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myLot reputation of 67/100. anniepa (11663)   ranked 329 out of 3,985 in politics 4 years ago

V.P. nominee Joe Biden got some "tough" questions from "reporter" Barbara West last Thursday that were so loaded with false statements Biden at one point asked, "Are you joking? Is this is a joke? Or is that a real question?" West is actually a health reporter for Orlando WFTV, but there's more to her biography than that:

http://www.bluetidalwave....

Well it turns out that her husband, Wade West, is a political and media consultant for Republican politicians. The GOP talking points Barbara West used in her interview may have come directly from the McCain Palin communications team via her husband Wade.

From Barbara West's website "I am married to Wade West, an international media consultant to politicians, professionals and organizations."


West's media communication and fundraising skills have made him a popular consultant for Republican political candidates ranging from local elections, to more than 85 members of Congress and members of the President’s cabinet.

Both Barbara and Wade West have frequently emceed Republican fundraisers in the local Central Florida community for at least a decade.

Wade West is also a Republican donor. West donated $250 to the NATIONAL REPUBLICAN CONGRESSIONAL COMMITTEE. He gave $500 to Will McBride a Republican candidate for U.S. Senate in Florida. As well as $500 to John Mica and $1,000 to Richard Keller both GOP congressional candidates in Florida.
(End of excerpt)

I know the conservatives here and elsewhere were outraged by the "gotcha" questions asked of an unsuspecting Sarah Palin by Charlie Gobson and Katie Couric; do the questions asked of Joe Biden by a reporter/Republican surrogate also fall into that category?

Annie


 

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1. myLot reputation of 83/100. rjscott (3069)   4 years ago

"Are you joking? Is this is a joke? Or is that a real question?"

Annie, are YOU joking? I think we've all seen the video clip of West asking the question. What does her being a health reporter have to do with the price of oil or anything else? She asked a VALID question.

Let's take the rest of the nonessentials out of the equation. She asked a question and Biden was ill-prepared to reply to it.

It doesn't matter who gave how much to whom. He failed to adequately reply to the QUESTION.

Annie, I respect you and your views ... but really ... it was a question that he just was unable to reply to ... and the video clip confirmed that.

Memo to self: Good GOD! Are we so blind (or hard of hearing) that we cannot recognize a VALID question asked by a reporter, whether she's a health reporter or a not even a reporter -- what if I had asked it? it was a VALID question. (C) 2008 RJScott


myLot reputation of 60/100. Taskr36 (6780)   ranked 284 out of 3,985 in politics  4 years ago

Well it's happening just as I said it would. They are going to question her credentials, look into her financial records, history, and relationships. Soon she'll have satellite vans on her lawn and we'll hear about democratic officials illegally accessing her DMV records and her tax reports.


myLot reputation of 67/100. anniepa (11663)   ranked 329 out of 3,985 in politics  4 years ago

The way that question was worded you know as well as I do there would have been no "adequate" answer. What her being a health reporter has to do with it is fairly simple - on any local news station I've ever seen the meteorologist doesn't usually give the sports report while the consumer advocate gives the sports and the news anchor gives the weather and the health reporter gives the "hard" news.

Had everything been equal except for Palin being the interviewee and the "reporter" being married to a Democratic consultant as well as being a Democratic activist himself (or herself), this would have been the worst interview ever.
Annie

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2. myLot reputation of 60/100. Taskr36 (6780)   ranked 284 out of 3,985 in politics   4 years ago

Of course she's a republican plant. She's the first interviewer to grill Biden the way Palin's been grilled by Couric, Gibson, or of course, Drew Griffin, the man who lied and misquoted an article to put Palin on the defensive by claiming a republican journalist was insulting her when he was actually criticizing the media coverage.

You're right Annie. Shame on her for asking tough questions. Clearly she should have read the script provided to her by the Obama campaign. She should have stuck to questions like "Why is Obama so great?", "Is he related to Brad Pitt", and "What's it like to know you're making history?"

