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American Express made it self a bank to get a hand out, is that fair?  email this discussion to a friend?

myLot reputation of 83/100. lilwonders456 (3526)   ranked 34 out of 3,985 in politics 4 years ago

Yep you heard me right. American Express had itself reclassified as a bank so that it could get its hands on some bail out money. Come on. American Express is not a bank. They are a credit card company. There are not going into the bank business. They are still going to be a credit card company. Just now they are "classified" as a bank and therefore get 3.5 Billion in bail outs. Gee it looks like anyone can decide to be a bank and get money. I wonder if I could just "decide" to be a bank and get a bail out. What do you think of this bail out and how it was done?

 

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1. myLot reputation of 82/100. gimmemoremoney (137)   4 years ago

Alof of fishy stuff seems to be going on ever since the financial crisis started. Here in belgium alot of similar stuff happened aswell, The government here has decided to pump alof cash in the banks to keep them healthy and able to counter the financial crisis. Because of bad management alot of Top-managers in the banks have been sacked, great was the shock to find out for the governement (now new shareholder) that these top-managers received a 4 million Euro (somewhat 5,5 million dollar) fee as golden handshake. another bunch of employees got sky-high fee's aswell so they would keep working there. Now the "golden handshake" has been seriously limited and all of the fee's they payed are being recalled. Now the minister of foreign affairs is being accused of giving sensitive information to his wife who was a shareholder in the bank aswell, She sold all of her shares just hours before the shares became virtually worthless. and there's alot more of these things happened

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2. myLot reputation of 60/100. Taskr36 (6780)   ranked 284 out of 3,985 in politics   4 years ago

You know I was actually going to make a joke on Zehpyr's thread about the bailout saying how I should make myself a bank just to get a bailout. I can't believe someone actually beat me to it. I need to get my computer business up and running fast to get myself added to the bailout. You do know that Circuit City is trying to add themselves to the bailout as well right? That means my own business should be able to qualify soon. I haven't made a dime in my computer business in over 8 months so I should be able to qualify.


myLot reputation of 81/100. ZephyrSun (3727)   ranked 101 out of 3,985 in politics  4 years ago

Are you freakin kidding? I'm going to have to start my own company, how's Mommy's daycare sound? This has turned into the most disgusting thing, I hope they all fail!


myLot reputation of 74/100. thedogshrink (686)   ranked 307 out of 3,985 in politics  4 years ago

Hey, I didn't know the rest of the businesses are on board now!! So we don't even have to declare ourselves banks??
I just started a business in October, and I haven't made anything yet, so I should qualify too.
And it's a woman owned business -- does that get me something extra? Maybe an extra million or so? Or maybe just an extra spa vacation?whistlecoolwink

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3. myLot reputation of 81/100. ZephyrSun (3727)   ranked 101 out of 3,985 in politics   4 years ago

I think maybe there should have been a discussion started such as "how many people aren't mad about all the bailouts" But I'm sure no one would respond to it lol

This has just made me fuming mad. Geeze I forgot to pay my car insurance this month guess the government will have to pay for it.


myLot reputation of 60/100. Taskr36 (6780)   ranked 284 out of 3,985 in politics  4 years ago

The thing that bugs me most though is that both major parties are supporting this crap. I mean, the democrats are more vocal about it, but Bush and McCain led the charge in the first bailout and I don't see either of them showing significant opposition to this one. I know Bush is sort of opposing this one, but he's not that vocal on it and once he's out I'm betting Obama will back it 100%. I'm afraid at the rate things are going I may be a libertarian in a year or two.


myLot reputation of 81/100. ZephyrSun (3727)   ranked 101 out of 3,985 in politics  4 years ago

If it makes you feel any better I read where Bush is against the auto loans.


myLot reputation of 60/100. Taskr36 (6780)   ranked 284 out of 3,985 in politics  4 years ago

I know, but like I said, he isn't being to vocal about it. He's also only a few months away from the end of his term so it could get pushed through then. I'm just hoping that there are enough sane democrats in congress who will block this since the republicans are clearly outnumbered. I have absolutely NO faith in the leaders Reid and Pelosi.


myLot reputation of 81/100. ZephyrSun (3727)   ranked 101 out of 3,985 in politics  4 years ago

Guess we are in the same boat since I have no faith in the Republican party anymore.


myLot reputation of 83/100. lilwonders456 (3526)   ranked 34 out of 3,985 in politics  4 years ago

I have no faith in either so what boat does that leave me in? Let me guess the one up you know what creek and let me guess....I do not have a paddle.


myLot reputation of 81/100. ZephyrSun (3727)   ranked 101 out of 3,985 in politics  4 years ago

LOL It's ok lil want me to throw you a rope? I guess that's why I was always an Independent.


myLot reputation of 74/100. thedogshrink (686)   ranked 307 out of 3,985 in politics  4 years ago

Zephyr, did you mean you don't trust the Democrats anymore? (I thought you already didn't trust the Republicans!)

