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| We are a people who have not come out of the Victorian morality as yet. This is the preoccupied mindset that is always in the background and would not allow so easily any novelty that shows in the global conrext. The problem is with the lack of orientation. Particularly we the Indians hardly tend to be oriented towards the new and acceptable changes which could be of help the society go ahead. For this we need to have quality and value based education. I wonder as to why things are so stagnant and there is lack of throbbing hearts. Life as it were would never stop but why not we let it go with the better things? How are things there in your part of the universe? Is the socio- cultural milieu in the adaptable by all shape or life is just a pull or a push? Please share. Rajib. 11.04.09 | | | | | |
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1. bird123 (3486)
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3 years ago
| | Seems like no one likes change. But for things to get better change is the answer. We stubborn humans all want the easy and happy life. We would never change that. It's only when adversity hits do we have to think,plan,study,analyze and grow in so many ways along the journey.So with adversity comes DRAMA! What happened to EASY? How can we learn and grow doing nothing except enjoying the ride? We want easy. We need adversity, drama and the interaction that comes from the diversity of the people in this wonderful world. Change will be easier because we all have each other.We can always live the easy life later. | | | | | | |
krajibg (4932)
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3 years ago
| | Very thoughtful response. and this is exactly happening in our society. It is really pathetic I feel. Thanks for responding. | | | |
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2. sanuanu (4141)
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3 years ago
| | Hi Rajib, I wonder that your discussion's quality is superb but when it comes to add comments, you tend to loose the same quality. If you work hard or creating discussions, you should work hard on adding comments too. Somehow I didn't get your point. You are saying that we Indian are not accepting new things. I wonder why do you think like that. We are accepting each and every aspect of life which is coming in with us. You know people now are giving more emphasis on career, be it in study or sports. We even have started winning in Olympics too. Indian guys are now entering into Nasa also. What extra do you want from us? | | | | | | |
krajibg (4932)
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3 years ago
| | Hi sanuanu, first of all thanks for the compliment and positive criticism. Secondly, what you described as new things are as good as some bucket of water in the Thar desert. The changes are in fact pouring both negative and positive and we are taking more of the negative and less of the positive. Right. You just can not be a happy go lucky guy seeing the life of the metros. You need to come down to the smaller town and finally the rural bases. I know them as I worked as a journalist for more than seven years and left and now joining again UNI. | | | |
sanuanu (4141)
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3 years ago
| | Yes, rural areas can be a little problem but there you can find real India and we don't want them to be changed. Imagine if rural india also starts using jeans and miniskirts, then where would you find real India. I am not saying that Villages don't need to be educated and get modern facilities but at the same time we enjoy scent of Indian soil which we can't get in Mumbai or New Delhi. | | | |
krajibg (4932)
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3 years ago
| | Hey buddie whhen did I say that girls shopu;ld were mini or even half mini skirt or sleevless clothes? Did I ? Nope, These are not the changes I am talking about. Thse are rather the dirt that has dlown down from the west. I am talking of of positive changes. | | | |
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krajibg (4932)
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3 years ago
| | @Diana, please do not take it by heart for this was an answer to sanuanu's comment. No offence please. | | | |
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sanuanu (4141)
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3 years ago
| | What exactly is a dirt? When girls would come out of their hose there will will be around her. Now, every girl likes to impress boys in their teenage. You can't stop her from doing what she wants to do once she is college. After all we guys also try to impress them. Difference is that now girls are using different things to attract men and that is what making them a little superior to men. We guys don't like to be dominating and that is why we are doing criminal activities against them. Once a girl is a victim of that, she starts thinking she will get penalized one way or another, so, what is wrong in doing such things. it is the mentality of the society which is leading us towards dirt! | | | |
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sanuanu (4141)
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3 years ago
| | It was Chalce Darwin who suggested that everything runs in a circle and it ends where it was started. So, we are now moving to stone stage, belive it or not! | | | |
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3. asweetie (576)
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3 years ago
| | Well as you very well know how divided our society is and different communities have different level of acceptance of new things like when the population of India exploded and we had so much land as compared to people and we wanted to implement birth control measures, u know the most backward communities opposed it most, same way with Govt pulse polio program. But u can not say Indian dont take up change. Some take it very fast like the economic liberalization in 1991. though there were some resistance by some people with their own interest being harmed like trade unions who were getting pay without work or the factory owners who would sell us any dam thing as competition was not allowed and we Indians were first of the countries to force paperless trading of shares in share market. but since level of education is not so much here so illiteracy and orthodoxy donot allow people to open their mind. I have seen some educated people being orthodox too and they can be lethal.. i hope our education don't take us there. | | | | | | |
krajibg (4932)
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3 years ago
