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I know this might seem like an odd question from me. Surely after 6 kids I should know how and when to feed them. But apparently I don't. See I always thought that their little stomachs could not hold much and that it was much healthier to feed them 5 or so smaller meals rather than 3 big meals a day. I also thought that it wasn't necessary to include all the food groups in each meal provided their daily requirements were met by the end of the day...or at least when averaged out over several days. Apparently though, I am wrong about that. My feeding schedule is what is causing my 5 year old to still poop in his pants and is also why the 3 year old is not trained yet either. If they ate 3 times a dy only they would poop regularly once a day and there would be no more accidents. Their potty issues have nothing to do with the fact that I am essentially required to put them in pull ups and that they have been disciplined by others for having accidents. It like everything else is my fault some how. So before this turns into an even bigger in-law rant...what feeding schedule do you think is healthiest for children (I'm specifically referring to children age 5 and under)?80
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1. sweetdesign (1509) | 4 weeks ago | I always went with three meals a day with snacks in between with my daughter and with my daycare kids also. Pooping however is an individual thing some kids poop more than once a day others once a day and still others may only poop every other day. It has more to do with what they are eating more than when they are eating. I had one daycare kid who pooped 3-4 times a day some days and only once on other days. But the 5 year old should by now know his body cues and know when he needs to go. You might want to talk to his dr. about that. the three year old is still new to the whole potty thing.
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foxyfire33 (5547) | 4 weeks ago | Suposedly the 5 year old's poop is too soft for him to feel it coming out...this from the MIL who has not changed him in months at least, trust me softness is not the issue. His doctor says his only problem is being prone to constipation...which starts a vicious cyclen -it hurts to go, he holds it, it explodes out, he gets in trouble, he holds it more, he gets constipated, it hurts to go, and on and on.
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sweetdesign (1509) | 4 weeks ago | Knew there had to be a reason for the five year old to still be having accidents. It is a vicious cycle. Your MIL needs to mind her own business and let you raise your kids. My daughter had constipation problems till she was potty trained then it got better but she still had very large very firm movements. Just keep encouraging him to go. You might want to add more fruit to his diet, more juices, and if he likes them prunes gradually though so you don't get the opposite problem. My daughter loved prunes so i had to watch he and make sure she didn't eat too many of them.
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2. Hatley (10731) | 4 weeks ago | foxyfire33 hi when my son was little I fed him three times a day and snacks in between and it seemed to work just fine.How come your little ones are being disciplined by others fo having accidents. thosethings are unavoidable and no child should be disciplined for that.And everything is not your fault. IN-laws should stick their noses out of what is really your own business at leastthats my take on it.
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foxyfire33 (5547) | 4 weeks ago | That is just their stupid method of potty training. When SIL was babysitting the 5 year old was 2 1/2 to 3 1/2. She would tell him if he messed his pants he'd get a spanking. That scared him and caused him to hold it until he couldn't. Now we're left with that whole cycle and it's been hard to break...especially with MIL looking over my shoulder and reinforcing the aunt's methods.
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MSV1313 (1331) | 4 weeks ago | Foxy, baby, you really gotta get away form those people before they can cause any MORE damage to your kids! I think if you got them out of there, you'd be surprised how some of the problems just disappear.
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3. Humbug25 (526) | 4 weeks ago | Hi foxyfire33 It sounds like you are having a hard time and getting some grief from people, please don't blame yourself. I have 3 boys aged 3,5 and 7 and each ones bathroom habits are different. They do normally move their bowels everyday but I don't panic if they don't. My kids usually eat cereal for breakfast, followed by a fruit snack around mid morning, lunch, then a fruit snack late afternoon and later dinner. If they are still hungry after all that I allow them to have some more fruit or a yogurt if they wish. I don't think that your 5 year old pooping his pants has got anything to do with what he eats or why your 3 year old is not trained yet. I don't think you 3 year old is quite ready yet or he is being lazy. I think your 5 year old maybe just not getting to the toilet in time as he is so busy playing. I hope I have been of some help.
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foxyfire33 (5547) | 4 weeks ago | Thanks and you're right, I get a lot of grief from everybody. I explained the 5 year old's issues in the above comments. The three year old is getting close but I haven't been allowed to do what I did with my first three which is why in my opinion the training is taking longer....he does try though, there just isn't a consistent incentive.