By the way, exactly what lies did she tell in that interview. Please include proof of lies for the benefit of those people reading who aren't minions of Obama.


myLot reputation of 83/100. rjscott (3069)  4 years ago

YAY you!


myLot reputation of 67/100. anniepa (11663)   ranked 329 out of 3,985 in politics  4 years ago

You're kidding, right? You consider what Palin got from Gibson or Couric being "GRILLED"? Have you watched any TV when Palin isn't onscreen lately? Biden has appeared on Meet the Press and all the other major political and news shows more than politicians and he's never backed down from tough questions. I'm sure you'd like the transcript of every single one but that wouldn't help because we're not going to agree on this no matter what anyone says. Let's suffice it to say that I agreed with Keith Olbermann 100% when he called Sarah Palin a fraud at the end of his campaign comment. Sorry if this offends some here but it's how I see it. I'm also very sorry as a woman that the first female V.P. nominee in over two decades could ever be seen in that way.
Annie


myLot reputation of 74/100. thedogshrink (686)   ranked 307 out of 3,985 in politics  4 years ago

It is known that the "do you agree with the Bush Doctrine" was misleading. Many people have pointed out that there is no clear cut Bush Doctrine, and at least several different points have been referred to as the Bush Doctrine. How was she supposed to know which one or what he was referring to?
So Biden and Obama have been given a free pass all this time from the media, and finally someone dares asks them the question that the public has been asking all week, and that Obama has denied -- and Biden with all his years of experience can't answer it? It's so different from Palin.
Obama embraced socialism and Marxism in his book, yet now claims he is neither or rather he doesn't lean in those directions. It is a reasonable question to ask. If they are not leaning in that direction it would have been answerable. You Obama supporters keep arguing that he is not Marxist or socialist or even leaning that way --- how come Biden couldn't answer that question. IF it's not true, there's a way to answer it. If it's true, the American people NEED to know and have a RIGHT to know.

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3. myLot reputation of 83/100. lilwonders456 (3526)   ranked 34 out of 3,985 in politics   4 years ago

To be fair he worked for Bill Clinton too while he was president. It was something to do with the war on drugs and dealing with foreign governments to stop them. She was on larry king live last night. Her husband has worked for both parties on different things. But you can tell they are both republicans.

I do feel the question was worded badly and it was meant to cause a stir. But really I would love to hear Biden answer it. Some of do think his "redistribution of wealth" is alittle marxist and/or socialist. I would love to hear how it isn't.

But then this is coming from the same man who said it was our patriotic duty to pay higher taxes. WHy so they can waste it on more special interest groups and lobbyists? What would be patriotic would be for our elected officials to actually be responsible with the money we already give them so that they would not have to raise taxes on anyone.


myLot reputation of 67/100. anniepa (11663)   ranked 329 out of 3,985 in politics  4 years ago

I'd love to hear how what Palin boasts about all the time and takes undeserved credit for in Alaska isn't every bit as socialist or marxist. With all the money the current Administration has borrowed to wage this immoral war in Iraq there is no possible way to balance the budget and pay down the debt without raising taxes. I agree earmarks should be eliminated but they account for less than 1% of the total budget. Obama/Biden's plan will only return the tax rate for the very wealthiest Americans to what they were during the Clinton years and they'll finally give a bit of a break to the middle class who somehow always get ignored.

What the Bush Administration has done with this bail-out is much more "socialist" by definition than raising taxes slightly on the wealthiest among us while giving a break to the less fortunate.
Annie


myLot reputation of 83/100. lilwonders456 (3526)   ranked 34 out of 3,985 in politics  4 years ago

I agree the bail out were socialist and also they were "corporate welfare". It is disgusting. I keeping hearing on the news that the CEOs will probly get their million dollars in bonus money from it. Nice to know I am paying them my tax dollars to pay them for helping to get us into this mess (not).


myLot reputation of 74/100. thedogshrink (686)   ranked 307 out of 3,985 in politics  4 years ago

The Bush Administration is NOT campaigning in this election. They are a separate entity, and despite what Obama keeps putting out there with his unprecedented amounts of money (after saying he would accept public finds which would LIMIT the amounts spent) McCain has BUTTED HEADS with the current administration many, many times.