Lil, I think we're all up that same creek!


myLot reputation of 60/100. Taskr36 (6780)   ranked 284 out of 3,985 in politics  4 years ago

"Guess we are in the same boat since I have no faith in the Republican party anymore."

I've lost a lot of faith hence my comment about the chance of becoming a libertarian, but I still have some slim degree of hope. Congress as a whole has failed the country miserably and the blame is not limited to just one party. There needs to be an infusion of new ideas and not the same garbage being pushed by both sides. I also think we need term limits because there are way too many senators that have been there for decades and will NEVER change to suit the changes in our world.

Note, I don't include McCain in that crowd because he is well known for changing with what he feels is best at different times. That change is more often known as flip flopping of course, but there are times when it's appropriate.


myLot reputation of 81/100. ZephyrSun (3727)   ranked 101 out of 3,985 in politics  4 years ago

dog I didn't stutter for about 15 years I have been an Independent but, this election cycle I have grown to not like the Republican party and especially cannot stand the intolerance of conservatives, which was fueled by conservatives here at mylot. There are a couple of good conservatives here but, I can count them on one hand.

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4. myLot reputation of 62/100. gewcew23 (5064)   ranked 414 out of 3,985 in politics   4 years ago

American Express is just to big to fail. I do wonder who decides what company is to big to fail. Come on do we really need American Express. Most places do not even accept AMEX card. I do not have any credit cards except my company business card, but I can only use it for business only expense so I do not know how many credit card companies there are. I know that there is Visa and MasterCard, I cannot forget about those two because they send my pre-approval letter every week. I am guessing Discover card is still in business, but I cannot remember if I have receive a pre-approval letter from them lately. My point is this, do we really need AMEX, or could not those other fill in the gaps.
About this whole bank thing, I do not get it.


myLot reputation of 60/100. Taskr36 (6780)   ranked 284 out of 3,985 in politics  4 years ago

I couldn't care less about AMEX. I have a Visa and Mastercard, and yes, I still get my regular pre-approvals from Discover so I know they're still in business. Either way, I won't miss them when they're gone and I don't think most Americans will either. My dad is the only one I know with an AMEX card and I'm sure he'd do just fine without it.
Just curious though, when a credit company goes bankrupt, why don't those fees people owe them disappear?


myLot reputation of 83/100. lilwonders456 (3526)   ranked 34 out of 3,985 in politics  4 years ago

I think it is pretty shady to "change" them to a bank of paper so they can get a bail out. When they never were a bank and are never going to be a bank. Basically the government helped American Express commit fraud!!!


myLot reputation of 74/100. thedogshrink (686)   ranked 307 out of 3,985 in politics  4 years ago

They have applied for bailout, but not approved yet, as far as I know. So we have one thread of hope that the Dem-led Congress will decide NOT to approve the fraudulent "bank"/ Yeah, right.

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5. myLot reputation of 88/100. grammasnook (1333)   ranked 129 out of 3,985 in politics   4 years ago

Just wait until all the loan sharks and leg breakers form thier bank and ask for a bailout lol this is so a joken but really all the chit is gonna hit the fan and go spinning out of control. Tell me what would happen if all the homeowners refused to pay thier mortgages? Would they be able to keep up with all those foreclosures? What would they do perhaps start listening to us then?

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6. myLot reputation of 96/100. xParanoiax (5014)   ranked 35 out of 3,985 in politics   4 years ago

I guess the little old grannies who keep all their valuable posessions in a safe in the basement should be classified as banks too, with that logic.
Ooh ooh! How about the moms who keep their money stuffed in their mattress?

Bail out = stupidity that may sink the nation/some of the most astounding stupidity and greed I've seen in my lifetime. It's probably also historic, considering how it will be remembered in the history textbooks and biographies a few generations from now. *ponders*

Did I ever tell you how much I hate credit cards and the companies that created them?
I don't hate alot of things, to be honest. But credit card companies really bring it out of me. They kinda always have.

*sighs*


myLot reputation of 83/100. lilwonders456 (3526)   ranked 34 out of 3,985 in politics  4 years ago

So do my kids count as a bank? They keep their money in a piggy bank. Do they get a bail out too? Looks like they may qualify.

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7. DWSMOMMY (63)   ranked 3,180 out of 3,985 in politics   4 years ago

No, it is not a bank. It is a credit card company and does not deserve out taxpayer dollars at all. We all need to be classified as banks. I am a mom and credit card companies like American Express always take advantage of people like us.

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8. myLot reputation of 74/100. thedogshrink (686)   ranked 307 out of 3,985 in politics   4 years ago

Yeah, I heard about it. Here is my response:
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myLot reputation of 74/100. thedogshrink (686)   ranked 307 out of 3,985 in politics  4 years ago

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9. abluebluerose (28)   ranked 3,585 out of 3,985 in politics   4 years ago

cheeky!
finance industry are in a chaos now... God bless them, and bless us!

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10. myLot reputation of 66/100. BCMike (3316)   4 years ago

No. It's not fair. But to the company execs, as long as the government is dishing out free money, then why not.

I think there should be some massive strings handed out with every dollar. But someone said I was a bit red anyway.

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