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If an ATHEIST tells you "There is no God!" email this discussion to a friend?

myLot reputation of 86/100. ronreyes (609)   ranked 1,347 out of 38,461 in life1 year ago

What will be your reaction?
And what will you say to him/ her?

This discussion is for everybody to respond to, both atheists and believers.

Obviously, atheists will agree to this statement, so I hope you'll respond with your best atheistic manner. Like a "no-care" type of response.

Same goes with the believers. If you want to justify this with a Bible verse or a Koran verse, that's fine.

Ok, I'll go first.

I'm a believer, and either of these three statements will be my response:

1.) "Right, and there's no air to breathe as well!"
2.) "...and there's no explosion that has the ability to make all things unique!"
3.) "No God? So we all came from nothing? An Accident happened in the midst of darkness? Where does colors came from then?"


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11. myLot reputation of 90/100. tryxiness (3382)   ranked 949 out of 38,461 in life   1 year ago

I guess, I just have to tell the atheist that i believe in something of a higher order.


myLot reputation of 86/100. ronreyes (609)   ranked 1,347 out of 38,461 in life  1 year ago

Higher order?
What does that mean?


myLot reputation of 90/100. tryxiness (3382)   ranked 949 out of 38,461 in life  1 year ago

It's one way of saying I believe in a God or whatever they are called.:)


myLot reputation of 86/100. ronreyes (609)   ranked 1,347 out of 38,461 in life  1 year ago

I see. I prefer to call it higher power. LOL

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12. myLot reputation of 75/100. Arkie69 (1100)   ranked 6,866 out of 38,461 in life   1 year ago

First off it is no ones business what anyone else believes. God Himself gives us the right to believe in Him or not. We should extend the same rights to our fellow man. We are not supposed to be "telling" people there is a God anyway. We are supposed to be "Showing" people there is a God.

When Jesus put His Church in the homes it put man out of the telling business. Gods truth and The church are supposed to be spreading from one home to another. That is exactly the way the Apostles set Jesus' Church up because that's the way He told them to set it up. In Mark chapter 6 verse 10 it tells exactly where Jesus sent the Apostles to do their teaching. It says in a house. In the 10th chapter of Acts God sent peter to the Home of Cornelius. Cornelius invited all of his friends, family and neighbors into his home to hear what Peter had to say and see what he did.

If we were doing this thing the way God and Jesus intended there wouldn't be any question about there being a God or not. People would choose to not follow Him but they would be seeing His work on this earth. It is my place to look after my own personal relationship with God and Jesus and let my fellow man do the same. Any teaching I am supposed to be doing is by setting examples before prople not standing up in some church with only words to offer the people and being paid to do so. This is not what Jesus set up.

The next time someone tells you there is no God or they don't believe in God you need to understand it is your fault as much as anyone elses that this person said that. This is a monkey see monkey do world and all I see is a bunch of monkeys doing a lot of talking and very little doing. I will include myself in that bunch of monkeys.


myLot reputation of 99/100. fjaril (4556)   ranked 23 out of 38,461 in life  1 year ago

wow! Arkie! I like your style and your doctrine.. Even if we are miles away in more ways than one, you have my respect for your expression here today. I wish you every happiness. Thankyou for today!


myLot reputation of 86/100. ronreyes (609)   ranked 1,347 out of 38,461 in life  1 year ago

Very nice response!
I love the second line.
It's true that God gave us freewill to do whatever we want, to believe in whatever we want to believe, and think whatever we want to think.

I respect atheists. In fact, I admire them for being rational. And believers also have the same ability to become rational as well.

I believe that as long we have this ability, the debate on whether God exist or not will become a never-ending discussion between believers and unbelievers.

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13. Criminal197 (1)   ranked 26,318 out of 38,461 in life   1 year ago

If there is something like god Why thers is a luck. And who belives in god believs in luck.And everything is luck Then why are we here. think about it there is no such thing as god...


myLot reputation of 86/100. ronreyes (609)   ranked 1,347 out of 38,461 in life  1 year ago

Why are we here?
- That's a good question. Can you answer it yourself? Can science answer it?

Who believes in God believes in luck?
- I don't think so. Some people may, but I'm not one of them.

