"I Never Really Loved America Until I Was Deprived of Her Company"...  |
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| Who do you suppose said these lovely words, not once, not twice, but at least three times? It was none other than Senator John McCain! I'm not posting this in criticism of McCain's words, not in the least; in fact, I think I can understand where he's coming from in them, as much as someone who was never even remotely close to experiencing what he experienced as a POW. I DO have a problem with the wife of the man who said those words over and over again being on the attack against Michelle Obama for what she said ONE time ("...the first time I'm proud of my country") and of which she has repeatedly explained her meaning. It looks like the gloves are going to come off between the potential First Ladies, at least where Cindy McCain is concerned! What do you think about this budding "cat fight" Cindy seems to want to pick and do you think it's wise of her? Annie | | | | | |
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1. OreoCookie3 (22470)
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4 years ago
| | I think if they can't think of anything better to do with their time they can make a spectacle of themselves if they want to.. the whole world is watching and laughing at the US... just SOSDD. | | | | | | |
anniepa (11669)
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4 years ago
| | You're sure right about the world watching and laughing at us! I'm going to show my ignorance here - what does "SOSDD" mean? Annie | | | |
OreoCookie3 (22470)
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4 years ago
| | Annie, I thought everyone knew SOSDD is "same old Sh*t different day." | | | |
MoonlightSerenade (998)
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4 years ago
| | REally? I thought it meant "save our ship, dumb dodos!" | | | |
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2. spalladino (11857)
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4 years ago
| | No, it's not wise for the two potential first ladies to be engaging in a war of words directed at each other. This election is supposed to be about the issues so, if they want to campaign for their husbands, they need to stick to that otherwise they devalue their contributions. | | | | | | |
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3. ZephyrSun (3727)
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4 years ago
| | I think it is very interesting to say the least. I personally would not want to go against Michelle since she looks like she can handle herself. I believe that this is the first time I can remember the potential first ladies have joined in the mud slinging and bashing. I really hope that it doesn't continue because I live in one of the swing states and that would mean that television would become unbearable. I honestly feel that when Michelle has had enough she will end up shutting Cindy up. | | | | | | |
anniepa (11669)
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4 years ago
| | I think you may be right. So far Michelle has had more restraint than I think I would, being accused of being unpatriotic and anti-American. I would think, given Cindy McCain's checkered past, she would be more careful about attacking her competition. Annie | | | |
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4. bfarrier1 (1447)
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4 years ago
| | I think that they need to quit fighting and nit picking each other that is not politics.They see how much dirt they can dig up to tell the press,I am already tired of it and we have until Nov. to put up with it.My Own Opinion is neither one is going to be a good president and I am thinking strongly on just not voting,and why are the wives getting so involved that they need to slander each other.Ok I am quitting because I could go on and on.You have a great night. | | | | | | |
anniepa (11669)
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4 years ago
| | I really haven't seen Michelle say anything against Cindy. That may well change before it's all over, but so far I haven't heard anything. Annie | | | |
beautyqueen26 (34377)
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4 years ago
| | I hear you! It's hard to know who is right in this election. Give me someone to believe in, at least in politics. | | | |
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5. MoonlightSerenade (998)
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4 years ago
| | I don't think it's wise. Everyone is going to use language they'll be picked on for unless they stick to issues. Someone will provoke someone and end up saying something much worse, because that's how it goes when people are attacked and defensive. I'm getting an ulcer just from seeing tripe at myLot. The latest is Obama beats his wife. Because some yay-hoo is posting quotes out of context from Obama's books. One is talking about his father and disillusionment and fear of becoming like him. Another was about protecting Muslims following 9/11 from unprovoked attacks and their fear of internment. But they edited out everything but something about being on the Muslim's side. I keep trying to tell myself these are only a few people, but you can not let these things go unaddressed. | | | | | | |
anniepa (11669)
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4 years ago
| | I keep telling myself these are only a few people too but it seems like the numbers are growing. Somehow I missed the wife-beater story! Annie | | | |
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6. HouseKat (725)
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4 years ago
| | The problem I have with people using Michelle Obama's quote as target practice is the same problem I have with all the misrepresentation of the Obama's. If people bothered to do a little research they would know that the clip of her quote is totally out of context. She said is twice, slightly different both times, but hardly in the context that people have made it sound. Here are the entire quotes: "For the first time in my adult life I am proud of my country because it feels like hope is finally making a comeback." -M. Obama in Milwaukee, Wisconsin "For the first time in my adult lifetime, I'm really proud of my country, and not just because Barack has done well, but because I think people are hungry for change." -M. Obama in Madison, Wisconsin | | | | | | |
Taskr36 (6782)
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4 years ago
| | I honestly don't see how the added words change the underlying meaning of what she said. This is the first time in her adult lifetime that she's been proud of her country. The reason that she's now proud of her country is irrelevant in my opinion and does nothing to change the meaning of what's been quoted. | | | |