| | Hi, I must say that you hit the nail on the head. This is more of our Victorian morality and orthodontic approach towards life that a good many positive change specially in thought and way of life are yet to take place. We are not prepared nor are we eager to accept the truth and the positive changes and this is the cause that India is importing most of the illss of the western by product. I do not say wearing flimsy cloths and going to the discotheque is a positive acceptance, there are so many good out there which we knowingly sideline. What say? Thanks for your response. | | | |
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| 4. fleur9586 (22)
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3 years ago
| | Our society is getting uglier every single day!earth getting ruin by people. But its a part of being on the modern world.People innovate things with good advantages but having disadvantages also will not be gone.So if we try to get on the hightech world also waste and earth degradation will grow even faster that us having a good life.In order to go much further with our life we are consuming earth's resources, with billions of people living on this earth, time will come this earth will never be enough for human.Now some nations are at war,People so greedy and cruel this king of Attitude will bring us down in the future.Every person here wants power to dominate. | | | | | | |
krajibg (4932)
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3 years ago
| | Hi fleur, Yes unless we develop a positive thinking and welcome the good thing in life we would surely be ruining this earth. Nut I am more concerned about the trends in the society that people tend to accept the negativity more than the positivity. Thanks for the response. | | | |
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5. Canellita (4243)
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3 years ago
| | Be careful what you wish for Rajib. Repeated American rebellion has led to a society of people with no sense of social boundaries who justify their childish and irresponsible behaviors. Personally, there are a few things from Victorian times I would like to see a return to like manners and RESPECT for others. Complete strangers touch you at social gatherings and say all sorts of things that are inappropriate for mixed company. There are a lot of people in need of serious anger management and the problems are so out of hand they would take a lifetime to address. I have never been to India. My only impressions are what I have seen in films like Water and Fire and documentaries. I think the East has certain advantages over the West when it comes to families and tradition and so forth. Change is something in life over which we have little control but some changes are good and some are not. My city is one of those places where the majority of people were resitant to change and then the hurricane hit and the flood protection system failed in a couple places and 80% of the city was under water. Now the people had no choice. People who don't want to live in certain parts of town don't want to live here. There has been a lot of opportunity to come from this great misfortune but many people are too busy complaining and whining like children to embrace those opportunities. In other instances people are afraid of change because there is security in what is familiar. | | | | | | |
krajibg (4932)
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3 years ago
| | Hi Canellita, very well put. People are afraid of change for they feel secure in the present form. Yes, you have got the true picture of India so far as the family bondage is concerned. But now that too has gone to the dogs as most families have broken into pieces and they live a nucleus life. Changes are there and are good and bad. But ironically we tend to receive the bad with more rapidity. Yes in India the Victorian morality still persists and counting on the Metropolis would not do the justice. What say? | | | |
Canellita (4243)
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3 years ago
| | It is unfortunate that family units are not stronger in every culture across the world. Too many people have materialistic goals that are all about themselves. People of certain indigenous and traditional societies have come under the influence of others who spread their way of life like a virus killing off cultures and beliefs that have existed for thousands of years. While it is true that some areas can benefit from some amount of changes it is also true that there is plenty that should be preserved. | | | |
krajibg (4932)
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3 years ago
| | You are right, now specially that these indigenous people are the most vulnerable ones to fall prey the negative changes. Here in India I have seen so many tribal folks coming under the influence of this materialistic hammer. | | | |
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6. wodekonghuapen (1189)
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3 years ago
| | Every society has it's problems. corruption,flibbertigibbet,sham... what could we do? living or wrack and ruin. | | | | | | |
krajibg (4932)
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3 years ago
| | Knowing that i have problems with me would it be worthwhile sitting idle? I guess no. We have unite our voice and let the good one sieve in and be benefited. do not you think so? | | | |
wodekonghuapen (1189)
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3 years ago
| | yes ,i think so. We have struggled for our goal.we have no regret. | | | |
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7. sharra1 (3432)
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3 years ago
| | Some people love change as long as it is something they can benefit from. One of the hardest changes for women has been trying to be accepted as equal humans. When I was growing up I thought the women's movement had broken all the hard ground and that I could compete equally on merit but I found it was not so. This is one area where some men and women still resist change. Unfortunately many of these people who resist are the ones in power in companies, in families and in politics. Even to some extent in education but less so. The same can be said of many other forms of change. Attempts to protect the environment are still struggling because the people who have the money and power do not want to change their ways even if it means destroying the world for everyone else. The only way to stop this is to elect politicians who are willing to force the powerful to change for the good of all. I am not at all sure it is possible since most politicians are part of the rich and powerful and they will not hurt their own. Well they might but it will be too late when the cities are drowned and the damage is irreversible. | | | | | | |
krajibg (4932)
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3 years ago
| | Hi sharra, very aptly put. This is really unfortunate that those who preach of changes are against this when things come down to the reality. We really need some politicians who are courageous enough to resist the evil and are able to install the good. Thanks a lot for sharing. | | | |