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Humbug25 (526) | 4 weeks ago | My youngest turned 3 in March but I got him out of diapers/nappies in the January. He has 2 older brothers so he knew what it was all about and had no excuses apart from being a bit lazy. I put him straight into normal underwear putting him in pull ups of a night, which he hated, then I followed him around for 3 days with a bowl of hot water and disinfectant! I would put him on the toilet and he would say nothing was coming then 5 minutes later would wet himself. Anyway, after 3 days he seemed to figure it out and just started going by himself. I even stopped the pull ups at night time making sure he had nothing to drink an hour before bed time and going to the bathroom was the last thing he did before bed, even if he had been 10 minutes prior to that. All the best
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4. cjgrooms (2520) | 4 weeks ago | Most children don't eat BIG meals. Mine always ate supper with us (still didn't eat a lot at one time) but the rest of the day they had small amounts of healthy foods, they also had a snack before bed. You might want to talk the five year olds problem over with his Dr. My oldest son couldn't drink fruit juice because it always made him have a accident, he is thirteen now and still can't tolerate fruit juice although he doesn't have a problem with the actual fruit, so the problem might just be a certain type of food he is eating.
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foxyfire33 (5547) | 4 weeks ago | We've gone through the fruit juice thing before too. We (well MIL) cut him off and he got so constipated he wound up in the ER. So he's supposed to drink apple juice daily to help with that...now its more of the fear and stubbornesswe have to get him past!
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5. jonesy123 (1249) | 4 weeks ago | In-laws! The always know everything better, don't they. First off, feeding schedules have nothing to do with wetting or pooping in your pants. Nor does proper nutrition. Who came up with that garbage? Although, it's easier for them to poop if they get enough fiber, lol, and certain foods will make it more liquidy and harder for kids to judge whether they just let off gas or something else is coming out. Some kids do have issues with potty-training, and it does take longer. Growth spurts can throw you back to accidents, too. Sometimes there may even be a medical condition. And yes, sometimes it's the way one potty-trains. How are they disciplined for accidents, etc.? Or better rewarded for no-accident days? Who does the disciplining? Why do you feel forced to have the five year old in pull-ups? How can the kid feel uncomfortable that way wanting to bring things away before an accident happens? And who is watching for signs of a need to go potty? I have a seven year old who rather plays until the very last second than go to the potty. She thinks she'll miss something if she doesn't go. We see the signs and send her no matter how much protest we get. And we have always been right, out comes the waterfall or the mountain of poop. Anyhow, many nutritionists recommend five smaller meals throughout the day, even for adults. However, the average kids usually gets breakfast, lunch, and dinner, and two small snacks, one in the morning, one in the afternoon. They have faster metabolisms and work off more energy than the average adult anyway, especially at such a young age, when the stomach indeed doesn't hold large amounts of food. But really, this is the first time I hear somebody relating a kid's potty training accidents with the frequency of meals, lol.
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foxyfire33 (5547) | 4 weeks ago | LOL...it's the first I ever heard it too but it's all she talks about! To answer your questions....they are disciplined with threats of a spanking by SIL or MIL. I praise them for successful potty trips and even attempts. I feel forced because we live with MIL and FIL and they pitch a fit if the boys are not fully clothed and in pull ups.....becausde they think it's horrible to "allow" them to be naked or have accidents in their underwear. I guess we all watch for signs but I'm the only one who will actively take them, the others will take them when they need to go. It sends a mixed message I think... I reinforce their physical signs but everyone else just tries to make them go on cue.
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| 6. mommyathome (85) | 4 weeks ago | I try to feed my son at least three times a day. I say try because he is a very picky eater and will only eats when he wants to. Some days he gets three meals in and other days I am luck if I get him to eat one meal.
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foxyfire33 (5547) | 4 weeks ago | And see there's a totally different struggle I have within this one. The 5 year old is satisfied with 2 pieces of toast. He might get that for a meal and a bowl of noodles for another, apple slices for a "snack", cheese cubes, chopped hot dogs, a dish of green beans...there's a whole list of small meals he prefers. Each on it's own doesn't add up to much but he eats every couple hours and it balances out in the end. MIL thinks that's horrible that he doesn't eat a complete meal all at once...I have tried and he won't, he likes one, maybe two items at a time and no more.
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| mommyathome (85) | 4 weeks ago | I know what you mean about MIL. Mine is the same way....Just remember that you are doing the besy for your child. If he will only eat two items at a time that is fine. It is actually better to eat many smaller meals throughout the day than three large ones anyway.
