And this is why my boys aren't potty trained!  |
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It's not a battle between them and the potty, it's not a battle of wills between them and me....it's a battle of wills between me and everybody else!
I hate Pull ups. I have no problem with them for overnight but during the day there is no reason for them. They are just big kid diapers.
Anyway,if I put the boys in pants and undies, 'someone' will comment about them not having a pull up on. Yesterday, no one was home so I put them in long shirts with nothing at all underneath. Both went all morning and part of the afternoon without an accident. I was thinking "see, I do know what I'm doing!" But then 'they' came home again...it didn't take long for them to notice the boys were comando under their shirts...and that is just unacceptable so on went the pull ups and shorts. And naturally, neither would use the potty for the rest of the day!
S/o won't back me up...everyone complains about them not being potty trained but then this is what they do. I don't have a question and no one will listen to me no matter what I say so advice probably won't really help..I just needed to vent because I am tired of having 3 kids in diapers when two are plenty old enough to use the potty! I guess I'll have to start hiding the pull ups...oh wait I tried that and got nagged every 5 minutes about not having any.
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1. shakleelady (130) | 2 years ago | Foxy You are right!! I mothered three boys. Been there, done that. I figure if they're old enough to walk they're old enough to find the bathroom. Let them go naked under their shirts every time you can. And, make them clean up any mess they make---they'll learn. You might have to ignore (or beat up) the rest of the family. All the best, and it really DOES work.
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foxyfire33 (5796) | 2 years ago | Believe me, I would love to ignore (or beat up) the rest of the family! What really gets me is that I have already successfully potty trained 3 children so you'd think they realize I know what I'm doing! Maybe their methods worked with their kids but it's obviously not working with mine and I'm not comfortable with using some of their methods.
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2. kareng (3592) | 2 years ago | Have you tried to find some cute and NEAT big boy undies like Spiderman or some other figure/icon they love? I have found that praise is the only way to go on potty training and the others need to zip their mouth if they can't say something good!
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shakleelady (130) | 2 years ago | Kareng, you might have something there!!! Give them something they won't want to mess up. Let them pick out their own underpants....it could work!!
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kareng (3592) | 2 years ago | It sounds like the big problem is all the negativity! Good luck with getting the rest of the household to cooperate!
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3. Trace86 (3407) | 2 years ago | What would happen if you stopped buying the pullups? Yes "they" might nag you a bit, but these are your children and "they" have no business trying to tell you how to raise them. If "they" want your kids in pullups, "they" can darn well buy them with their own money! The only time "they" should have any input is if what you are doing is putting the kids in danger. I don't think a wet bum constitutes danger.
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foxyfire33 (5796) | 2 years ago | "Nagging" does not really cover it and that's the problem. The last time I said no more and hid the pull ups so we'd still have some for night time, there was a lot of stomping and huffing and a few rude comments...and then she bought a pack since she's "the only one that can bother getting these boys what they need"...ugh! I wanted to smack her, we provide everything they need, it was our choice to not allow them pull ups during the day.
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lisado (982) | 2 years ago | I guess you are a lot more patient than me. I am my children's mother and I decide what is best for them. If family doesn't like it they can kiss my backside. I'm not shy about telling them that, either. Of course, my husband backs me up in this respect, which helps a lot. If your S/O won't back you up, it feels like you against the world. You must have done something right if three made it to potty land without other's interferance. I don't like pullups, either. They're expensive diapers. Kids will have accidents as they train, but underwear are washable so no loss. I don't think kids really see pullups as "big kid" anything. Just a marketing ploy. It's a diaper. Period.
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foxyfire33 (5796) | 2 years ago | The difference was, the older 3 were from my first marriage so these people weren't around and/or didn't want anything to do with them.
