If an ATHEIST tells you "There is no God!"  |
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What will be your reaction? And what will you say to him/ her?
This discussion is for everybody to respond to, both atheists and believers.
Obviously, atheists will agree to this statement, so I hope you'll respond with your best atheistic manner. Like a "no-care" type of response.
Same goes with the believers. If you want to justify this with a Bible verse or a Koran verse, that's fine.
Ok, I'll go first.
I'm a believer, and either of these three statements will be my response:
1.) "Right, and there's no air to breathe as well!" 2.) "...and there's no explosion that has the ability to make all things unique!" 3.) "No God? So we all came from nothing? An Accident happened in the midst of darkness? Where does colors came from then?"
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81. bappisingh (536) | 1 year ago | I will not believe on Atheist. Nobody and no thing possible without god. Only GOD is operating is world. All super power have GOD. They is hide but live with every one. In this world noting is without GOD.
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ronreyes (609) | 1 year ago | I see. Thanks for sharing your views.
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82. alindahaw (2030) | 1 year ago | I always believe that there is a God. If people say that there is no God, I always tell them that whether or not they think that there is no God, that will not change the fact that there is a God. Believing in something that you cannot see and touch is what makes faith what it is. You believe. That's the key. It doesn't matter if you do not go to church or does not belong to a church for that matter, if you believe that there is a God, then you have faith.
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ronreyes (609) | 1 year ago | I love the last line. I, myself, am not a regular church-goer anymore since I already accepted the fact that I'm not really religious.
But I'm still a believer. I still have this thing called faith. Living a positive life and just being a good person is how I praise God.
Once again, I'll say what I know is true: "It doesn't matter what you believe in, it's how you live that matters!"
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83. asselg1984 (370) | 1 year ago | If an ATHEIST is telling me "Ther is no God" I would say, there is, how do you know there is no "God" when you had just told me the name? How were you able to utter that pronoun if there is None?... First, if there is no God: 1. How did the earth started? From an explosion? If it is from that explosion..then who is responsible for the explosion? 2. How can you imagine the earth composed of water, land, air, and other minerals, holding all together forming sphere? Well sure there is gravity, who made that gravity?
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ronreyes (609) | 1 year ago | As far as I know, and from what we've been taught in our science class, gravity is just a scientific term in order to justify the falling of objects.
In short, it's imaginary. It's not really "something" like a magnet or a rope that pulls you down.
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84. switlyf (424) | 1 year ago | I don't think that person knows the word respect. Personally what i believe and what i worship is nature but i also respect those who believe in their god. I respect that other religion exist and i won't be confronting or telling them what i believe and what i don't. I may not be believing in God but at least i know how to respect others.
I remember one time at work there's this officemate of mine who wore a shirt saying F--- Y-- Jesus ( i know you know what i mean ) he wore that on a good friday. I don't know what came into his mind to wear such shirt. He was given a violation slip for that because according to our boss that person wore that shirt already and was given a warning.
I guess the real issue here is be respectful to those who believes in God. And always remember that you are not alone in this world to do whatever you want without even thinking about others. Not that you need to be mindful about others will tell you if you this or that, sometimes its not good to be doing whatever other people would want you to do.Its like your pleasing others but not yourself. So as i was saying respect is a very important thing you must learn.
Happy mylotting! Thanks!
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ronreyes (609) | 1 year ago | Right indeed! Respect is the word. But it seems to be the hardest word for some people! LOL
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85. overwings (3639) | 1 year ago | After getting all that religious info through my education I can say it never woke up any religious feeling. I never felt the need to question myself where we come from or why the world is as it is. Knowing whoever made it, whatever made it, if it was made by itself, or if symply it's been always there, is not something that is going to change my life. Learning something about religioin and the holy story is good to understand this society, to know what is good and bad and to understand religious art. Out of that, I don't need more.
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ronreyes (609) | 1 year ago | "Where we came from?" "Why are we here?" "How does it all started?"
These are just some of life's greatest questions that serves as a mystery.
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86. rogue13xmen13 (7217) | 1 year ago | I will say that they might not be wrong about that. I am an Agnostic (which is one step away from Atheist according to Christians) and we Agnostics believe in a higher power, force or spirit, or whatever you wish to name it, but we do not believe in religion or that this higher power can ever be known. We acknowledge that Jesus Christ, Buddha, and others may have existed at one time, but we do not believe them to be God. We do not see God or the higher power, or make that claim, but we do believe that something is out there. People who are Atheist do not believe in anything, but that is fine because they are honest in their beliefs. If you do not see God, then that is not your fault. I do not see God. I can feel that something is out there, but I do not believe it to be a being. I see it as being a lot like "The Force" from "Star Wars". It is the energy the brings us into being. People who claim to see God, I seriously have to question their beliefs because look at the people who can see God and the ones who cannot. Who is right and who is wrong? I cannot see God.
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ronreyes (609) | 1 year ago | In this life, we cannot be 100% sure "Who is right and who is wrong" when it comes to the origin of life. For one obvious reason, we weren't there when everything came to existence. So that's where faith comes in.
Some people have faith in God - which is fine! Some people have faith in science - which is fine! Some people have faith in both - this one applies to me and I know it's a good thing.
Although I'm not agnostic. LOL But I respect you.
I guess death has an essence then. When you die, that's the perfect time where you'll know exactly who is right and who is wrong.
For now, just live life.