sharra1 (3432)
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3 years ago
| | I think the only way to really change our society is to change from a society based on individual greed to one that is genuinely community based. I do not mean communism because that is just as bad as greedy capitalism. I mean a society that is not based on money but on values. I have no idea if it could work but it needs to balance the needs of individuals and communities. It would be one where there was no money at all. Every person got the basic needs provided for them and they got rewards for merit above those needs. They could use those credits to obtain the luxury items that are not part of basic needs. It is idealistic and I am not sure if human greed can really change but it would be a world where one person cannot own everything else. It can only work in a world where greed is not allowed to become destructive. That means strong regulations and a change of values where things and people are valued for what they contribute to society not for how much money they can make. This would mean that knowledge would be valued again for its own sake. People would be able to do the things they are good at and love rather than have to work at a job they hate just to survive because they would be rewarded for contributing to their culture. | | | |
krajibg (4932)
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3 years ago
| | Hi sharra, another novel suggestion. yes that is the only option left now. If we could go to that method there would be some respite or else no. Yes to change the political colour is difficult but if tried we can get united through opinion spreading and thus elect the able and responsible one to rule the country. Thanks again. | | | |
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| 8. msgissatan (34)
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3 years ago
| | Thank you for sharing,hope you can go to see my share | | | | | | |
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krajibg (4932)
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3 years ago
| | Hello Diana, so rye an account, so much from the nerve and sense. Not every one's cap is this. The last line is the icing on the cake - "May be Victorian morality was not bad after all." Agreed that culture differs from country to country but this does not denote that they do not have affinity with each other. It is in the strongest arm that ensuring and delivering of this culture thing could vary but the goal remains the same. After all the difference is not between the pristine society and pristine culture but all they are the product of the contemporary history. This is upheld in true spirit but gets corrupt on the way. Corrupt things smells rather quickly and spontaneously than he safe and non corrupt. As the older generatin is not all jumps and yelling to heil the progress change as they are cosy in the form they are. The grandchildren pick up things and bring home unchecked and unfiltered and a new confrontation gets a go. thanks a lot. | | | |
krajibg (4932)
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3 years ago
| | typo - the fist line should have been "...so true..." It got split. | | | |
mysdianait (20653)
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3 years ago
| | Here at present it is total confusion and conflicting ideas Rajib and not easy to live with or predict the future. The older generation trying to understand the youngsters. The immigrants from many other countries trying to settle in to European traditions but wanting their own here too, which in some cases are very conflicting. Not an easy situation and if a person has set ideas and is not open to change it can cause some very horrid situations sadly. | | | |
krajibg (4932)
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3 years ago
| | Hello Diana, there your version sounds much alarming. I do not understand why the immigrants try to have their share too I fail to enter into. Conflict is very normal when people hang themselves on a rope and want to free both hands. They must learn or respect the culture and value of the land where they never belonged to. Its too sad a matter. | | | |
mysdianait (20653)
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3 years ago
| | I agree that they should accept that they are in a different country and adapt to how the find things here just as we should do if we move elsewhere (I did many years ago when I moved). That is not the way it is every time sadly. | | | |
sanuanu (4141)
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3 years ago
| | Isn't there a saying: While in Rome, Do as roman does! | | | |
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krajibg (4932)
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3 years ago
| | Ungrateful lot I say. You know there are millions of illegal Bangladeshi migrants that when there is a Cricket Match between India and Pakistan, they cheer for Pakistan. Now just know and collapse. You live in a country that is deeding you besides allowing a roof over your head you are being loyal to an alien nation!!!!! | | | |
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sanuanu (4141)
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3 years ago
| | The refugees or migrated people are confused all the times. They didn't get anything from their own countries but they will always cheer for them. It is like a boy was thrown out from his house by their family members but he will still like to think good about them, after all they are their own blood relatives. Difficult to forget them but then they must also not forget that the place where they are living, he has some duties towards it too. As long as they are fulfiling their duties, I don't see any problems. | | | |
mysdianait (20653)
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3 years ago
| | When they are fulfilling their duties then they have every right to stay and become part of the country of course. It is those others that I have doubts about. | | | |
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| 10. myskysky (34)
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3 years ago
| | In my world,life can be described quiet but i like this peaceful feeling.We're calm but it dosen't mean we're impassive.We're making attempts to achieve our goals.Well,competition exists in every corner of my life.Fortunately,the tense atmosphere haven't went into an oppresive level.We should be ambitious but we can't be utilitarian. | | | | | | |
krajibg (4932)
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3 years ago
| | Hi, tension and competition would be there but effort should be to face them from within and I hope things would wear better shape soon. Thanks for the response. | | | |
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