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14. myLot reputation of 95/100. Sreekala (1806)   ranked 1,007 out of 38,461 in life   1 year ago

GOD is a faith. If you believe that GOD is there, definitely GOD will be there. So it depends upon your mind. If you trust it very deeply you don't need any sign to feel the same. But to make understands an atheist is a difficult task. You won't be able to give any proof. So let them think their own way. My response is, I believe in GOD.


myLot reputation of 86/100. ronreyes (609)   ranked 1,347 out of 38,461 in life  1 year ago

Good response, but I think you just pissed off that atheist. LOL

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15. myLot reputation of 78/100. punkix (277)   ranked 3,727 out of 38,461 in life   1 year ago

these are the type of people that i do not want to talk to. its a never ending debate if God really exists. but i do, i am a believer. they would say science will explain everyting, but who invented science and its components right?

i probably wont say that much but ill tell him/ her:
"...wait til you die, and youll know."


myLot reputation of 86/100. ronreyes (609)   ranked 1,347 out of 38,461 in life  1 year ago

This is the response I've been waiting for.
I really really love that last line.

I mean if God exist, then He exist!
You'll know it when you die.

But when you die and you realize there's no God, no afterlife, no heaven nor hell, then so be it!
You won't lose anything because first of all, you're already dead and you will never feel the feeling of disappointment anymore.

Read this inspiring quote from Albert Camus:
"I would rather live my life as if there is a God and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't and die to find out there is."

Camus was an unbeliever (according to Wikipedia) but I find this statement very interesting.

For me, death is like the red curtain in a theater. Mysterious, somehow terrifying, but it may reveal something in the end - the overall sum of how you lived your life and your choice on where to belong.

Two thumbs up for your response dude!

 

TheGiant (68)   ranked 6,281 out of 38,461 in life  1 year ago

That's awesome, I was just thinking that the other day! Of course, I totally believe if it wasn't for God, there would not be science. As a Catholic, I believe Faith and Reason completely coexist, heck, The Catholic church has it's own Observatory for God's sake, there are Priests that are scientists too!


myLot reputation of 86/100. ronreyes (609)   ranked 1,347 out of 38,461 in life  1 year ago

TheGiant.
I hope you won't mind.
I just want to ask why Catholics pray the "Hail Mary" over and over again?

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16. myLot reputation of 99/100. fjaril (4556)   ranked 23 out of 38,461 in life   1 year ago

hmmm . interesting creed you dug up there for your image. I wonder if you take it to be the real creed of atheists or if you find it humorous because it helps to make atheists look like idiots? What exactly is a best 'no-care' atheistic manner in which to respond here that you refer to? I don't have the right dictionary to understand what that means exactly.
Now I wonder if you probably have no doubt whatsoever what I am, then, that I cannot respond to the simple question you have posed in the manner you are requesting. Maybe it has more to do with where I am in life or where I live and have lived and who my parents and people and tribes were and over which continents and the religions and tragedies(BECAUSE of religions and their holy wars) to which we have been exposed and our survival and who I am today and what I do with and in my life and what my intellect and education levels are and what the many wonderful AND tragic experiences are and have been that have affected me and my fellow man in more modern times.

Am I free or am I not allowed to be that?
Have we evolved as people or is that impossible?
Are we allowed to close a door and open another?
Are we allowed to search for knowledge and truth( whatever that means) and make decisions without a relentless haunting and taunting that independent thinking outside the believer world evokes?

So.. if an athiest says to me, "There is no God"! I have no reaction. I probably have something else I have to do and don't feel like any kind of confrontation. I will maybe go into the garden or look at the sky and feel at peace.

If a 'believer' as you put it, announces,"God exists"! I am on my guard directly..and at the same time will go about my business, a little unsettled probably, as I am when the topic comes into my face. Good thing we don't go around hunting, torturing, burning or killing atheists anymore, eh?
.. or do we.. in the name of God, I mean, because otherwise it would be wrong.. or?

Life is full of miracles, isn't it? I am pretty sure you are one also. Because you exist. Thanx for your topic.


myLot reputation of 86/100. ronreyes (609)   ranked 1,347 out of 38,461 in life  1 year ago

I got that picture from the website (forum) of a famous atheist named Richard Dawkins.
http://www.richarddawkins.net

Regarding the no-care atheistic manner, well some atheists respect believers, some don't (like this guy):
http://www.youtube.com/user/patcondell
Watch his videos for you to know what I'm talking about.