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4. myLot reputation of 75/100. irishidid (3461)   ranked 839 out of 3,985 in politics   4 years ago

Now what's that old saying? Turn about is fair play.

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5. myLot reputation of 81/100. ZephyrSun (3727)   ranked 101 out of 3,985 in politics   4 years ago

ROFL!! Yes we all know that there are outraged huh?! lol I can't believe a health reporter would be put on to interview a VP candidate. Was this a FOX network? lol


myLot reputation of 75/100. irishidid (3461)   ranked 839 out of 3,985 in politics  4 years ago

Then would you say the ladies of the view, excluding Barbara Walters, have no business asking political questions of their guests?
Why is it called skirting the truth when Sarah Palin doesn't answer a question but it is perfectly acceptable for Biden not to answer?

Being a health reporter has nothing to do with it. Absolutely nothing.


myLot reputation of 81/100. ZephyrSun (3727)   ranked 101 out of 3,985 in politics  4 years ago

Good thing we are in the US and we are both able to have our own opinions.

"Why is it called skirting the truth when Sarah Palin doesn't answer a question (...)"

Didn't know it was called "skirting the truth" I can't stand listening to Palin and I hate listening to news being reported about her. I have actually never been so sickened by a politican and I'm from a state that is almost as corrupt as Alaska.

As for "The View" it's a talk show they can have on whomever they want and ask whatever they want. This was suppose to be the news. Our local news has some reporter that pulls all the reports on restaurants from the health department, the station made him take some health classes at the local college.


myLot reputation of 75/100. irishidid (3461)   ranked 839 out of 3,985 in politics  4 years ago

Isn't that the difference between the talk show and the news? The ability to ask questions? So you are saying if it was someone else then it would have been a legitimate question that Biden should have answered. Right?


myLot reputation of 81/100. ZephyrSun (3727)   ranked 101 out of 3,985 in politics  4 years ago

Nah I'm just making excuse after excuse for Biden because that is what the Republican sheep do for Palin. Don't you remember, "she didn't hear the question correctly" "it was a gotcha question" "those were hard questions" "those were sexiest questions"


myLot reputation of 67/100. anniepa (11663)   ranked 329 out of 3,985 in politics  4 years ago

Good for you, Zephyr! I'd love to see how the Palinites would react if someone asked her a question even remotely as rude and misleading as this one was.

"Governor Palin, how are we to believe your Administration would treat those parts of America you yourself have said are not the "real" America the same as those areas you admit to favor?"

Annie


myLot reputation of 75/100. irishidid (3461)   ranked 839 out of 3,985 in politics  4 years ago

I've heard several say obama's ideas are Marxist. Someone asked Biden about it. It wasn't a loaded question, but something that has been on the minds of some people. Biden could have easily given an answer and settled it. Unless he just doesn't know the answer.


myLot reputation of 67/100. anniepa (11663)   ranked 329 out of 3,985 in politics  4 years ago

Kind of like Sarah could have answered the question about what magazines and newspapers she reads but she saw it was a question meant to make her look bad so she evaded it? I think it would have been a lot easier to think of just ONE publication when you've claimed that's who you've learned about the world than to come up with an "adequate" answer to a question about Marxism to satisfy a reporter and an audience who don't even know the true definition of the word or what the Obama/Biden campaign is really proposing.
Annie


myLot reputation of 74/100. thedogshrink (686)   ranked 307 out of 3,985 in politics  4 years ago

I am tired of people claiming that anyone who says Marxist or socialist doesn't know what they are talking about. That's not true. And just because Obama has not said anything in this campaign to indicate he plans to push to the full Marxist society does NOT meant that he is not leaning in the direction of Marxism and/or socialism.
His reason for not halting the capital gains tax at least temporarily during this economy?
"It wouldn't be fair",
more than once he has answered in a similar way, even noting at times that it will mean a MUCH SLOWER RECOVERY, but it's "only fair".
Obama clearly prefers evening out the society rather than growing our economy.
History has shown his ideas to be unworkable. His ideas are straight from Herbert Hoover, and John Dewey. Herbert Hoover initiated many of these same ideas -- and took our country from a DEEP recession to a severe DEPRESSION; the Great Depression. News flash: WE ARE CURRENTLY IN A DEEP RECESSION.


myLot reputation of 81/100. ZephyrSun (3727)   ranked 101 out of 3,985 in politics  4 years ago

the-

I have no idea why you are in my thread talking about marxism and socialism because no one has brought it up until you. Guess you're a little off topic. But since you're here...

