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myLot reputation of 97/100. dragon54u (15681)   ranked 7 out of 1,197 in stay healthy 3 years ago

I'll say right now that I looked this up and there were no discussions on the swine flu. I'm sure when I post this, I'll see dozens! My apologies ahead of time! lol

This really should be in a "conspiracy" category. Because I don't believe that this strain is a naturally occurring mutation. Come on, 3 flu viruses merging? And in Mexico, right next to us? I smell a rat.

Does the swine flu scare you? Are you taking precautions to avoid getting it? I heard a doctor say that Tami-Flu is effective to treat it but there are some people dying from it. What steps will you take to avoid it? Do you think it's a biological attack?

 

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1. myLot reputation of 98/100. wildcat48 (383)   ranked 218 out of 1,197 in stay healthy   3 years ago

Hey dragon54u,have you ever watched the movie "The Stand "I myself think its something like what is going on now.


myLot reputation of 97/100. dragon54u (15681)   ranked 7 out of 1,197 in stay healthy  3 years ago

The Stand is one of the few movie adaptations that didn't disappoint me! That was a great movie, and I've read the book twice. Yes, it's possible that's what is going on and it is eerily similar, isn't it? Have you read "Cell", also by Stephen King? A signal through cell phones turns people into zombies with all the ensuing intrigue and mysterious plots. I remember thinking all through the book how possible it would be!

A lot of people would think you and I were crazy but I think your idea is valid. How else could 3 strains of flu join up like this, especially 3 who affect different species?


myLot reputation of 98/100. wildcat48 (383)   ranked 218 out of 1,197 in stay healthy  3 years ago

Well,it real did happen .They pick a town in the east and they try out some of their germ war fair out on them.How else do the know its works.I read all of kings books.


myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (12221)   ranked 1 out of 1,197 in stay healthy  3 years ago

Oh--just had to chime in here....LOL I have to admit I'm not a real big Stephen King fan but did read his "Cell" which creeped me out. Something like that in real life could be all too easy to happen in reality...just get the right frequencies of waves and transmit them via the cell phone system and bingo..instant zombies. One real reality is that countries like China and Russia are tapping in our electric grid system

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2. myLot reputation of 99/100. GardenGerty (35299)   3 years ago

No, I do not think it is a biological attack. Yes, there have been at least three discussions about this that I have seen since last night.happy My friends here keep me posted on the real world and I am so grateful. The discussions may be on the same topic, but they are each unique.Yours is unique. I do not think it is a problem. Viruses do mutate and merge, they are crafty creations, that adapt widely. That is why we cannot cure the common cold.ninjaYou will notice that people died from this in Mexico, but the sufferers recovered in the US, because we have better care. I will continue as I do, and I will wash my hands lots, and I will spray antiseptic sprays. I rinse my teeth with peroxide, and I think that helps kill germs. I use peroxide to clean things a lot.I carry hand sanitizer in my work vehicle. I will take my vitamins, get plenty of rest and sleep enough. I cannot avoid sick people, I take care of people, and if they are sick, I go to the doctor or hospital with them. I believe that is where people actually catch things.That is my opinion, however. That is just where sick people go.surrender I only have been sick once in about nine months, and it happened after I spent four hours sitting with someone at the hospital emergency room while her dad was admitted. It did not help that she reeked of cigarette smoke and strong cologne, both of which I am sensitive to.


myLot reputation of 97/100. dragon54u (15681)   ranked 7 out of 1,197 in stay healthy  3 years ago

I know our care is better here--it's good in Mexico, but only if you have the money to get it. I don't see how these three strains that affect 3 different species could combine so conveniently but I know stranger things have happened. It's just that we have a new prez and our borders are like sieves and it's just too convenient for it to be chance. However, I hope you are right!

Be careful about over protecting yourself, Gerty. If your body has nothing to fight, your immune system won't be up to it when you finally do get sick. It's tough when you're caring for others and don't want to take a chance of infecting them, but I really think we're generally too phobic about germs.

Thanks for making a couple of very good points!

I wonder why the search feature told me there was nothing found on the flu--they really should improve that dumb thing! blink


myLot reputation of 99/100. GardenGerty (35299)  3 years ago

I never find anything when I search for a discussion. I did not add that I am pretty resistant because I live in a dirty house.lol I have always been pretty healthy, unless I get very stressed. I walked in to work Monday morning and four of my nine clients were ill.A lot of it seems to stem from sinus and spring time allergies. It just weakens them then they get sick. I have been to the doctors offices and pharmacies quite a bit this week.