HouseKat (725)
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4 years ago
| | The "underlying meaning" according to who? You? Her? Rush Limbaugh? Who's "underlying meaning" are you taking into consideration. | | | |
MoonlightSerenade (998)
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4 years ago
| | Quoting out of context and then dismissing a fact is becoming a favorite of some people's. They are mindreaders but at the same time poor on reading/comprehension skills. | | | |
Angelwhispers (4603)
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4 years ago
| | If I might add here that I think it is quite possible to love something with passion yet not have extraordinary pride until you see the fruits of that passion develop. I believe that is what she is saying when she said those 2 quotes. I agree with HouseKat on this one. :))) yes HouseKat I can be agreeable :)) Whose opinion are you basing yours on? It certainly is not Michelle Obama's opinions. | | | |
anniepa (11669)
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4 years ago
| | I can assure everyone that although I've made no secret about not being a fan of the current Administration and its policies I love my country and I know it's the greatest country in the world. That doesn't mean I blindly accept and approve of everything it does. I've never stopped loving my country in my entire life but there have been times when I haven't felt particularly proud in different ways. If anyone has a problem with that, I sure don't know what to tell you! Annie | | | |
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Angelwhispers (4603)
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4 years ago
| | Nope one head buttin does not a goat make of me :))) That debate is over and I am ready for the next one LMAO.... No problems to clear up HouseKat :))) | | | |
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7. Angelwhispers (4603)
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4 years ago
| | It is sad Annie, but it is pretty typical of women is it not? We see it on the lot here all of the time. Women attacking other woman for minor infractions to raise themselves up above. To feel superior in nature by shedding light on the flaws of another mother, woman, wife and country woman? I hate that it happens but it does. I expect this race to get quite nasty once again. | | | | | | |
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8. skinnychick (3313)
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4 years ago
| | It's not in her husbands best interest to pick. A first lady should be classy and above that. She just isn't. It's just another strike against Mccain. They seem to be adding up pretty quick.Good for the Obama camp if theyrise above it which I'm sure they will. | | | | | | |
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9. ParaTed2k (6358)
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4 years ago
| | Let's look at both statements in context here. Michelle Obama woman who said "For the first time in my adult life, I am really proud of my country because it feels like hope is finally making a comeback." Why is she finally proud of her country? Because her husband gets to run for president. As you pointed out, McCain was a prisoner of war who realized he had been taking his country for granted his whole life. True, McCain is admitting that he was a spoiled brat, but then again, so is Michelle Obama (although she doesn't seem so quick to admit it). I'll tell you, I took a lot of things for granted about the US before I watched the coast of Delaware disappear in the horizon (not knowing when, or if I'd get to see the scene in reverse). I'm glad to say that I didn't take the USA for granted to the point that I wasn't proud of her, but I see that kind of immaturity among Americans all the time. There's my answer, but keep in mind that I'm not defending McCain at all. I think he's a wimp who retired his spine with his Navy ditty bag. He plays to the press every chance he gets. Like Hillary, he must be aching from the whiplash suffered by the press turning on him so quickly. It must be horrifying to go from media darling to villain like that. I think the only person to suffer a quicker yanking of the kid glove carpet was Cindy Whatsitsname... but well, she was the invention of the press so I guess the patent owner has the right to decide what to do with their own creation. | | | | | | |
ElaanR2 (170)
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4 years ago
| | "For the first time in my adult life I am REALLY proud of my country...' Couldn't she have also said, 'For the first time in my adult life I'm beginning to love(instead of being proud) my country'? Patriotism is love of country, not being proud of country. If you say that you've always been proud of your country, then you were also proud of your country in the times when the whole world heard that your president had sexual relations with an intern and lied about it. Were you? If you cannot tell a person you love that you're not proud of some of the things they do, then you don't love them at all. | | | |
ParaTed2k (6358)
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4 years ago
| | Yes, I was proud of my country through that... the President isn't the country. But I do get your point. I'm not proud of everything done by my country, but that doesn't mean I don't love her. | | | |
anniepa (11669)
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4 years ago
| | "True, McCain is admitting that he was a spoiled brat, but then again, so is Michelle Obama (although she doesn't seem so quick to admit it)." I'm not sure where you'd get that Michelle was a "spoiled brat". She was raised on the south side of Chicago and comes from a working class family, nothing even close to the silver spoon McCain was born with. I really don't mean that as a criticism or attack because none of us choose who or what type of household we're born into. "But I do get your point. I'm not proud of everything done by my country, but that doesn't mean I don't love her." My thoughts EXACTLY although you and I may disagree on what times we haven't been proud of things our country has done I think we agree completely that we love her unconditionally. I did "get" what Michelle was getting at from the beginning, though and I don't doubt for one second that both candidates and both spouses love America. Annie | | | |
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10. Bluepatch (2486)
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4 years ago
| | I'm not an American but basically you don't ever say you don't love the country you're campaigning for no matter what the context. He is obviously not saying he doesn't love his country but in a national publicity campaign that is a big faux pas. | | | | | | |
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