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4. ellie333 (6793) | 2 years ago | I would personally make a stand and do it the way you want no matter how much others nag and moan at you. All these special pull up and extra dry type nappies just encourage children to be lazy and not use the potty or the toilet whereas the old ones that got them wet would make them uncomfortable so more likely to want to be out of them early. Clever marketing ploy by nappy manufacturers to sell more eh! If you can put up with the nagging perserve and you will probably find after two weeks you may only have one of the three in nappies or maybe none at all. Ellie:D
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foxyfire33 (5796) | 2 years ago | LOL...if I could get the almost 19 month old trained in two weeks too and be done with diapers for good...wow, I wouldn't know what to do with myself!
It's not even just the nagging, they will just go against me and put the pull ups on themselves. Today I tried again with the bare bottom approach with the older one and he was threatened with a spanking if he didn't get his pants on...yes I was furious but s/o says to just go along because "if we make a big deal about it things will be even worse". Ugh!
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5. cjgrooms (3194) | 2 years ago | Are these YOUR children? Until you stand up and tell everybody else that you have heard enough of their opinions and have wasted all the money on pull-ups that you plan to. you will be going to the school and changing their pull-ups when they are in first grade. I know you don't want advice but this can't be good for your children! Potty training is a significant building block to learning other things.
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foxyfire33 (5796) | 2 years ago | The whole living arrangement isn't good for them but I can't seem to get anyone else to see that. "changing their pull-ups when they are in first grade" You are a lot closer with that statement than you may realize...the older of the two will be starting kindergarten in a few months.
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6. Katesmama (3223) | 2 years ago | I feel for ya Foxy. I'm trying to start potty training with my Kate, and I don't thinkits going to be pretty.
Here is a tip I got from a mommy site. It works for those kids that don't like feeling wet or messy. Put a paper towel in a regular diaper. A regular diaper is designed to take away the wetness, and the paper towel will make the wetness stick. In doing this, its the same effect as the pull ups, because the pull ups let them feel wet.
Don't know if that will help you, but I hope so.
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| opinions (5) | 2 years ago | Just wondering who 'they' are.... and why they are so interested in the potty training issue anyways... sounds like they are trying a control tactic on you, and this is where it is at. What is in it for them? By the way, I had boys too, but I used cloth diapers, and that seemed to let them know when it was time. Also, the nerve endings to the bladder and the rectum are the last to grow and connect, and in boys, that is anywhere from 2 1/2 yrs to 4 yrs. MY other thoughts were, I'm sure with three other kids, you probably have a potty chair, but are they comfortable with it? My one son was afraid of it because it would slide on him. My other son didn't like the location, and my grandson was afraid of the big one! So a stepstool was in order for him.. anyway, good luck, and stick to your own instincts! PS if it isn't the potty training, what else will "they" have a issue with?
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foxyfire33 (5796) | 2 years ago | I'll definitely remember that trick when the little guy gets ready to train. Maybe I can get him done quickly before anyone interferes.
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foxyfire33 (5796) | 2 years ago | opinions- first it's better to use the "respond to this discussion" button than the "add comment" button. You'll get your very own space and you'll be notified when someone comments.
'They' are the inlaws. We live with them...against my wishes. They seem to disagree with everything I do and undermine me every chance they get.
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7. OreoCookie3 (18777) | 2 years ago | I think you should set a boundary between 'them' and you and even if your s/o doesn't back you up, I think I would stand up and say that you are the mother and tell them they won't get trained as long as you put 'diapers' on them. I would let them know right quick that they were the ones holding my child back. I think you really need to assert yourself into this situation and tell those people where to get off. And if s/o doesn't like it, you can tell him he should have handled it but didn't so you did.
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foxyfire33 (5796) | 2 years ago | Asserting myself is not my strong suit Oreo...at least not with these people. I don't need to tell you that s/o would rather just put up with it than do anything. There was definitely a last straw moment tonight...if 'she' goes through with a suggestion she made, the gloves will come off and 'they' may not so much as see these boys for a long time.
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8. beautyqueen26 (9134) | 2 years ago | I hate to tattle tale on my little girl. But, when she was just about two or three years old,when we were potty training her, if I put her in a diaper at all, she refused to use the toilet. She would literally use the diaper, even if she were fully awake.