"And just because Obama has not said anything in this campaign to indicate he plans to push to the full Marxist society does NOT meant that he is not leaning in the direction of Marxism and/or socialism."

What in the heck do you call the bank bailout? How about the other bank bailout of the 80's? How about the auto makers bailouts? All forms of socialism.

"His reason for not halting the capital gains tax at least temporarily during this economy? "It wouldn't be fair", (...)"

Who has capital gains? My 401k took a $1,000 hit in September. Do you honestly think that once the next president takes office that the US's problems are going to simply disappear?

"News flash: WE ARE CURRENTLY IN A DEEP RECESSION."

Just depends on where you live. There are some areas that have not felt the recession that was just announced. Yes the US just had all the offical numbers happen for the offical amount of time to announce a recession but you won't hear that out of the Bush adminstration.


myLot reputation of 78/100. debrakcarey (2673)   ranked 138 out of 3,985 in politics  3 years ago

For Irishidid....Pres. Obama wouldn't like it if he put his foot in his mouth, again. Remember the swine flu remark....don't tell the people to wash their hands after they sneeze for heavens sake! lol

He probably didn't want to get called on the carpet for saying the wrong thing again! So he asked if the question was a joke...;)

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6. myLot reputation of 86/100. chameleonsdream (808)   ranked 92 out of 3,985 in politics   4 years ago

You know, the part of this whole story I find amusing - and have been waiting for someone to bring up - is what the McCain campaign did when Campbell Brown wouldn't let him off the hook on answering her question. They canceled McCain's scheduled interview with Larry King later that week and informed CNN that no one from their campaign would be available for interviews because their reporters were obviously biased.

The question by West was obviously phrased to provoke a response, and it did. The response was "Are you serious?" As far as media bias goes - liberals on the far left have just as many complaints about media bias as those on the far right, and I you can find out just how much the media is biased toward a moderate liberal viewpoint by subscribing to email alerts from Media Matters (for the left-wing side of the issue) and reading right wing news/blog sites for the right wing side of the issue. There's plenty of bias to go around and the only way to get a somewhat clear view of any of it is to read both sides instead of the middle who don't ask hard questions of -anyone-.


myLot reputation of 75/100. irishidid (3461)   ranked 839 out of 3,985 in politics  4 years ago

They discussed this issue on a news program. I forget which one, on CNN I believe. What they said was that when a candidate doesn't like the questions they will generally find excuses not to have interviews with the station. The only difference here is that Obama's team openly stated they would no longer speak or give interviews to them. Not exactly a smart move on their part and may come back to bite them later on.


myLot reputation of 86/100. chameleonsdream (808)   ranked 92 out of 3,985 in politics  4 years ago

The McCain campaign made no bones about it either. They were very clear that they were canceling Senator McCain's interview with Larry King on CNN because they didn't like the fact that Campbell Brown pressed Tucker Bounds to answer her question. Their official statement was "after a relentless refusal by certain on-air personalities to come to terms with Senator McCain's selection of Alaska's sitting governor as vice presidential nominee, we decided John McCain's time would be better served elsewhere."


myLot reputation of 67/100. anniepa (11663)   ranked 329 out of 3,985 in politics  4 years ago

Great point, and CNN is a national network while the Biden interview was on a local Orlando station who decided to put their health reporter whose husband happens to be a GOP consultant on the air with the specific purpose, I've no doubt, of trying to make Biden look bad. Sorry, righties, but I don't think it worked, I think she made herself look bad but it's fine if you disagree with me because that's what myLot is all about. I knew I'd take some heat for this post but I didn't care.
Annie


myLot reputation of 74/100. thedogshrink (686)   ranked 307 out of 3,985 in politics  4 years ago