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87. mommyfied (218) | 1 year ago | i will tell that person that i believe there is a God and He created everything around you, including yourself. If he makes fun about it, ridicules me, i will not waste my time on him. To each his own. i will not succumb myself to such type of discussions. but that person should respect my beliefs.
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ronreyes (609) | 1 year ago | True! Respect is the word!
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88. maidangela7349 (286) | 1 year ago | The fact is that nobody who is alive or has ever lived knows what started the process by which the universe, as we know it, was formed. Or why the condition of the universe is such that the earth came into being and that it was suitable to create and support life and the process by which different forms of life evolve. We do know that it has all happened and it is wonderful but we don't know what caused it to happen. Christians and other related religions accept the biblical version but this was written thousands of years ago by leaders of a desert tribe who had even less knowledge that we do. In fact they did not know just how wonderful it all actually is. It is therefore certain that the biblical version is wrong and it follows that the "god" mentioned in that version is just another invention by those early leaders probably for political purposes. It is easy to see that the god mention in the old testament is different from the god in the new testament so you already have two versions and the whole book is full of obvious flaws and contradictions. So why would any intelligent person accept what is in this book as something to guide them through life. I can't think of any valid reason to do this so I am an atheist or maybe and agnostic as I don't say there is no god of any sort just that if there is nobody knows who or what that god is and we are nowhere near finding out. I accept that some people need a sort of mental prop to help them and that religion can provide this but I also believe that religious leaders use that need to provide and support their own position in life either by extracting monies from these people or using their need to give themselves power.
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ronreyes (609) | 1 year ago | How do you know that the Bible was written thousands of years ago by leaders of a desert tribe?
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| XiaXueYi (51) | 1 year ago | ron, the "Dead Sea Scrolls".
I've no idea (even with some quick online referencing) whether the area that is really a desert or just dry terrain, but I suppose that is what they were referring to.
Still, the argument does not stand because thousands of years ago, civilisation existed, and people then weren't as less knowledgable as we were. In fact history was taken from them, and lots of original information was lost through the times.
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maidangela7349 (286) | 1 year ago | The general opinion is that the five important books of the old testament were written by Moses who was the leader of the Isralites who, after they left Eqypt, were a tribe of desert dwellers. Someone else may have written them or they may be written down versions of oral histories but they did come from desert dwellers There certainly were civilised societies at and even before the books of the old testament were written and they did have some knowledge but they did not have our knowledge of DNA, the fossil evidence of evolution, our knowledge of the make up of the universe and our telescopes or even the existence of such places as Australia. Whoever wrote the story of Gilgamesh or Noah would certainly have written it differently if they knew about Australia.
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ronreyes (609) | 1 year ago | What's the connection of Australia to Gilgamesh and Noah?
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maidangela7349 (286) | 1 year ago | I do apologies I though the connection would have been blindingly obvious but clearly not. If you read the story and they are both in essence the same story, you will find that, apart from some domestic animals, Noah took two of each kind of animal on board. The Australian connection is that had the writer known that several thousand miles away there was a whole continent filled with unique "kinds" of animals he or she would have added something into the story to account either for Noah or Gilgamesh collecting these animals from this remote land or how they survived when left behind. The fact that he or she didn't shows clearly that the story was not about a world wide flood but a local, if widespread, flood which to someone who had limited travel facilities would have seemed like it was world wide.
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89. derek_a (5136) | 1 year ago | I would ask him if life exists around him. He could hardly say that life did not exist. Then I would point out that masters of the past have said and written that God is life, and that now he is saying that life does not exist. I would also ask him if there was such a thing as love. Could he deny love existed? And has it not been said that God is love?
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ronreyes (609) | 1 year ago | God means everything for some people. I think that's the reason why he became confused. LOL
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90. phyrethyme (729) | 1 year ago | I won't contradict. I'd ask the atheist to explain. I am Catholic but I think there is no use starting up an argument because we all have something we believe in, and it doesn't mean that our beliefs are all the same. I would ask him to share with me about his beliefs. I am not going against my religion. I am trying to keep an open mind.
There's no use starting an argument because that would be disrespecting what they believe in. Religion and other things taught me to respect.
If you would say that they are not respecting our beliefs, well. That's their problem, right? Not ours. I'd just go on with what I believe in. I won't let myself be affected because it will just ruin anything. No use trying to force things into a close-minded person's head.
But once he makes an offense, I guess that's where we strike back. We're only humans anyway. It'd be understandable if one loses temper in a rational point of view.
If you want to know what I would tell the atheist who'd tell me that there is no God, I'd tell him to shut up. LOL. Honestly, I don't know. Maybe I'd cite things or teachings from Descartes, St. Thomas, St. Augustine, etc.
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ronreyes (609) | 1 year ago | And what are those teachings? Pls. educate me. I want to learn.
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phyrethyme (729) | 1 year ago | It's too much to post here and I have to "collect" my thoughts. Hm. If you want, you can give me your email address and I can send you my notes. You can also just google them up.
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ronreyes (609) | 1 year ago | Hmmm. Why not send it through friendster? Here's my profile URL: http://www.friendster.com/eronreyes
Just add me, no need for an e-mail address.
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phyrethyme (729) | 1 year ago | Oh. It's in powerpoint form, that's why.
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phyrethyme (729) | 1 year ago | Well anyway. I added you on friendster.
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ronreyes (609) | 1 year ago | Thanks. I'll check it out later. I have to eat first. LOL
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