We had to simply forgo potty training pants and Pull ups and diapers of all kinds for the daytime. Otherwise she refused to use the bathroom. They get confused and think they're supposed to go in those Pull ups. I don't know why more people don't see that.
Part of learning self control for the bladder is to be able to wear big kid under pants and underwear and regular clothes. And, the sooner the child starts the learning process, the easier it will be. That's what I found with mine. I didn't rush her. But, when she was ready, she let me know, that she didn't want to wear diapers anymore. And, that's when we began. But, it took well over a year to perfect the no-diaper process.
You're right about Pull ups, being just big kid diapers. Some women use them for their kids, cause they're afraid of getting pee on the carpet. But, we have stone tile floors, so it wasn't an issue for us.
You're doing the right thing. That technique worked for me, too. Now, mine is 100% potty trained for both day and night. My secret for night time potty training was to cut out the bottle at an early age. And, also cut out liquids within one hour of bedtime. And, if needed, then only one sip of water. And, mine goes to the bathroom at least twice before bedtime. Hope those tips help.
You are doing a super job on your own. Please don't let anyone else tell you otherwise. Trust your own best judgement.
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foxyfire33 (5796) | 2 years ago | I trust my judgement and it worked just fine for my 3 older kids. It's everybody else that will not trust my judgement and feels the need to butt in. They are both capable of going potty...but they don't see a need to when everyone else keeps putting them in Pull ups.
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9. CoffeeAnyone (1697) | 2 years ago | Foxy the problem isn't with you per say it is with the rest of your family. On the other hand who is the rest of the family that they hold power over you on how you raise your kids or train them to go to the bathroom or anything else for that matter. That would be the day someone tell me how to raise my kids without an invitation to do so. If your kids can walk run and play they can most certainly find there way to a bathroom and do their business. Recently on one of those awareness news stories they were saying in is only children in America that stay in diapers for longer then a year. For me raising my kids I like them trained within a year but if not for sure they would not be reaching their second birthday wearing a diaper. I have no problem with the pull ups at bed time in case of accident but they were taught to wake me up if that were possible. I do realize some kids don't know or can't catch themselves in their deep sleep. Sore subject for me. Get a load of the girl from Sabrina the teenage witch... her son is over three years old and she has a show now on the net about potty training. If you ask me they should have someone who is working on training their kid long before that to do the show.
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foxyfire33 (5796) | 2 years ago | "who is the rest of the family that they hold power over you on how you raise your kids"
There isn't enough time to explain who these people think they are. You know that saying about "too many chiefs, not enough Indians (Native Americans)"? It's like that...only they decide who is allowed to be a chief and we are not allowed to be.
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CoffeeAnyone (1697) | 2 years ago | Is it time to move? I know sometimes this isn't possible due to the circumstance but gee if you can maybe you should? You are in a really tough spot for sure? Hugs to you!
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10. terri0824 (3510) | 2 years ago | I think pull ups do hinder one being potty trained. And the way you are doing it would be the way I would do it as well. I didn't have any trouble at all with training my oldest daughter. Since she was waking up dry from sleeping and her naps, I started setting her on the potty as soon as she woke up and she was trained by 11 months old. Now I didn't have the same success with my youngest daughter and she was about 3 before she was trained. Oh no, 3 in diapers as much as they cost. I was glad that I never even had two in diapers at the same time.
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foxyfire33 (5796) | 2 years ago | And rumor has it they are supposed to start costing even more. If the fuel surcharges being snuck into everything aren't bad enough the Dow company is raising something 20% so it's expected that products that use things from them (diapers and laudry detergent being the main items) will also increase 20% (or more). It's getting ridiculous and I can't even save a little by using store brands because the two younger ones have sensitive skin and break out if I use anything besides Huggies and Luvs.
I don't know how people train little ones but I have to admit, it would be funny if I secretly got the almost 19 month old trained my way before the older two were trained with everyone else's method.
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