but since he wasn't born here he can't run for president. oh well.

I could not ever justify spending the money that it costs to go to those types of events with a child too young to behave properly.
That's another great point!
Especially when you consider prices for movie tickets now, that's a tonne of money to pay to be hushing, running after and even removing your child from the venue.
I think staying home if you can't have a sitter is a sensible idea. Very few things are that important to put yourself and your kids (and of course the other people, but they matter less at first=P) through that kind of struggle.

I have to say, a movie date with 2+ 8 year olds screams Bgrade horror movie to me=P

Yeah, day time kids movies are another story - it would be wrong of me or anyone to go there and then to complain about the kids/noise/running about etc, because what do you expect, you know?
=)

To a club?! That's insane! I agree, very selfish and obviously valued a party night more than the safety etc of their son, which is ridiculous.
If it was New Year's, and I had a child that no-one else could look after, I wouldn't go out, plain and simple.
People can get just as drunk, and celebrate a new year just as well in their own homes=P

I know, I don't even know how they can get their son in, I mean don't the club suppose to have rules about kids coming in the club? Maybe they were friends with the owner or maybe bcoz it's new year.,but they are sick.

Yeah, as far as I'm aware clubs and pubs have pretty strict policies on under-age people being on the premises, especially after a certain time, and especially on busy nights like New Year's.
=)

I totally agree - and even with OH&S laws and smoking bans, tiny little people (aka children=P) are way too close to often disgusting carpets.
Icky.

If you place pubbing or clubbing over the importance of your child's safety, welfare and enjoyment, then to me you shouldn't be a parent.
That's not to say that parents can't have fun, but adult fun and adult institutions are no place for the rug rats=P