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3. myLot reputation of 98/100. muscles4me (11361)   3 years ago

I am not doing anything to avoid it. I think alot of these "SCARES" they talk about are nothing but a bunch of BS. Mexico huh???? Well close the borders....here we go again.


myLot reputation of 97/100. dragon54u (15681)   ranked 7 out of 1,197 in stay healthy  3 years ago

Janet's not going to close the borders. She wouldn't fix them when she was governor of Arizona (I lived there) and she won't close them now. She likes them as they are--swiss cheese!angry


myLot reputation of 98/100. muscles4me (11361)  3 years ago

Janets ast.....I can not stand her almost as bad as I can not stand Nancy. These friggen Democrates are killing us. I am so gad I am 60 bcause if I was 40 I would really be worried alot more.

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4. myLot reputation of 99/100. mentalward (6157)   ranked 101 out of 1,197 in stay healthy   3 years ago

I remember the swine flu epidemic back in the later 70's. Everybody was freaking out over it! The company I was working for actually had a nurse come in to give everyone vaccinations against it.

Luckily, I was out that day (in court, suing my uncle... he stole the money my father had left for me when he died and yes, I won thumbup) and missed getting the vaccine. When I got back to work the next day, half of the people there were out sick and the rest of them had extremely sore arms with huge red, swollen areas where they got the vaccination.

Only one gal in the entire office (besides me) was fine and that's because she didn't get the vaccine because she was VERY pregnant and didn't want anything to do with the vaccine. Smart gal!

I never got the swine flu, either. All that "to-do" about nothing!

I get a flu shot every year, just because I hurt so much as it is, I don't need to get the flu on top of it! Other than that, I don't worry about things like this.

I think, if our government, or maybe it's just the news media, wants us to be scared out of our wits all the time. Geez. We'll die from global warming, a massive meteor could hit the Earth at any time, nuclear war, and epidemics like the bird flu and now this, the newest swine flu.

I think it's entirely possible that this is a mutation. They happen all the time. Also, with doctors handing out antibiotics at every turn, it's no wonder we've become immune to some things, like the "super virus" which won't respond to traditional antibiotics.


myLot reputation of 97/100. dragon54u (15681)   ranked 7 out of 1,197 in stay healthy  3 years ago

You're right about our immune systems being compromised, it's because of all the antibiotics and our general phobia of germs--everyone is manic to protect themselves against everything.

It might be a scare. Yes, the media likes to keep us scared because that gets them viewers and that means advertising money. If it bleeds, it leads and if it frightens they'll enlighten! It's all about money.

I've never had a flu shot, never will. That's a whole 'nother subject but I'm almost paranoid about them.


myLot reputation of 99/100. GardenGerty (35299)  3 years ago

The early flu shots did tend to make people sick, but the newer ones do not.I remember that mess with the first swine flu. The mutations between specie oriented viruses remind me of cousins marrying each other. The offspring either will have lots of defects or they will be geniuses, you never can tell. They even have a nasal spray that is effective. I had a pharmacist tell me once that taking zinc will inhibit the mutation of viruses in your body, it will block the dna receptors in your cells that tend to make you catch the flu. He said he would never become wealthy as a pharmacist because he told people the truth about vitamins, they help as well or better than prescriptions and cost less. Viruses are not affected at all by antibiotics, but the excess antibiotics allow the bacteria to attack us once the viruses have done their damage. I still would rather have a bacterial infection than a viral, because we can treat them with lots of things.


myLot reputation of 99/100. mentalward (6157)   ranked 101 out of 1,197 in stay healthy  3 years ago

There was a really nasty flu bug going around last year. I had gotten a flu shot, but my son, who works at WalMart and is around people all the time, did not. He got the flu. Not only did he get it, but I had to take him to the hospital ER because he was so dehydrated from things flying out both ends that he could barely move! He was in the hospital maybe 10 hours while they rehydrated him intravenously. Not getting that flu shot cost him $850.00!

I've never had a bad reaction to any flu shot I've received. Only once did I get a slight headache that lasted a couple of days after the shot. Other than that, I felt perfectly fine with them and have never had the flu since I started getting the shots (assuming I get them early enough).

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5. myLot reputation of 97/100. peavey (7320)   ranked 100 out of 1,197 in stay healthy   3 years ago

I'm not really scared of it. I read that it hasn't killed the old, infirm people or infants. That sounds like the bird flu of 1918. It wasn't the flu itself that killed as much as it was the body's defense of it (fever, congestion, etc). But it's too early to tell whether it's really going to be a problem, or something that sweeps through and is gone, with few deaths. Our living situation is different here from Mexico besides the level of health care and response time, so at this point, no, I'm not afraid.


myLot reputation of 97/100. dragon54u (15681)   ranked 7 out of 1,197 in stay healthy  3 years ago

I did hear that Tami-Flu works on it. The thing is, it's affecting young healthy people more than anything and that is really strange. The WHO has mobilized a committee to study the effects and they say it's possible it could turn into a pandemic. I'm not worried except for my sons, who are going to college in Arizona which is a border state overflowing with illegals from Mexico. sad


myLot reputation of 97/100. peavey (7320)   ranked 100 out of 1,197 in stay healthy  3 years ago

"it's affecting young healthy people more than anything and that is really strange"

That's exactly what I mean. Healthy people's bodies react vigorously to the virus, and that's what causes trouble. It was the same with the 1918 bird flu that killed so many.