Barbara West is not just a health reporter. She has a long history as a journalist and reporter. Her station also has a history of asking hard questions.
Fox news has mentioned that McCain stopped interviews with CNN for a time, but I didn't hear that interview and don't know the details to comment on it.
My understanding in this case with Biden is that the Obama campaign blacklisted the entire station indefinitely and that was the difference.


myLot reputation of 86/100. chameleonsdream (808)   ranked 92 out of 3,985 in politics  4 years ago

The Obama campaign canceled an already scheduled interview by Jill Biden with the same reporter (West) on a Florida network affiliate because of what they felt were biased questions asked in an interview with Joe Biden. When pushed further, they said that they didn't foresee any other interviews with those connected with the campaign before election day.

The McCain campaign canceled an already scheduled interview by Senator McCain with a different interviewer on a major national cable news network because of what they saw as rough treatment of Tucker Bounds by Campbell Brown on a morning news show.



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7. myLot reputation of 92/100. Bd200789 (2164)   ranked 68 out of 3,985 in politics   4 years ago

I call that more "gotcha" than Katie Couric's interview with Palin. She is a health reporter. Why was she interviewing any candidate?

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8. myLot reputation of 82/100. MoonlightSerenade (998)   4 years ago

LOL, those questions did seem like some kind of Stephen Colbert type questions, and I might have thought they were a joke, too. I mean that was some kind of a setup. I was really amused when I found out that "reporter's" husband is a Republican consultant. No wonder. That was nutty.

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9. myLot reputation of 20/100. Tallymommy (1907)   4 years ago

What's sad to me is that someone finally asks tough questions, and the response she gets is a hissy fit stating that she won't get to interview him anymore, and a cancellation of her upcoming interview with his wife...it doesn't shock me though, Obama gets mad when someone dares to ask him tough questions as well, have you seen how badly Joe has been raked through the mud? I'm still trying to figure out why someone wants to vote for these two, from taking funds from our troops because they didn't get their precious timeline, to stating they will take your money and give it to someone else to stating we will have a crisis if he is elected, the only thing I can gather is people don't think they personally will lose money...


myLot reputation of 74/100. thedogshrink (686)   ranked 307 out of 3,985 in politics  4 years ago

Good points, Tally. OI heard some reporter say that it seems maybe many people look at the candidates in the light of whether they personally will be affected.
I, for one, stand to gain significantly under an Obama Administration. But I am voting for McCain. Because I believe that Obama's ideas will harm our economy, our Constitution, and our country ultimately -- and that is not worth whatever gain I might have in the short run from his expanded welfare/socialism.


myLot reputation of 82/100. MoonlightSerenade (998)  4 years ago

This has been the worst-run eight years in presidential history. Now suddenly tge fringe is screaming Marxism and socialism (a lot of people skipped government class) about rolling the tax code back to a reasonable level? To a time when our country balanced its budget. And a time where people had jobs. You have seen a redistribution of income to the wealthy for the past several years, while jobs have been exported overseas and companies rewarded for doing it.

Socialism involves government control of utilities, transportation and media. Please read about this, as changing the tax code is not socialism. These "tough questions" as you call them were twisted setups by the wife of a Republican strategist. They were laughable as anyone who didn't skip government class knows. I wonder how many of those crying about pending socialism sent back their stimulus checks, and have opted themselves and their folks out of Social Security and Medicare?

You should also study the Joseph McCarthy communist witchhunts of the 1950s. They led to the needless ruination of dozens of lives.





myLot reputation of 20/100. Tallymommy (1907)  4 years ago

thedogshrink - I'm in a similar situation, I would benefit from Obama's socialist ideas of spreading the wealth, except my parents taught me to work for what I get and not expect handouts through life...I'm old fashioned I guess, at 31!

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10. myLot reputation of 74/100. cotton0821 (688)   ranked 683 out of 3,985 in politics   4 years ago

I have always thought the best measure of a politician was their response to a tough question. They could whine about it or view it as an opportunity to fully explain some tough issues. Biden was given an opportunity to put to rest a charge made by many that Obama is too liberal or a socialist. Instead he chose to sidestep the issue. A tough question is an opportunity not a demonstration of bias.

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