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7. OreoCookie3 (13015) | 4 weeks ago | For little kids they need to eat 5 or 6 times a day because their tummies don't hold that much. Can you imagine making a little one wait until suppertime? They will eat but then be hungry again before bed. I think feeding them breakfast, snack, lunch, snack, supper, snack is the best way... and those snacks could be fruits, veggies or anything healthy. Kids do sometimes poop more than once a day, and there is nothing wrong with that... the thing is to help them know when they have to go to the potty. I think the pull ups just tell the kid it is okay to use it as a diaper... I put my child in training pants made of cloth when she was training and she caught on quickly because she didn't want to wet or poop in her panties. Also I don't think it is good to scold little ones about pooping in their panties.. they get confused I think with the diaper like pullup.
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foxyfire33 (5547) | 4 weeks ago | Thanks Oreo, you feel the way I do about it. It's funny how I never had trouble using this method with my older kids yet they seem to think I don't know what I'm talking about with the three little ones. The 5 year old has had jeans on (his favorites that unsnap up the legs) with nothing else underneath and has not had a single accident all day.?They'll be home soon so I'm just trying to stretch the successes out as long as I can...maybe they won't notice at all.
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MSV1313 (1331) | 4 weeks ago | You sound like a GREAT mom to me! The friends you lost over it probably weren't very good friends to begin with if they bailed becasue YOU wanted to raise YOUR children in the manner you saw fit. A REAL friend would respect that.
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foxyfire33 (5547) | 4 weeks ago | If I wasn't stuck living here I would absolutely follow your example! I have told s/o many times that his parents will be lucky to ever see the kids if we get out of here. They have no faith in me what so ever despite the fact that I did just fine with the older kids.
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freedomg (519) | 4 weeks ago | I am so sorry sweety. I didn't know you were living with them. That is something that you guys will need to try and change (I say this knowing you probably already doing all you can to fix it). What state do you live in? I ask because here in Florida there are programs designed to help people get out on their own. Try calling 211 and tell them the whole story you would be amazed at the help is out there. The sort of stress that comes from living the way you are is not going to be healthy for any of you guys. I'll keep you in my prayers and if you ever need to blow up send me a pm. I've lived with my in law before so I feel what you are going through. You'll be o.k. though.
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freedomg (519) | 4 weeks ago | MSV1313, Thanks for the comment it was very sweet of you . I don't know if I'm a great mom but I try my best and i guess that's all we can do. As for the friends I lost, most of them weren't really anything to cry over but there are a few I miss. Not enough though to let the things they would do or say slide. Oh well that's life.
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9. ellie333 (4314) | 4 weeks ago | Hi Foxyfire, My son is four and I like to make sure he has breakfast lunch and dinner but some days all he'll want to eat is fruit and drinks plenty, other days he will non stop eating from the moment he gets up til when he goes to bed. For example today he didn't want breakfast and had a drink instead then about 10 he asked if he could have a ham sandwich, he had an apple and half a banana before going to school at twelve, a fruit snack and glass of milk at school and then when he came home meatballs, potatoes and green beans which he munched his way through but yesterday other than a few mouthfuls of cereal and a sandwich and fruit at lunch he just picked at his evening meal. Kids will eat when they are hungry especially at that age. My son does go once a day though and we have no accidents. I think if the in laws stepped back and let you get on with being a mum they would be fine and completely accident free by now. I used to let mine run around without anything on when I was training and left potties in different rooms until he got used to knowing when he needed to go and now he just runs upstairs to the toilet. Good luck with this one. We all parent different, whatever works do it. Ellie:D
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foxyfire33 (5547) | 4 weeks ago | I definitely prefer to let them run around bare bottomed...it worked with the others and they were all trained by this age. It's like MIL doesn't believe I feed them right or that I just let them snack all day...she's said as much. The thing is she's not home all day except on weekends...and then she takes over the whole house which throws off whatever schedule I have established.
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10. GardenGerty (13063) | 4 weeks ago | No, they poop when they poop, regardless of when you feed them, and I figure that a wide variety of foods offered in small portions, several times a day is just fine. Go ahead and feed them "Breakfast, lunch and dinner" Call the other two meals snacks. Tell the inlaws to butt out. If the poop theory held true, then I would only poop once a day, at the same time every day. You need your own place, my dear.
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foxyfire33 (5547) | 4 weeks ago | Your last line really sums it all up! Thanks for the support!
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