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myLot reputation of 73/100. newtondak (2125)   ranked 277 out of 6,389 in politics12 months ago

...from ideology and bigotry -- as he acknowledged the nation faces severe

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/01/17/train.dispatches/index.html

It's a little hard to tell from the way Obama phrased his comment - whether he is actually proposing a new Declaration of Independence or if it is just the phraseology. What do you think?

 
 
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1. myLot reputation of 79/100. baileycows (3409)   ranked 1,057 out of 6,389 in politics   12 months ago

Well I wouldn't doubt it and the bad part is that he is moving toward a socialistic community and people don't even recognize it.


myLot reputation of 73/100. newtondak (2125)   ranked 277 out of 6,389 in politics  12 months ago

I'm starting to see more of his "two-sidedness". First you have the side that is so interested in fixing the economy and doing what is best for the American people - and then you see the side that is his actual political agenda.


myLot reputation of 95/100. kareng (3592)   ranked 405 out of 6,389 in politics  12 months ago

I agree with you 100%. It is crazy how some people are so blinded by this man and his promises! Next they will be bowing down to him. Go figure.


myLot reputation of 73/100. newtondak (2125)   ranked 277 out of 6,389 in politics  12 months ago

People need to open their eyes and realize that he is just a pawn for the Democratic party - it's like he said to Clinton when the mortgage crisis was a big issue - "tell me what to do, and I'll sell it". He's just the salesman - it is his job to smooze the people into believing what they're wanting to do is best for American and the American people.

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2. myLot reputation of 92/100. nanajanet (2665)   ranked 212 out of 6,389 in politics   12 months ago

I would assume that it is just phraseology because the original Declaration was to free us from the tyranny of English rule. Since we are no longer under English rule, it would be moot.

I think he has been the most pro-active president-elect whom I have ever seen.


myLot reputation of 73/100. newtondak (2125)   ranked 277 out of 6,389 in politics  12 months ago

I would feel better about him if he had chose to limit his "transitional" spending to the amount provided to him for that purpose instead of soliciting additional funds from private donations. That, and the fact that he went back on his promise to accept public funding for his campaign - instead soliciting huge amounts of money from donations. These two gestures give the impression that he is not - or chooses not to - able to stay within a specified limit when it comes to money.

In these hard economic times when so many are without jobs and facing homelessness, it seems quite hypocritical for him to be going all out for his own benefit (while using the money of others to do it).


myLot reputation of 95/100. kareng (3592)   ranked 405 out of 6,389 in politics  12 months ago

This also makes you wonder how "balanced" the budget will be when he leaves office. I'm thinking the typical democrat mess.


myLot reputation of 73/100. newtondak (2125)   ranked 277 out of 6,389 in politics  12 months ago

I'm also a little disturbed that not all of these big inaugural events are going to be able to be viewed by the American people - the exclusive rights to the concerts tonight were bought out by HBO.

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3. myLot reputation of 76/100. lilwonders456 (1930)   ranked 60 out of 6,389 in politics   12 months ago

What is so wrong with the declaration of independence we already have?
What would we be declaring our independence from?

Hopefully this is just talk and using of "sound bits". But we will have to keep an eye one it.


myLot reputation of 73/100. newtondak (2125)   ranked 277 out of 6,389 in politics  12 months ago

I believe he actually said a couple of different things at different places on his train ride - I think once he said from bigotry - once he said from small-mindedness - it's a little unclear just what he said when.

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4. myLot reputation of 78/100. xfahctor (5536)   ranked 64 out of 6,389 in politics   12 months ago

I'm pretty sure it was just a figure of speech. Though we are slowly losing this independence. Independence from international bodies and will, independence from monetary scheming, independence from lobbyists and independence from government in itself.


myLot reputation of 73/100. newtondak (2125)   ranked 277 out of 6,389 in politics  12 months ago

If anything, we need freedom from the government using our tax dollars to bail-out big business!


myLot reputation of 66/100. AngrierKitty (221)   ranked 1,065 out of 6,389 in politics  12 months ago

Yeah, and freedom from the government using OUR money to give benefits to ILLEGAL aliens who do not even belong here while actual citizens are suffering!

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5. myLot reputation of 93/100. winterose (17831)   ranked 1,838 out of 6,389 in politics   12 months ago

he wants to bring america back to the the ideals of its inception by the founders, a government by the people for the people, he does not say anything about changing the constitution but getting back to it.


myLot reputation of 73/100. newtondak (2125)   ranked 277 out of 6,389 in politics  12 months ago

"What is required is a new declaration of independence, not just in our nation but in our own lives -- from ideology and small thinking, prejudice and bigotry -- an appeal not to our easy instincts but to our 'better angels,' " he said, using a phrase from Lincoln's inaugural address.

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6. myLot reputation of 75/100. Yestheypayme2dothis (3198)   ranked 1,098 out of 6,389 in politics   12 months ago

Everything this man says and does indicates the wants to "master" the US...maybe even the world. I think he is serious about a new declaration of independence. Socialism is on the way. I can just smell it. His supporters will not even know when it arrives because they have been so busy praising him.


myLot reputation of 73/100. newtondak (2125)   ranked 277 out of 6,389 in politics  12 months ago

I personally think he should be concentrating on the current problems we are experiencing and leave his political agenda on the shelf.

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7. myLot reputation of 66/100. AngrierKitty (221)   ranked 1,065 out of 6,389 in politics   12 months ago

I fear one day there WILL be a new Declaration of Independence, but not from Obama. It will be from people who are fed up with America being given away to illegals and being forced to kowtow to foreign entities, it will arrive on the day civil war breaks out and people who truly believe in America decide to take it back.


myLot reputation of 73/100. newtondak (2125)   ranked 277 out of 6,389 in politics  12 months ago

Amen! This will only happen, however, when the American people start making their elected officials accountable for their actions. I have seen many here already making excuses for Obama's actions - for his overspending during his campaign and this transition and now the inauguration - we can't make excuses for our officials and then expect them to do what is right and lawful.

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