A moment of sick satisfaction

Yeah, but I bet you didn't do a "happy dance", safe in the knowledge that they'd left an 11-year-old son behind did you?

Hehe... 'served the (expletive deleted) right'... yeah, that sounds about what I'd say. It's not like you can inflict any damage if they're already dead, and most people don't go and hire some sort of aircraft with a sign painted on it saying what I just wrote here lol.

When we don't forgive, we imprison ourselves

wow I whole-heartedly disagree with that statement...Forgiving is NOT necessary and when we DONT forgive someone for somehting that theyve done horribly wrong to us it DOESNT imprison us at all..There are ppl in my past that i'll NEVER forgive and when they die I'll throw a party, laugh my butt off and dance and spit on their grave! Why? because they deserve it....Am I imprisoned becuase i won't, havent and never will forgive? NOPE..not in the slightest

You are wrong..God said we must forgive and when Jesus was asked how many times we must forgive..He answered.. SEVENTY TIMES SEVEN..

Ravenladyj, we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. The Bible does tell us that we must forgive. God forgives us for everything, and if we're striving to be more like Him, we have to follow in His footsteps.

But even for those who follow no faith, forgiving is freeing. If you've never experienced that freedom, you cannot know the feeling.

I have had more things to hate or hold grudges about in my 56 years than any person should. I won't go into them all here. But I guarantee you that I could not be the person I am today if I chose to hate and not forgive.

I've seen people who choose bitterness, and I am glad that I have never been that way. I choose to forgive. That doesn't mean I'll ever be friends with someone who has treated me horribly. I don't have to go that far. I don't even have to tell anyone I've forgiven him/her. But I'll know in my heart, and I can rise above the pain and not let that person or that incident control me.

I have to respectfully disagree. Forgiving is not always the best policy. If somebody has wronged you and continued to wrong you, and delights in making you miserable and NEVER changes their ways or admits to having done wrong or made a mistake, then in my opinion they are not deserving of being forgiven.

People who just forgive indiscriminately are known as doormats. They are known as people who think everybody is better and more deserving than they are. They tend to see the world as a series of mistakes they have yet to make and mistakes they have already made, and they believe they will never get ahead, people aren't going to like them anyway, and it's better just to let everything go than to ever stick up for yourself, stand your ground, or cause another person consequences for rotten behavior.

Forgiving is a good thing - as long as the person you are forgiving is not laughing in your face thinking 'ha, I got away with screwing them once, can't wait to do it again'. You really have to be careful when dealing with some people. Before you think that I am being mean and cynical, this has been learned from doing both - forgiving because 'you're supposed to' and forgiving when it is actually deserved. I don't do things 'just because you're supposed to'. I have a clear reason and motivation whether I do or don't.

Hey Feathers! - you said that You are wrong..God said we must forgive and when Jesus was asked how many times we must forgive..He answered.. SEVENTY TIMES SEVEN..

But don't married people take that vow for "better or worse". If the Bible said that we need to forgive, where does it say it's okay to commit adultery? Just below this response you JUSTIFIED his ADULTERY. What part of the Bible are you reading? Or do you only take bits and pieces from here to there to justify your own ranting?

Again, you either are a Christain or you're not. How can you say to forgive a person when you condon one of the sins against the Ten Commandments?

I am very firm with my kids (and within myself) about tossing out the word "hate"...they arent allowed to say it UNLESS they TRULY DO hate that person which at their ages IMO isnt going to happen if they were to serious thing abut the situation, person etc etc...Hate is a VERY strong word and should never be just thrown to the wind like that by any means..BUT that doesnt mean that there arnt ppl in my life that I've not hated..hell there are ppl in my life that I'll hate with an intense passion til the day I drop dead..

Well, I would rather not have a heart full of hate when I die.

OMG...this is funny. I've wished similar things on my ex.

tess i know what you are saying.. anytime i take joy in karma working in my favor im wondering if i am setting it up to kick me in the butt later haha

Isn't that funny that we think this way? Geez it's kind of funny I think but I know God wouldn't appreciate it. My husband used to cheat on me and I remember telling him when he left me "I hope God gives you girls when you have children so you will understand how you treated me!" Later on I found out he had two girls and he got a vasectomy. I wonder if he remembered my words.

Ohhh.. there were times when I wished an asteroid would land on my ex-husband's place of employment. But then, I guess I couldn't wish for that, all the poor innocent people eating dinner there! Oh well. I can hope instead that he drives thru the garage door on accident. Actually I haven't talked to him in more than a couple years, I am hoping maybe he got remarried. I only felt that way about him back when I was afraid he was going to beat me and seal me up in a wall. This thread is making me think of all sorts of things I haven't thought about for 6 years.

You are very wise about grudges. I think Foxy will turn it loose. She does not need anymore baggage.

Why are you blaming the woman for foxy,s break=up? Talk to the husband..and find out why
By the way foxy..what is his phone number and email. »I would love to hear his side of the story why HE HAD TO FIND EMOTIONAL SOLANCE with another woman and especially the tramp you make her out to be..a real tramp..so what does that say about you if he left a to be with such a bad person as you make her out to be?

Angelia, you are 100% right!!

Dancing, you are sitting here quoting the bible, and making it sound that everything is foxy's fault. Lemme ask you something isn't it against one of God's commandments to commit adultry? So if that is the case, who is to say that this woman hasn't done the same to other people and this is God's punishment for her? You are being so quick to condem her. If you can quote the bbile so well, then why are you not condemming the other 2 parties for commiting the adultry? "Judge not lest you be judged" You keep saying that it is God's place to comdem and God says that we should forgive, so why are you going against your own words in condemming Foxy?


"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"

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HE HAD TO FIND EMOTIONAL SOLANCE with another woman

I think a person that so quote the Bible or understands is knows that marriage vows are between God and the couple when they marry. He broke that vow - for better or worse - and here you are saying that he was justified in commiting adultery all for the sake of he had to find "comfort" in another woman? Do you believe in the Bible or don't you?

Sounds like you're talking sideways out of our mouth because it doesn't make much sense to me - or anyone else here for that matter.