Killing and torturing in the name of God?
I don't think so! They did that because they want to - out of their own personal interest and freewill.
Now if an atheist kills a person, robs a bank, or kidnaps a child and ask for a ransom, obviously he did that because that's what he wants and not for the sake of God.


myLot reputation of 99/100. fjaril (4556)   ranked 23 out of 38,461 in life  1 year ago

interesting comments: I was unable to attribute that saying about atheism to Richard Dawkins, therfore giving it no merit for me at this time. sorry.
Thanks so much for adding the links though. Very kind of you. Take care!


myLot reputation of 86/100. ronreyes (609)   ranked 1,347 out of 38,461 in life  1 year ago

I see. But don't worry, I still admire Richard Dawkins.

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17. myLot reputation of 81/100. klaudine (2194)   ranked 3,231 out of 38,461 in life   1 year ago

Well... I am not an atheist and I believe in God. I think Atheism is a life choice and it is his beliefs. So if someone said it to me, I wouldn't answer anything. There is no use to debate about beliefs. I believe in God, but I don't believe in religion, how would you say that? I mean, if he believes that there is no God, I should respect his opinion, as long as he is not going to be offensive to my belief, I wouldn't say a word.
Now if you ask me to justify this with Bible verse or Koran verse, or any other Holy Book verses (since there are Buddhism, Hinduism, Kaballah etc.), I wouldn't be able to do that because I don't believe in religion.


myLot reputation of 86/100. ronreyes (609)   ranked 1,347 out of 38,461 in life  1 year ago

Same here. I'm a firm believer but not so religious. LOL

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18. myLot reputation of 78/100. rup011 (553)   ranked 3,711 out of 38,461 in life   1 year ago

I used to argue a lot with the atheists. But now I dont. I know they will not start believing in God and I will not stop believing in God. So let them carry on with their belief and I will carry on with mine. The atheists should not waste their time trying to convince the believers about their views and vice versa. God has created both these types and they will continue to exist. Let God tackle this.


myLot reputation of 86/100. ronreyes (609)   ranked 1,347 out of 38,461 in life  1 year ago

Good point! All we have to do is to put the word "respect" between believers and unbelievers.

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19. myLot reputation of 97/100. Pose123 (5825)   ranked 62 out of 38,461 in life   1 year ago

Hi ronreyes, I believe that it is all a great mystery. While I believe that we continue to live after the transition that we call death, I would not venture to try to describe God, except to say that God is probably in everyone and everything. Blessings.


myLot reputation of 86/100. ronreyes (609)   ranked 1,347 out of 38,461 in life  1 year ago

Good one! Whether we become a believer or not, we can't deny that it became a part of our history - our life itself.

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20. myLot reputation of 84/100. guybrush (3505)   ranked 2,436 out of 38,461 in life   1 year ago

I think religious discussions are difficult, because none of us are ever going to change anyone's convictions. I have a deep respect for the beliefs of others, but having been brought up Christian I now choose to embrace pagan beliefs. I found the Anglican church was rife with hypocrisy, and finally came to the conclusion I'd rather be a decent and honest human being, doing the best I could in the world than hide behind a church in order to be forgiven for my sins each week as I had seen many people doing. I watched these people come out of confession and happily go about their corrupt and unpleasant dealings for the rest of the week before confessing again and thinking they had their slates wiped clean. There have been too many wars fought over religion, and too much division and unhappiness.


myLot reputation of 86/100. ronreyes (609)   ranked 1,347 out of 38,461 in life  1 year ago

I understand. But those people who fought over religion are extremists. It's like saying an atheist that is crazy over something and becomes a criminal.


myLot reputation of 84/100. guybrush (3505)   ranked 2,436 out of 38,461 in life  1 year ago

Very true - but when you look at it, religion seems to attract extremists. I will never understand how something supposedly based on love, tolerance and decency has caused so much distress and nurtured so much hate. There is nothing that could convince me to turn to a mainstream religion again, as it's the human factor which has taken away the Godliness.


myLot reputation of 86/100. ronreyes (609)   ranked 1,347 out of 38,461 in life  1 year ago

I believe it's not only religion that caused them to become extremists. Most criminals do it for money, power, perhaps fame, and what's most irritating is that some people commits crime for pleasure!

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