But it's yet to be seen whether this will be as serious as the media makes it out to be. They always have to have something to scare people with.

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6. angelbabyliz (64)   ranked 699 out of 1,197 in stay healthy   3 years ago

I agree with you on the conspiracy theory of it. When I first heard it, I thought, "There goes the government again".


myLot reputation of 97/100. dragon54u (15681)   ranked 7 out of 1,197 in stay healthy  3 years ago

But which government? I can't discount that it may be occurring naturally but it was so sudden and spread so fast that I'm suspicious--I just don't know who to direct my suspicions to!

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7. myLot reputation of 82/100. LaSenyoraSilis (234)   ranked 712 out of 1,197 in stay healthy   3 years ago

I hope that I do not come across as being "uppity" (because that is not my intention), but no, it does not scare me because I do not eat swine. The meat from a pig is not a part of my diet. :-) I was raised "swine free" and only eat fish, chicken, and beef. By the way, do you know what causes swine flu? This seems like a really serious outbreak. :-)


myLot reputation of 97/100. dragon54u (15681)   ranked 7 out of 1,197 in stay healthy  3 years ago

Swine flu is passed back and forth between pigs all year and it doesn't have much effect on them. Their "owners" catch it, though, and up till now the only way to get the swine flu was from direct exposure to the pigs. Now it's combined with the bird and human flu and humans are spreading it. Very strange.

You don't sound uppity when you say you don't eat swine. Lots of people don't. The Old Testament directed the Jews to avoid cloven-hoofed beasts and there was a good reason for that--pork doesn't keep well and if it sits out even a short time you can get diseases that will kill you, especially back then.

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8. myLot reputation of 81/100. Archie0 (3248)   ranked 361 out of 1,197 in stay healthy   3 years ago

Yes today only i heard of swine flu thing. but i am not much worried as i dont eat pork. i have never tasted it and dont think i will even taste it ever. I am just a fan of chicken i just love it yes i was a bit worried in between when it came to bird flu sometimes back, but yes this swine flu is obviously i have heard for the first time, hope everyone out here take extra care before cooking them.


myLot reputation of 97/100. dragon54u (15681)   ranked 7 out of 1,197 in stay healthy  3 years ago

You don't get it from eating pork. It is passed from pigs to their human keepers and not by the meat or other humans. But this strain has combined with bird flu and human so that people infect one another. You can get it by walking down the street. That is what is so strange about it.

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9. myLot reputation of 98/100. moneymommy (1824)   ranked 314 out of 1,197 in stay healthy   3 years ago

Yes its pretty scary. I think I may have had it in the 70s and ended up with pnemonia for a month. I was just a kid then and I was always told I had the swine flu.


myLot reputation of 97/100. dragon54u (15681)   ranked 7 out of 1,197 in stay healthy  3 years ago

So you were around pigs back then? Up till now humans could only get it from pigs. Now that it's combined with bird and human flu, we're passing it around from person to person and the pigs aren't needed to spread it.

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10. myLot reputation of 56/100. MsBoomBoom (110)   ranked 702 out of 1,197 in stay healthy   3 years ago

I thought only pigs got swine flu or those that ate pork but after doing a little research I've discovered that humans can be affected too. I live on the east coast of the united states so it's not something too many are worried about. I'm already a bit of a fanatic when it comes to washing my hands and things of nature due to other outbreaks around here. I will continue doing what I have been to protect myself along with going 'green' - my daughter suffers from terrible allergies which I know is linked to some environmental factor like most strains and the like. I'm hoping this 'green' thing will work and keep the both of us happy. For some reason, the swine flu is making me think of mad cow disease...hmm I'll have to do a bit more reading on this for sure.


myLot reputation of 97/100. dragon54u (15681)   ranked 7 out of 1,197 in stay healthy  3 years ago

Humans get it from live pigs, not from eating pork-at least not from what I've read. Humans couldn't spread it until now, only pigs could, but that has changed. There are cases in New York state now. Tami-Flu will work in the first 48 hours.

Sorry about your daughter's allergies, I know it is miserable. If not for that I'd tell you to quit avoiding all germs and let your body's immune system get strong. People who avoid all contaminations compromise their immune systems and weaken it since it has nothing to fight. But with your daughter's allergies, I can understand your caution.


myLot reputation of 56/100. MsBoomBoom (110)   ranked 702 out of 1,197 in stay healthy  3 years ago

Since reading your post, I'm seeing all kinds of news on the swine flu now!!I had no idea..I've just read gov't officials are preparing for this as if it were a serious hurricane. This is alarming..I've got to do some more digging on this..

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