not using a carseat?  

I dont know why there are no cops when you need them! My son is in an early education center. I see a lot of parent that go with their kids without seats not only that but no seat belt either. They probably think that nothing would ever happen to them but they dont realize what a big deal is. and their response always is "they dont like the seat"... so frustrating.

My kids all know that the car will not move until they are all in seat belts, and for the little one, his car seat. She really should think about what she is doing! You never know when you will be in an accident. My oldest son did not like being in his car seat when he was younger, but he sat there. If he threw a fit, he threw a fit, I would just turn up the radio so I didn't have to listen to his fit. If he climbed out while I was driving, I would pull over to the side of the road and put him right back in it. He learned that he had to sit in his car seat whether he liked it or not. It is the parents responsibility to see to it that their child is safe in a vehicle.
I know that in the state of Illinois, if you are pulled over and your child is not in a car seat or seat belt, you get a ticket for it and it does not get thrown out of court. It is a child safety law, and I think it is a good idea. I can only remember two times that I had a child out of their car seat in my vehicle. Both times were emergency situations where my kid was bleeding and I helkp him in my lap while someone else drove us to he hospital!

who's the parent... the mother or the child? I don't understand people like this, no matter how much a child fights a mother/father has to step up do what they need to do ,and if it means getting a few bumps and bruises, its' better than crashing and having your child dead or brain damaged or broken.....

I have a similar situation. Two friends of mine have kids 9-15 days older then my daughter and neither of them use a car seat. One has her daughter in a booster then other uses those weird little box things. All three kids turn 3 in march. It scares the daylights out of me because they are still so small, and using a lap sash could not protect them from any sort of accident! Where as my daughters harnessed car seat would. One says that her son just undoes his clips, so she uses the box thing, and the other says her daughter just doesnt like it. Mind you, she has driven with her daughter in the front seat with no booster because her daughter didnt want to be in the booster. It is outrageous that they dont even consider the dire results of any sort of accident.... but I guess some people wont learn...

Here in Sweden children up to 137 cm needs to be in/on any kind of seat in the car. All people in the car need to wear a seat belt - if not you have to pay a LOT it you get stopped by the police. I do belive it's over $300 each.

Here in Sweden it's recommended that children younger than 5 is in a rear facing seat since it's much more safe if you're in an accident. If some one turns their child earlier many other parents get upset about that ;-).

If there's a seat belt they'll have to wear it - that's it!

I agree, who is the parent? She is having control issues with a 4 yr old..she is gonna have some issues later in life if she doesn't take charge. Why wouldnt she want to protect her child? Things have changed dramatically, when I was a child, I was able to stand on the front seat when my parens were driving, this was back in the late 1950's. I can remember driving across country and my sister and I laying on the floor, or the seat. We were lucky that nothing happened. Life is precious, Buckle up that baby.

I was working in Insurance when a baby in Idaho was decapitated by an airbag because she was in the front seat. http://www.showsupport.org/News/0078.html

My kids always have seatbelts/car seats and no one under 4'9" is allowed in the front seat. Babies who always use the car seat don't even think about it, my kids just know they have to sit in their seat. My girls won't even sit in each other's chairs (even though they are the same except for the color, one pink and one blue). You just have to make it the routine.

The only thing you can do is to keep talking to her and hope that she has a change of mind. My son was the same way he hated the car seat because he hated to be restrain. Did I care? Heck no it life was at stake and eventually he calmed down and went to sleep.


It could not only save her child's life but if something happened to him while in the car without the proper seat it could save her some jail time.

My sisters two children always hated to sit in car seats and she let them get away with it. I would just have a fit. Whenever they were in my car they knew they had to wear their seat belts, no questions asked. Now that they are a little older, and don't have to use car seats, I think they do finally wear their seat belts. If the children throw a fit and the child gets away with it, then I say the parent needs to rethink the situation and ask theirselves who is in control here? Would the parent let the child run out in the street if they wanted to? I don't think so. They would be afraid they would be run over. Its all about safety. I hope your co-worker gets a grip on this situation and makes her son sit in his car seat.

you know where I live that law is they have to be in a car seat until there 9 or so tall. I have 4 kids and even my 9 year old sits in a car seat. They all sit in the back and in a car seat. I dont understand parents sometimes it seems like they let their kids do whatever they want. You know kids learn by what they see and what's around them I will be willingly to bet that she doesnt wear her seat beat either. I hope she learns before its too late and her or her son ends up hurt.