If an ATHEIST tells you "There is no God!"

HAHA LOL! With a tongue huh!?! Funny!

Why don't you say the name God, instead of G-d!?!

Old habit from before Internet days. I'm religious.

According to my religion you are supposed to treat the name of G-d with reference. This includes the written name.

Of course this forum is in English and it really only applies to Hebrew, and on the Internet nothing is really there unless it's printed out. ...complicated physics of how the Internet actually works. Yes scholars have actually studied the nature of the written word on the Internet from a religious perspective.

The possibility of someone printing something I wrote on the Net goes back to me having no control of what someone might do after they print it out; line their birdcage? use it for toilet paper? Ok It's in English, but it's still disrespectful.

On forums in Hebrew people replace the H with a K to prevent desecration of the name of God.

I think I'm beginning to learn something new here.
Pls. educate me further more.
What is the connection of the internet towards typing the name G-d or God?

The easiest way to explain my views is to give you a link. This web site is a from a very liberal stream of Judaism. Their explanation is about as simple as it can get. You might not understand many of the terms and references, but I'm sure you can get the general idea.

http://urj.org/ask/god_questions/

I love this quote. And I admire C.S. Lewis.
I saw an interview from the television once regarding the recent Chronicles of Narnia movie. The director said that the movie was written and was dedicated to Jesus Christ.

It does makes sense! Thanks for sharing your views.

dazzlez. I kinda doubt an atheist would do that. LOL, kidding!

1.) I didn't say that the air is God. Yes you can feel air but can you see it?
Believers feel God through faith. It's like saying you feel the air through breathing. Or you feel gravity when you jump. By the way, gravity is imaginary - it's just a scientific term in order to justify the falling of objects.

2.) The Big Bang!?!

3.) Colors were always there? How do you know? Whereas scientists say that before the Big Bang occurred, there was nothing. Even though scientists wouldn't say that, you can assume that it is true. If an accident did occurred in the midst of darkness, then how can an accident or an explosion produce colors?

Believers might be able to "feel God through their faith." But non believers do not rely on faith. They question and demand proof. I did the same with my previous religion, Christianity. I asked questions, I wanted to know the truth, I read a lot, and as a result of it, I discarded the Islamic, Christian, and Judaic versions of God. When someone tells me that he/she "feels God through faith," I just shrug and say, "Yep, but that's you, not me!!" I don't feel any God, but I do feel air. So air is more real to me than God. So is gravity, even though it is just a scientific "term" to explain the falling back of things to earth. If I jump I know I will fall back to earth. So that's more true to me than God.


As for the Big Bang, I don't know what that has got to do with God. It is just scientists trying to explain the beginning of the world.

Colors were always there for me. I know this because I have been seeing colors ever since I learned to see and comprehend colors. Whether they existed from the beginning of existence is not my concern. However, since I see them, they are true for me. A scientist is better qualified than me to answer your last question.

And I still don't see what all this has got to do with God. As an agnostic, I am open to all ideas and views. They are interesting, but still they are ideas and views, and I prefer real life experiences. And so far, I have not experienced God as explained by the world's popular monotheistic religions.:)

I couldn't say it better than this

It's true! But as a human being, a living organism, you have the ability to design and create things. Even a child can design things if you lend him a set of crayons and a coloring book.
It's like saying, if there's a design, then there's gotta be a designer.
As to an invention, there's an inventor.

Obviously, non-living things doesn't have that kind of ability! Only living beings can.

Now I'm not saying that the beauty and uniqueness of everything automatically proves the existence of God. But it creates a thought.

Like I said, if there's a design, there's a designer.
Or a creation, there's a creator.

Now when you say the word designer, creator, inventor, babysitter, driver, carpenter, etc.
It only means that you're referring to a living organism such as human beings!
It's gotta be someone! Not something!

An accident that was caused or is composed by non-living things cannot create something that has an obvious and incredible design, order, and beauty. Not unless if SOMEONE created that something to do such things.

Because in real life, that's how it works right!?!
For example: A robot (a non-living thing) cannot dance, move, or perhaps sing unless someone programs it to do these tasks.
A computer will not work unless someone makes it work.

Now who is that SOMEONE?
I don't really know!
Is it God?
I'm not really sure.

But once again, it's a thought:
There's gotta be someone; not something!


And regarding the Atheist Creed photo, I got that one from a website of a famous atheist named Richard Dawkins.
http://www.richarddawkins.net

Don't worry, I know exactly what atheism means! And I'm not making it sound absurd!
I totally respect atheists. And I'm always open when it comes to their opinions.

I have to agree your reasoning does provoke thought. Probably the most rational discussion I've ever had with a theist, thank you.
You spoke in a way that I can understand, and I promise you I will give it some thought, I still don't think it'll change my belief in a god. But I like your reasoning.
As far as Dawkins, he's entitled to write whatever he wants, it just doesn't fit all atheists. It may fit him but not me. Just as, I'd imagine, you wouldn't want to classified as a group with other believers you may not share a belief with. Either way, it's not an issue and I didn't mean to imply that it was.

Go look up on Google or Wikipedia for "circular reasoning".

You are doing just that.

Stand: "there is a God"

Argument: "if there is no God"

Conclusion "earth and people wouldn't exist"\

The argument and the stand can't be different, see? Otherwise it'll just repeat as a cycle.

The argument and the stand can't be the same*

You could try bringing the discussion further, instead of writing off the atheist as "oh, not another idiot"...

How do you know you might not learn anything new? Makes you a shallow hypocrite, doesn't it?

i am not shallow & i'm sure not a hypocrite & i sure don't want to discuss anything w/you.

I might have been a tad harsh on the comment, but if you're going to be petty like that, fine by me.

Nothing lost but everything to gain for me anyway.

They should have an editing function for posts around here...pretty silly to post extras if someone made a mistake, or needed to add something more.

Why not, I tune down on the bluntness of my first comment to you, offer an apology and this question in a 2-in-1 package instead: why is a person a moron when he boldly says that "there is no God"?

I shan't second-guess you, and feel free to reply or decline.

you are real good at name calling, aren't you. i have a few names that come to mind for you but i want lower myself to your level to do that. i would appreciate no more contact from you. too many nice people to talk to to talk to a jerk like u.